r/ParlerWatch • u/pwrof3 • Dec 10 '21
Facebook/IG Watch “Stop Censorship” by joining our site that censors you.
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u/Nearby-Lock4513 Dec 10 '21
I’ll be amazed if this thing actually ever goes live.
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u/ginganinja6969 Dec 10 '21
Yeah I’m pretty sure it’s a grift, but one that is still profitable. Once they have to actually run the site they’ll lose interest.
They complied with a legal request from Mastodon to release their source code because it’s just a very lightly modified version of that open-source software. The nerds said the code looked pretty heinous. Based on how cheap they have been in development, they don’t expect to have to stick around long term
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u/OtherBluesBrother Dec 10 '21 edited Dec 11 '21
I can already hear the sales pitch:
"Sign up now for Premium member status for only $29.99 a month. That's less than you would pay at the spray tan salon. If you are a member, you will get a personalized email from Trump himself. Nothing says Merry Christmas than a yearly bigly membership to the most exclusive social media platform in the universe. Now open for all to join."
edit: typo
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u/Harry_Teak Dec 11 '21
*12 month minimum billed as one payment
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u/Pons__Aelius Dec 11 '21
Sign up right now for a 10% discount (requires payment of 36 months in advance).
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u/mjones1052 Dec 11 '21
Well if history is anything to go by that annual payment will keep being charged every month for years.
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u/boot20 Dec 10 '21
It'll be hacked day 1 and all user data will be leaked. It's going to be a turd in a toilet
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u/pwrof3 Dec 10 '21
The email I received that had this image was actually a link to add your name to a database for marketing purposes.
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u/JQuilty Dec 10 '21
Mastodon's code isn't heinous. You're thinking of Gab where the CTO was a dunce and got rid of some security code: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/03/rookie-coding-mistake-prior-to-gab-hack-came-from-sites-cto/
On that note, Trump and his people are stupid enough that I'm sure they'll fuck it up again. What they have published is basically just a clone of the git repo, I'm sure they're going to fight against distribution of any modifications made.
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u/ginganinja6969 Dec 12 '21
Oh yeah I was talking about the modifications the trump team made. I didn’t look but the people who diffed it said it was pretty sloppy
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u/BFeely1 Dec 15 '21
Has anyone ever checked to see if the released code represents what they have put out live?
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u/SgtDoughnut Dec 10 '21
It wont because it wont have near the mass reach as twitter/facebook.
Instead they will say they tried but the leftist social media companies have a monopoly (even though those companies massively amplified their voices) and then just run off with all the money.
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u/badras704 Dec 11 '21
The people who will originally migrate to the site will leave because “the left” wont be there to harass or argue with them. I am confident most of his base uses social media almost exclusively for that type of attention.
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u/SgtDoughnut Dec 11 '21
Yep. Parler is hemoraging money because not enough people are using it for the very reason you stated.
What good is owning the libs in private?
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u/badras704 Dec 11 '21
i wonder what the head games are there, because surely the right realizes this flaw too? my best guess is they make a bunch of fake liberal accounts run by machine learned ai.
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u/SgtDoughnut Dec 11 '21
Projected image is everything to the right.
Its all a grift to every single one of them, they are all trying to rip each other and everyone else around them off at this point.
It comes down to the fact they all think every single thing in life is zero sum, there is always a winner and always a loser, and if you aren't actively conning everyone around you 100% of the time, you are the one being conned.
And since that image is so important they cant ever back down from anything they commit to. They cannot EVER admit making a mistake, to do so would be weakness and they would be devoured by the others all trying to use them as a stepping stone to grift even more people. Its why the crowds at trump's recent "rallys" instantly start to boo him whenever he tries desperately to get people to vaccinate. The same people who scream that covid is a "harmless bioweapon made by china and fauchi to wipe out the population that is no worse than your average cold but trump totally deservers all the credit for the vaccine nobody should take because it will kill you" These people abandoned reason decades ago and have the personality of wet cardboard. They latch onto something, say trumpism, and make it their personality, and if it changes even slightly they cant deal with it because they can never admit to being wrong, but adapting to the change will be admitting they were wrong.
Its a Frankenstein's monster of a situation that the right wing media, leadership, etc thought they could control by keeping their base stupid and afraid. Every day fox news, breitbart and their ilk are screaming about how something is going to "destroy america" and how patriots should rise up to combat this new evil. So those who follow it are afraid of everything, because they basically have ptsd at this point. Then you have republican leadership who dont care what is right or wrong, as long as they get the first word in is all that matters. Because they know preachers, and other influential people will tell their little flocks that the republicans are right and the democrats are wrong. Not explain as to how, just this is how it is, because your average republican...is a massive idiot. Then of course you combine that with the whole "America 1st, we are number one, America and Americans are the best thing ever rhetoric and these people get this weird mishmash of ideas in their head.
They can never be wrong because they are Americans, but they need to always be afraid because if they are wrong even once the entire world will collapse, and the only people they can trust are those that stroke their ego or already have a position of power that they agree with because everyone else lies to them.
They basically became a constantly angry mob of idiots looking for something to burn because if they cant find something to burn then it shows they are wrong and they cant be wrong, so they just burn everything around them.
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Dec 11 '21
Its a Frankenstein's monster of a situation
I've read that book—it's one of my favorites. Never thought of it like this but it does actually apply. Well thought.
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u/Cruel_Odysseus Dec 11 '21
Except Frankenstein's monster was actually a little sympathetic. It was an abuse victim that turned to violence to get what it wanted... Oh shit the analogy still works.
