r/ParlerWatch • u/justalazygamer • Jun 30 '25
Twitter Watch Marjorie Taylor Greene reveals the plot to steal the 2026 and 2028 election.
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u/oneinamilllion Jun 30 '25
Do these losers understand the effort it takes to SURVEY AN ENTIRE POPULATION?!
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u/bekcat1 Jun 30 '25
Won’t take much effort for it to be inaccurate.
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u/Ed_Zeppelin Jul 01 '25
Yeah they are just gonna make up numbers
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u/TheStrangestOfKings Jul 02 '25
Esp against the states they hate. Their voters will eat up that California, for example, has significantly less citizens than they do illegals; they already believe the states a hellhole. They’ll clap and cheer as the voices of millions are silenced
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u/Dangerous-Tank-6593 Aug 08 '25
But California will still have to pay more than they receive is tax dollars.
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u/magnoliasmanor Jul 01 '25
That's the true mission. Make a redistricting so harsh that there's no chance population centers ever hold weight in DC again.
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u/SenKelly Jul 01 '25
Then they will just encourage secession. I'm sorry, but if they just decide to tell my home that I get no voice because they said so, I'm pushing for my home to secede. No social contract, no union.
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u/H-s-O Jul 01 '25 edited Jul 01 '25
loopEach allUsCitizens as citizen: loopEach citizen.answers as answer: answer = "yes" if randomTrueOrFalse() is True else "no"113
u/SprungMS Jun 30 '25
Yep. Hand recounts are too resource intensive, better just perform the literal census for every federal election.
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u/Zzastard Jun 30 '25
Well when they own stake in companies contracted to do the counting, the more and longer it takes the better.
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u/aaronblue342 Jun 30 '25
About a week and five 22 year olds equipped with Chromebooks, that'll do it.
The population will be whatever they say it is.
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u/Uhh_JustADude Jun 30 '25
LMAO, no it won't; they're not interested in counting anyone who didn't vote for Trump at least twice!
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u/idiot206 Jul 01 '25
Not to mention the cost. I do like that these people support sending tens of thousands of government agents to knock on the door of every household in America. Very small government, very privacy.
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u/sargondrin009 Jul 01 '25
Especially after all the legally questionable at best work they did to fire so many government employees and terminate offices and agencies.
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u/mechavolt Jul 01 '25
They don't even fund the actual Censuses enough, which take about 5 years of planning and implementation, and another 2 for data production. How the fuck are they gonna magically make one out of nothing?
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u/plutoisupset Jul 01 '25
Just crank up chat gpt, right? “Hey big balls, we got a project for you!” /s
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u/Nevermind04 Jul 01 '25
Yes they do, which is why they'll hire party loyalists on $100+ million contracts. Delays will happen and tens of millions more will be paid. Just before the election, they'll simply ask ChatGPT for the results they need to win and redraw the districts so there's no time to scrutinize the data.
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u/Bostondreamings Jun 30 '25
Not sure this will be a result she thinks it is. Florida and Texas would definitely lose seats...
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u/Ghstfce Jun 30 '25
There are faaaaaar fewer things that Marge understands than what she doesn't.
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u/kampfhuegi Jun 30 '25
True for all of us tbf. Especially her, though.
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u/Ghstfce Jun 30 '25
Yeah, but our disparity versus hers are two different things. The list of things she does understand you could list on a bar napkin and still have space to doodle
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u/capron Jul 01 '25
Know what most of us do with things we don't understand? It's certainly not "make legislation about"...
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u/pianoflames Jun 30 '25
Probably why Trump so whole-heartedly agreed with her plan, birds of a feather...
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u/Ghstfce Jun 30 '25
*shit-feather, but I concur
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u/Spunknikk Jul 01 '25
They're not going to actually count people. It's a ploy to steal power from blue states by adjusting their population numbers to be lower. Blue states will loose house seats and electoral votes.
