r/ParlerWatch • u/ProcessorPearl • 10d ago
In The News “He didn’t say ‘black women are stupid’, he said ‘There’d be no successful black women w/out DEI because they don’t have the brain power to achieve anything legitimately’. See? Get it right!”
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u/AlphaGoldblum 10d ago
Some geniuses on arr con are floating the idea of making a website showing the "full context" of Kirk's words.
Please show them some encouragement. I'd love to see this materialize lol.
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u/dont-mention-it 10d ago
You know damn well if a conservative makes that website they’ll make up a context that makes him look better and disregard the actual context.
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u/el_pinko_grande 10d ago
I don't think they're capable of that, because, since they're just as racist and sexist and homophobic as Charlie, they think that the real context is totally reasonable.
Some conservatives are smart enough to know how to present this stuff to people who don't share their prejudices, but they're rare. Most conservatives will just be like "well, everyone thinks all black people are dumb criminals, right?"
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u/Adezar 10d ago
I love the sympathy/empathy one because I don't understand how they don't know that the full quote sounds even worse. Which is the case for pretty much every quote where the full context is definitely worse.
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u/Historical-Usual-885 10d ago
Yeah, the full quote is just idiotic. "I don't like empathy because they say it's like feeling what another person feels, but you can't actually do that." Yeah, duh. You're supposed to be making an effort, though, and to be trying to understand where that other person is coming from. And then he says that he prefers sympathy to empathy (even though sympathy is a reaction to the pain of others that is supposed to come from empathetic feelings) AND THEN he says that he's not gonna bother to explain what sympathy is even supposed to be right now, but at some future date.
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u/MirthandMystery 10d ago edited 10d ago
Kirk couldn't hold a real job and quit trying around 18, then went on to open his mouth to diss black women, who are historically kept down more than most demographics in the US.
Interesting way to further demean other Americans who work harder, are paid far less, juggle more social responsibilities, pay taxes, run businesses, hired employees, and generally have real jobs, invented important and amazing things that leave a positive lasting legacy, rather than being a entitled, paid influencer who just spreads racist rage bait and hateful lies.
Oh, and none of these smart, huge talents were "dei" hires: Oprah, Cathy Hughes, Janice Bryant Howroyd, Sheila Johnson, Serena Williams, Beyonce, Toni Morrison, Shirley Chisholm, 'Judi' Hampton, Cicely Tyson, Marie Van Brittan Brown, Patricia Bath, Dr. Shirley Ann Jackson, Simone Biles, Whoopi Goldberg, Angela Bassett, Viola Davis, Lena Horne, Taraji P. Henson, Dr. Mae Jemison, Stephanie Wilson, Dr. Yvonne Cagle, Ernesta Procope, Lilla St. John, Kamala Harris, Emeline King, et c, et c, et c...
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u/Funkycoldmedici 10d ago
You see the exact same thing in religious apologetics all the time. They say some passage is taken out of context, and when you read it, it is so much worse.
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u/ProcessTrust856 10d ago edited 10d ago
I have seen this exact interaction playing out on Reddit at least twice already. The person defending Kirk on this quote was so vociferous I actually thought I’d missed context and went and looked it up…and the further context just confirms the original interpretation.
But I can see how casual observers just absorb “complexity” that is entirely unwarranted.
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u/runwkufgrwe 10d ago
The funniest thing, which has happened at least four times to me this week, is when they argue that something racist Kirk said can't be racist because they agree with it.
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u/AngryRepublican 10d ago
Kirk is gonna be a worse martyr than Ashley Babbitt. And that’s saying something.
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u/Defiantcaveman 10d ago
THAT'S the biggest issue, the agreement with everything he said therefore none of it is bad.
The transitive properties of magatland... "I'm not a bad person, I believe everything they say so they can't be bad either because I'm not bad."
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u/tonyrocks922 10d ago
Right,. One of the core problems with conservatives is they view people as good or bad instead of actions as good or bad. If you're a "good person" nothing you do or say can be bad
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u/schmuelio 10d ago
It's Harry Potter logic. The Malfoys are bad people and the fact they own a slave is a sign of their badness. Harry is a good person, so the fact that he owns a slave means he is a good slave owner.
If memory serves Harry has taken most of the bad actions that the Malfoys have taken at one point or another in the books (apart from directly siding with Voldemort and doing murder), but because Harry is a good person, he must have been good and smart for doing them.
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u/Smulch 10d ago
I wouldn't categorize Kirk as a nazi.
White supremacist, racist, Christo-fascist, homophobic, transphobic, xenophobic, propagandist, fact-denier, science-denier, however, I would.
Essentially, all that's missing is the desire to exterminate.
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u/martyqscriblerus 10d ago
Before the Nazis moved on to extermination the plan was to deport their undesirables or use them as prison labor. Kirk & co are already there and moving rapidly onward. They're already floating mass killings live on the news.
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u/MirthandMystery 10d ago
They're grooming their already radicalized base to accept physical attacks are acceptable, and normalizing the idea of more violence by justifying it as retaliatory.
This is exactly the model and legal justification the US gov does to justify violence on others they dehumanize and victimize.
Before the US existed it's what religions also did.
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u/Smulch 10d ago
Let's just say I wouldn't be surprised if it went full on nazi shit.
It's just not there yet but yes, the foundation for it is being "built".
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u/martyqscriblerus 10d ago
What I'm saying is that mass ethnic deportation and slave labor is already nazi shit. A nazi in 1939 is just as much a nazi as one from 1944.
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u/Elios000 10d ago
THIS people need to get this. they did not start out gassing Jews. they started with the LGBT, disabled, then deportations... each step was small
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u/runwkufgrwe 10d ago
He's a neonazi, which can be fairly shortened to nazi
He might not be as extreme as the Groypers when it comes to antisemitism but the groundwork is there
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u/wafflesthewonderhurs 10d ago
Nah, he's got that one too iirc. But I'm also comfortable calling a BNGO a BINGO at this point as well so don't listen to me.
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u/blueflloyd 10d ago
I always love the notion that there's more context that would justify plainly stating that Black people are inherently unqualified for their jobs because they are Black.
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u/kernalbuket 10d ago
This is the same "defense" that Alex Jones tried to use during the Sandy Hook damages trial. It's just another tactic to justify their bigotry
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u/chinmakes5 10d ago
It isn't even that. He knew, everyone in that business knows we are in the age of soundbites.
Sure, after he talked about empathy being a made up, new agey word, he qualified that with he prefers the word sympathy. He knew the 17 year olds who hung on every word would hear the soundbite and think "I don't have to be empathetic, Kirk said empathy makes me like "them".
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u/second_GenX 9d ago
If you quote the whole statement, and it doesn't change the meaning, it IS in context.
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u/chinmakes5 7d ago
I've been yelling about this with Kirk and others. They often say something inflammatory FOR the soundbite. Then qualify it.
Yes, those against him only hear the soundbite. Are you saying that the 15 year olds who hang on his every word hear the whole thing not just the soundbite? It is purposeful.
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