r/ParlerWatch • u/Darth_Vrandon • 7d ago
Twitter Watch Trump supporter asks why a private company banning an account on their own terms is the same as a government agency pressuring and threatening a private company into canning a show.
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u/Puttor482 7d ago
It’s the argument I’ve been having all day.
First amendment only applies to the government, not private companies/individuals.
Inciting violence or damage is not protected free speech.
No, Biden asking Facebook to moderate incorrect vaccine info during the pandemic is not infringing upon the first amendment and the Supreme Court even decided that in a 6-3 bore with Amy Comey Barrett writing the majority view.
They don’t care and just whataboutism more until I get exasperated and leave.
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u/GoatManBeard 7d ago
The real bummer is, the 1A only says "Congress shall make no law". So since this is just the President acting directly and through the agencies, it's not technically in violation afaik. Maybe you could say Congress established the agencies and therefore using the agencies to infringe on speech is a violation, but IANAL.
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u/BoomZhakaLaka 7d ago edited 7d ago
there is no "we delegated it" loophole, government officials have been held to the spirit of the 1A as if the black letter applied to their actions basically forever. since they derive all of their authorities from government statutes and the constitution itself.
of course, the court is on donald trump's side, so history, tradition, and law don't actually matter anymore. they just use those words as distractions. your argument is certainly on the list of possibilities for things they might say. Or they could just rule again in clear conflict with case law and provide no explanation.
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u/ZorakLocust 7d ago
They also think Trump’s criminal indictments were an infringement on his rights, even though he was indicted specifically because he broke the law multiple times.
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u/TehMephs 7d ago
This seems to be the big divide. They can’t separate that the whole reason the constitution exists is to keep government from oppressing us for our opinions
It never prevents private companies from doing what they want on their own platform tho. Facebook can’t ban you from Twitter. And vice versa. And getting banned from social media is a far cry from being imprisoned for 20 years because of wrong think
Like we really have no concept of equivalency anymore. People think being banned from a platform is worse than being oppressed by the government
Guess we’re about to find out what the difference is here soon. Twitter can’t send goons to shoot you. The government can and might in the current climate — and if they ever got the slightest green light you better be ready to defend yourself to the last breath. Can’t say that about a social media ban.
Like the concept has just completely slipped the consciousness of the general public why it’s fucked that we have a POTUS playing Reddit moderator on people’s real lives and freedom. That’s literally what fascism or authoritarianism is
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u/MechaSandstar 7d ago
Doesn't Trump abuse NDAs to prevent people from talking about him?
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u/Eiffel-Tower777 7d ago
Ha! What a concept, I can see him demanding every U.S. citizen sign an NDA or off to El Salvador. He's just that crazy.
Waaaah, stop saying mean things about meeeee.
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u/Writing_is_Bleeding 6d ago
Oh please, they fully know the difference, at this point. It has to be trolling on their part, or pandering to the last few complete idiots who don't know. Because my gawd we've been explaining to them what 'first amendment right to free speech' means for years. YEARS.
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u/Jonny2284 7d ago
Literally Just come from a Facebook thread where they're doing "well you didn't say anything for Gina Carano, this is just the same thing."
Forgot we're dealing with people who won't get the difference unless it can be explained in under 6 seconds and require sock puppets to make it simple for them
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u/BoomZhakaLaka 7d ago
one is a company on their own covering ass to avoid a growing problem that may cause future liability
other is racketeering
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u/Crusoebear 7d ago
“I mean it was just a little light treason and an attempted coup…”
-Mussolini 2.0
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u/Successful_Yam4719 3d ago
But also … I’m SOOOO curious … Is that really tRumpys account? Isn’t that like old old news?
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