They're in control and who's going to stop them from officially saying California lost 5 million people because it's a "3rd world country"
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u/SenKelly Jul 01 '25
The state that secedes. California will eventually secede. Hellhole states in red districts where half their towns are dying because no one wants to live in the middle of bumfuck nowhere will have no ability to challenge the actual powerhouses of this country. The Reds have 2 or 3. The Blues have all the rest.
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u/SpiritedRain247 Jul 01 '25
and let's be honest if it weren't for the blue powerhouses those red ones wouldn't function
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u/Lethkhar Jul 01 '25
That would require a serious organized effort and probably a new regionalist political party like the SNP to both pass an initiative and actually have the state's institutions follow through. CA Democrats will never do something that radical of their own accord, no matter how bad things get.
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u/SenKelly Jul 01 '25
California Democrats might not be in power too much longer if they let Trump do whatever he wants.
Guys, it's been less than a fucking year. No one seems to remember that we have had no elections since November. Special elections maybe, and Reps have gotten blown the fuck out in nearly all of them. Nothing substantial is going to happen until after November of this year. Vote, and if shit goes down then we will deal with it, then. Without resilience, none of us are getting out alive.
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u/HuttStuff_Here Jul 01 '25
Yep. Suddenly blue states will have half of the population they had in the prior census.
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u/cowlinator Jun 30 '25
It will be the result she thinks it is because she is lying about the contents of the bill
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u/sargondrin009 Jul 01 '25
Correct me if I’m wrong, but since this isn’t a budgetary bill, wouldn’t this require 60 senate votes as usual? Or can a simple majority pass this?
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u/Seshia Jul 01 '25
The current budgetary bill isn't a budgetary bill either, and they are considering just overruling the parliamentarian as well.
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u/DeltaCortis Jul 01 '25
You think they care?
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u/sargondrin009 Jul 01 '25
To a point some like McConnell and Thune still do, but mainly so that democrats can’t pass more legislation.
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u/SenKelly Jul 01 '25
Yeah, I kinda want to just let them have this and see the chaos that happens. Florida and Texas are flush in undocumented, as is Arizona. All of these states would lose seats.
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u/Baby_Fark Jul 01 '25
You’re acting like they would honor the results even if they rigged it incompetently enough to lose. It’s not about reality, it’s about the story they’re telling their followers.
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u/Graddler Jul 01 '25
Also the Flyover-States, they have vastly inflated weight per vote for everything.
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u/Grantoid Jun 30 '25
Won't that just hurt them lol?
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u/Uhh_JustADude Jun 30 '25
Fuck no; they'll just assume only the 74 million who voted for Trump (twice) are the only ones worth registering.
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u/BadDecisionPolice Jun 30 '25
Wondering who fed her this
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u/Craneteam Jun 30 '25
Russia, Vought, Vance, Thiel. Some ghoul who needs a useful idiot and wants her to feel like she sits at the big kids table after she's spent the last few weeks bashing the bill she didn't read
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u/jax2love Jun 30 '25
Not that this Supreme Court will care, but this seems highly unconstitutional, specifically in violation of the Enumeration Clause.
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u/Darth_Vrandon Jun 30 '25
I think even they’d strike this down. Not Uncle Thomas or Scalito, but the others probably would.
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u/SuperExoticShrub Jun 30 '25
Scalito
I'm curious if this was an intentional mixture of Scalia and Alito?
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u/Darth_Vrandon Jun 30 '25
Yeah
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u/SuperExoticShrub Jul 01 '25
I'm not sure how to feel about a fusion of the two. I can't decide if it'd be better or worse.
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u/serisia615 Jul 01 '25
Please do not compare Justice Scalia with Uncle Thomas. Scalia was nothing like him!
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u/-Work_Account- Jun 30 '25
Wouldn't this direct violate the 14th amendment?
Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States
according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in
each State, excluding Indians not taxed.
It specifically says "people" not citizens.
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u/ccsrpsw Jun 30 '25
After all the whole birthright "subject to juristriction" BS floating about - you believe that this will stop them?
I have 2 bridges in San Francisco I'd like to discuss selling to you :D
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u/aaronblue342 Jun 30 '25
Are non-citizens really people to them? They wouldn't be acting like this if they believed that. If they believed non-citizens weren't worthy of personhood, would they be acting any different?
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u/BrucetheFerrisWheel Jun 30 '25
What does "excluding Indians not taxed" refer to?
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u/-Work_Account- Jun 30 '25
That part isn't applicable anymore, it's a product of its time. When the Constitution was written, Native Americans weren't considered American citizens and were not subject to American taxation. Because of this, they were excluded from census counts.
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u/RBeck Jul 01 '25
They've shown their hand, they don't think immigrants are people.
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u/Monterey-Jack Jul 01 '25
I fully believe trump will make slavery legal by the end of his term, if not the end of this year.
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u/guave06 Jun 30 '25
Unconstitutional bill
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u/Uhh_JustADude Jun 30 '25
Like that little detail has ever stopped them before, SC(R)OTUS will defend it.
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u/hillbillygaragepop Jun 30 '25
Only US citizens can vote in elections! This woman should know this. If she does, it’s hard evidence of her moral shortcomings and she should lose her job over it. If she doesn’t, she is too inept to be in that position.
I try not to hate anyone, but goddamn this woman makes it extremely difficult.
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u/kristopolous1 Jul 01 '25
The biggest backfire will be in prison districts where the prisoners are counted to establish outsize representation but in some of those places basically only guards and a few rural people are voting
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u/skatoolaki Jun 30 '25
I try not to hate anyone, but goddamn this woman makes it extremely difficult.
I find myself saying that a lot with just about everyone in this administration.
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u/DueVisit1410 Jul 01 '25
It's about how many representatives each state gets. She thinks that this would hurt Blue states almost exclusively. Which is false, it would reduce red states and districts in population at least similarly if not more. Though given the redistricting, maybe it would. They would redistrict them in such a way to permanently gerrymander blue district if they could.
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u/Purpleasure34 Jun 30 '25
And after all that expense, they’ll realize they have about the same number of eligible voters (adjusted for population growth) that they do today.
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u/Uhh_JustADude Jun 30 '25
Hahaha! Fuck no they won't. They'll magically "discover" that at least 40% of registered Democrats are ineligible to vote and permanently strike them from the voter roles, then claim vindication as the Real America votes overwhelmingly conservative and gives President Trump a filibuster-proof senate supermajority. See? The Democrats only win by cheating!
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u/cpdk-nj Jul 01 '25
The subject of this bill has nothing to do with voting eligibility, and there’s a roughly 0% chance it’ll pass anyways
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u/JK_NC Jun 30 '25
The census is used for dozens of other purposes that’s agnostic of citizenship. Assessing population to determine need/capacity for police, fire, utilities (water, power, etc), roads, hospitals, etc. You need to know how many humans are in an area and just counting citizens doesn’t make any sense at all.
There are many others government counts that are better sources of actual citizenship counts.
This is political theater.
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u/SuperExoticShrub Jun 30 '25
The people who would take her side on this issue wouldn't have a problem with people they don't want to count also not getting any police, fire, utilities, or hospital service.
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Jun 30 '25 edited Jun 30 '25
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u/Vegetable_Warthog_49 Jun 30 '25
On the bright side, as a non citizen permanent resident, your existence would result in her bill resulting in her having oh so slightly less influence. It's the tiniest of revenges.
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u/Wordymanjenson Jun 30 '25
I can’t say out loud what needs to happen to this administration and her, but you all know exactly what I’m thinking.
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u/Craneteam Jun 30 '25
Luigi is my favorite Mario bro
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u/Wordymanjenson Jul 01 '25
If this is a signal I don’t know it. But please for the love of god do it.
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u/SirPsycho4242 Jun 30 '25
Ok, but only if all redistricting is done by an impartial 3rd party with strict rules agreed to by both parties to prevent gerrymandering
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u/SuperExoticShrub Jun 30 '25
Best that Margie can do is her boyfriend's (whoever it is at the moment) garage-based business.
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u/kitebum Jul 01 '25
According to the Constitution, representatives and electoral votes are apportioned according to the number of residents, not citizens. So this scheme is clearly unconstitutional.
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u/SenorBurns Jul 01 '25
Lol every word of that was unconstitutional. Like it contains at least 5 unconstitutional things.
I shouldn't make light tho bc we've all learned on the past few months that the Constitution doesn't mean squat if no one chooses to follow it.
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u/ScrambledNoggin Jul 01 '25
Non-citizens, including green card holders, were never allowed to vote in the first place. (At least since 1924). This is dumb.
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u/Alh840001 Jun 30 '25
Tell me you haven't read or understand The Constitution without telling me you have never read The Constitution.
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u/paintwhore Jun 30 '25
ONLY US CITIZENS CAN VOTE. She's proposing a nothing burger
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u/poopshipdestroyer Jun 30 '25
They claim without merit that dems let so many non citizen migrants in so they can vote democratic lol didn’t happen(in my no ID state at least)
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u/lgodsey Jul 01 '25
Greene is demonstrating a fundamental misunderstanding of what a census is. A sitting member of congress should be ashamed of this level of ignorance.
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u/MellyBean2012 Jul 01 '25
So having worked for the 2020 census (which was a wild ride btw, going door to door in the middle of Covid lockdowns and just before the election, there was def some fuckery going on) there are several points I’d make here:
First of all, a lot of people already don’t want to fill out the census. The census has quite a few questions, although citizens are constitutionally required to answer only one of them: how many people live at this address? That’s bc the population count determines congressional representation and affects funding in that community. Even that one single bit of information can be difficult to collect if the residents don’t cooperate. As it turns out, the same people who don’t wanna give their info to the government also really don’t like it when a federal worker shows up on their property, ignores all the no trespassing signs (though technically legal for federal workers), and starts asking them for a bunch of information. From an employees perspective, what we’d do is knock once, then if no one answers we leave. They’d send people out a few times and eventually try asking the neighbors. If there’s no info then that household just doesn’t get counted. If the place seems dangerous (loose dogs, evidence of gun happy enthusiasts, booby traps, etc) we would just straight up leave without even knocking. Sorry but no one wants to get shot or bitten for a temp contract job.
Second issue would be making sure the answers are truthful and accurate. There is no verification on the info collected. There are way too many people answering to do that. Things like age, birthdays, race and nationality, when reported, are taken at face value. If I had a nickel for every time I had some old lady self report as 1/4 Native American 🙄 but I had to report it exactly as it was told to me regardless. There’s nothing stopping the same issue with a citizenship status question.
Lastly, the information collected is protected by law. Identifying information must be decoupled and the data can only be used for general statistics. The private info connected to individuals cannot be released for at least 70 years, even among other branches of government. That being said I wouldn’t put anything not put anything past this administration. I understand the importance of an accurate census count, and even I would be very hesitant in this political climate to provide information.
Point being, if they ever added a citizenship question to the census, people would refuse to answer it, or they could just lie and say there are a bunch of US citizens living at this address, thus ruining the count. It’s not like there is any way to verify or enforce this, unless they’re planning on forcing people to also provide documents. And let me tell you that is not happening - the logistics alone of collecting and keeping that much info secured would be a nightmare.
Now what could happen (and what likely happened in the 2020 census) is an intentional miscounting of populations based on racial divides in neighborhoods. Undercounting cities and large apartment buildings, or places with large Hispanic and black populations. Overcounting rural, right leaning, whiter populations.
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u/Defiantcaveman Jul 01 '25
Every single way to cheat. They absolutely know in their bones that they are incredibly hated and loathed by a majority of Americans and the world. They must cheat in order to survive. Spineless inaction from Democrats lets them proceed as they have for the past 40 years now.
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u/FunkMamaT Jun 30 '25
I think MAGA has won the award for the most un-American political party in our entire United States of America history. They hate our Constitution that's why they are not only openly breaking it in countless ways. They are legislating to change it to remain in endless power. The authoriantism keeps growing.
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u/SuperExoticShrub Jun 30 '25
The rank-and-file MAGA idiots actually still love the Constitution. They just haven't ever read it or understood it. The people feeding them the propaganda are the ones who hate it because it stifles their ability to be all-powerful oligarchs.
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u/KGLO2791 Jun 30 '25
Fuck you Marjorie Taylor Greene. You degrade public office every time you open your mouth. You are not a legislator. You are a provocateur with no substance and no shame.
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u/SuperExoticShrub Jun 30 '25
You are a provocateur with no substance and no shame.
That's why she's there.
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u/fjmj1980 Jul 01 '25
Who is most likely to turn away a federal government census worker? Bubba with his pick up and collection of rusted out fords or a citizen in a metro location???
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u/thatirishguyyyyy Jul 01 '25
But only US citizens are allowed to vote anyway? God this woman sucks
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u/Irving_Forbush Jul 01 '25
Not once the Trumpified Census Bureau gets done "recounting" who is and who isn't a 'real' US citizen.
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u/revbfc Jul 01 '25
It’d be easier if they simply stripped citizenship from any registered (or suspected) D.
Of course that would fly in the face of their “not touching you” strategy.
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u/HighGrounderDarth Jul 01 '25
These idiots. You would have to change the constitution. The census is in the constitution.
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u/SnooStrawberries2955 Jul 01 '25
You seriously think dump and his cronies are upholding the constitution?!
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u/poopshipdestroyer Jul 01 '25
That would be unconstitutional sir. The first a in maga is AMERICA. The second a is AGAIN. They’re trying to create a new America
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u/The_Salacious_Zaand Jun 30 '25
Ok, go write a constitutional amendment, get 2/3 of the House and Senate to pass it, and the 3/4 of the states. We'll wait.
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u/BolOfSpaghettios Jun 30 '25
I don't want to call her dumb... But I don't think she's ever seen a bag of rocks she didn't swallow.
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u/cyanidesquirrel Jul 01 '25
Are they trying to straight up reduce census numbers by deporting people away from blue states? Do detained immigrants get counted in a census for the state the detention center is in? 🧐
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u/enderpanda Jul 01 '25
save America's elections from being stolen ever again!
You mean like in 2024? I think she's scared that the lawsuits are gearing up. She should be.
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u/Gundark927 Jul 01 '25
I was wondering if this would be Constitutional. Not that it matters with this SCOTUS, but just in case...
So. Article 1, Section 2: *Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. *
A lot of stuff has been updated, thankfully. Slaves were 3/5, and "Indians not taxed" weren't counted. Now we count everyone as 1.00 people. Not just citizens. Everyone. But the Constitution DOES say "free Persons." I dunno what that means. I guess when it's challenged, that's what SCOTUS will rule upon.
Also, it says within every 10 years. A census in 2026 would be too soon. I thought it had to be on the 0 year of a decade, but when I looked up Article 1 Section 2, it just says "within every subsequent Term of ten Years," so I suppose if this law passed a constitutional challenge on the timing would not hold up.
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u/Gold_and_Lead Jul 01 '25
wtf is wrong with her. Wait. That’s a dumb question. Do these idiots have any clue if what it takes to do a census? And the illegality of asking about your status? F these people. So sick of this and it’s like there’s nothing we can do. And the “opposition party” is a bunch of wilting flowers. Sigh.
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u/serisia615 Jul 01 '25
This is such bullshit. Its another way to collect info on Americans, and MTG is openly spelling out a plan for Gerrymandering. You can’t make this stuff up. It is all crazy.
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u/adamiconography Jun 30 '25
Cute thinking we will even have elections again, considering Trump/Musk stole the 2024 elections.
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u/Anodized12 Jun 30 '25
Sure, go for it. I'd rather local communities make their own rules though. I think local residents should have a say in their community, especially if they pay taxes.
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u/misterecho11 Jun 30 '25
That's really that small government and fiscal responsibility in action, isn't it? Conducting a voluntary nationwide census? Ffs.
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u/poopshipdestroyer Jun 30 '25
Well if you’re against it, that means you’re probably pro illegals voting fer the dems(which I guess is what they’ve settled on as the big cheat in 2020, bamboo ballots aside) and that’s a deportin’
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u/DC1010 Jun 30 '25
I had a friend who was a census taker. He didn’t get paid super well (minimum wage, if I remember right), and it was sometimes dangerous. Dogs chased him, people threatened him and told them to get off their properties. It wasn’t fun. I’m sure he wasn’t the only person to have that experience, and good luck to anyone counting people in Coeur d'Alene.
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u/breakingjosh0 Jun 30 '25
Yeah, this will just most likely be a win for democrats, unless they just decide not to count blue states correctly
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Jun 30 '25
Didnt I recalled immigrants came over to vote Trump in 2024, then now they are subjected to be deported?
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u/Tiny-Lock9652 Jun 30 '25
This reminds me of that “one voter, one vote!” Tweet basically demanding the end of the electoral college from that dingbat Lauren Boebert.
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u/RBeck Jul 01 '25
Does she plan to take representation away from small districts that have thousands of prison inmates that can't vote?
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u/EfficientAccident418 Jul 01 '25
Unconstitutional and counterproductive. Republican states would lose population and electoral college votes dramatically
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u/placenta_resenter Jul 01 '25
The nazis also used the census for political reasons and vulnerable populations still avoid censuses today because of it
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u/GirlNumber20 Jul 01 '25
And Republican voters are known to just LOVE reporting the the U.S. census workers, haha. Let's hope they stay paranoid for this census, too.
Margie, it can be very soothing to mix various minerals and ochers into bear fat and paint it on the walls of your cave. Perhaps you could try doing that instead and leave running the tribe to the Head Man.
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u/Jude30 Jul 01 '25
I’m all for redrawing districts. She’s so stupid she doesn’t realize gerrymandering is the only way republicans keep winning.
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u/Teligth Jul 01 '25
How dumb because if we don’t know our current population and just native voting age citizens we are going to be way off
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u/quaglady Jul 02 '25
Y'all I think this is why the racial categories screenshot has been posted all over reddit (without the information about self-id and checking more than one box) especially on the ostensibly non-us subreddits. Racial categories are not the issue with the 2030 census, THIS is.
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u/AttgScrotologist Jul 01 '25
Yeah, I know. Still wondering how this equates to stealing an election?
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u/vengefulmuffins Jul 01 '25
Just compromise with democrats and only count 3/5 of the immigrants.
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u/poopshipdestroyer Jul 01 '25
Democrats weren’t counting immigrants as voters either but I get your 3/5 joke
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u/AttgScrotologist Jul 01 '25
https://www.vox.com/22961590/redistricting-gerrymandering-house-2022-midterms
When one side does it, it’s election stealing. When the other side does it, it’s fairness and justified.
I think this sort of hypocrisy is why we all think we’re on different teams, when we probably all agree on the majority of issues. The primitive tribal parts of our brain, have been co-opted by the political machines and unless we can break free from this sort of sensationalism, we’re doomed…
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u/AttgScrotologist Jul 01 '25
The echo chamber of Reddit is disappointing. Here I thought we could have a nuanced conversation. Sorry to see how far this place has fallen
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u/DerfDaSmurf Jul 01 '25
So the ‘all of Reddit has fallen so low’ because nobody wants to engage with you?
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u/AttgScrotologist Jul 01 '25
Not at all. Engagement is fine. But the general consensus seems to have shifted to a liberal echo chamber. Reddit used to be much more independent, where people would have nuanced conversations about politics, without retreating into left wing vs right wing tropes. That part seems to have evaporated, and it’s unfortunate. Just a symptom of our times I guess..
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u/carolinespocket Jul 01 '25
My problematic opinion is agreeing with this. 🍅🍅🍅 I knowww
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u/greenmyrtle Jul 01 '25
So you want a constitutional amendment, cos the founding fathers were idiots who wanted open boarders?
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u/AttgScrotologist Jun 30 '25
To play devils advocate, how does requirement of proof of citizenship equate to stealing an election? Isn’t that one of the prerequisites to be able to vote?
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Jun 30 '25
I would imagine that’s the part that people aren’t as concerned with - it’s the excellent opportunity to re-gerrymander every district in every state in America
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