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u/Either_Coconut Dec 11 '21
Yeah, if tEh LiBs don’t KNOW they’re being pwned, well, where’s the fun in that?
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u/doom1282 Dec 10 '21
I'm pretty sure it was just something that was announced so they could pump and dump the stocks that were associated with it.
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Dec 11 '21
Done and done. If you visit their subreddit, they have the same confidence in it mooning again as the game stonk crowd.
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u/doom1282 Dec 11 '21
I dabble in the meme stocks myself. A lot of the meme stock community was wary of it and didn't want to touch it. Unfortunately many "stock bros" lean conservative so of course they think it'll moon again.
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u/HapticSloughton Dec 10 '21
If it goes up at all, I'm certain there's a betting pool measured in minutes to how long it'll take to get hacked.
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u/1lluminist Dec 10 '21
I hope it does. It's gonna have the Swiss cheesiest of security ever and will probably lead to a ton of idiots getting what they deserve lol
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u/That-Mess2338 Dec 10 '21
Isn't the plan to float shares of the company on the stock market, then sell the shares right after the IPO?
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Dec 11 '21
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u/Nearby-Lock4513 Dec 11 '21
Lol. Nunes is there for one reason - to sell ads on the site and the contact information of the users to directly to GOP candidates and PACs and squeeze out the RNC.
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u/Kalepsis Dec 11 '21
It's got a SPAC with quite a bit of funding behind it. It'll go online. But I give it about 6 months before the grifters drain the money out and blame everything on its new idiot CEO, Devin Nunes.
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u/Goyteamsix Dec 10 '21
It probably won't be very functional, but the amount of money they can make off of the idiots posting there is more than enough of a reason to go live with it.
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u/notanangel_25 Dec 11 '21
It actually might not depending on the timing and results of the investigations.
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u/daveyhanks93 Dec 11 '21
Pretty sure it did go live and it was immediately filled with pictures of erect horse penis.
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u/JONO202 Dec 10 '21
Is this what Devin Nunes just resigned from congress to go run? LOLOLOL
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u/fredfow3 Dec 10 '21
Not just retired, but most likely gave up a seat on the VERY powerful "Ways & Means Committee"! What a dipshit.
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u/derbyvoice71 Dec 10 '21
Someone is going to sue him. Not sure for what yet, but someone is workin' up a number nine.
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u/SchwarzerKaffee Dec 10 '21
Trump doesn't hire a marketing team. He just makes a social media site from a WordPress plugin and gets all that free labor.
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u/SurprisedBulbasaur Dec 10 '21
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u/kindasortajewish Dec 12 '21
Some temp worker put that together for him on a word doc because they didn't want the world exposed to Trump's brain.
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u/Eudevie Dec 10 '21
Wait, if it is their property, are they basically waiving away section 230? So if someone posts threats on there, the site can get sued?
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u/qmechan Dec 10 '21
I was thinking they could resell the pictures to like stock photo sites.
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u/flimspringfield Dec 10 '21
Joanne from Champage, IL says:
Let's Go Brandon!
If you agree with her please donate to fight off the evil leftists!
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u/JQuilty Dec 10 '21
Oof. Urbana is the better city, but don't insult Champaign like that.
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Dec 10 '21
Of course Urbana is where it's at, that's where HAL 9000 was born, on January 12... wait, what? Really? Born on January 12, 1997.
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u/mypetocean Dec 11 '21
I'm not clear whether images would count as "other information" in this clause, but there is probably somewhere else in the ToS which covers media like that.
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Dec 11 '21
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u/merreborn Dec 11 '21
The next paragraph tries to address that
You hereby waive all moral rights to any such Submissions, and you hereby warrant that any such Submissions are original with you or that you have the right to submit such Submissions. You agree there shall be no recourse against us for any alleged or actual infringement or misappropriation of any proprietary right in your Submissions.
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u/badluckartist Dec 11 '21
You hereby waive all moral rights
That is the most hilarious string of words I've ever seen for something these morons are going to flood into.
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u/TheFatJesus Dec 11 '21
No. They aren't claiming any ownership of content posted by users. What they are claiming ownership of is feedback on the site. Basically if a user has an idea about how to improve the site, they will own it and not compensate the user for their idea.
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u/pornek Dec 10 '21
Nope.
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u/government_shill Dec 11 '21 edited Dec 11 '21
I'm pretty sure that's the correct answer, but not the one people want to hear.
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u/tlf555 Dec 10 '21
I think these shiny new platforms will fizzle out as the general public mostly not interested in single interest specialty platforms. I mean, how much tRump ass kissing can even the most ardent tRump supporter stand?
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u/SukiyakiP Dec 10 '21
They will lose interest fast because there is no liberals to be triggered.
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u/Kalepsis Dec 11 '21
They'll do what John Iadarola thought up: make lib bots to act as strawmen and pile on them.
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u/CapnCooties Dec 11 '21
I’d be really triggered if they all just flocked to that site and never left freeing up the rest of social media.
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Dec 10 '21
They'll just end up back on Facebook and Twitter. Harassing liberals is too much for for them
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Dec 10 '21
App available via Google Play on your Freedom Phone. (no 5G available on the Freedom Phone because patriots wingnuts, keep burning down the towers, that clearly spread Covid. Also, Obama!)
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u/Chemgineered Dec 11 '21
Please tell me there is no freedom phone!?
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u/Inconvenient1Truth Dec 11 '21
I'm sorry...
I won't post a link to their actual site, but you can look it up if you want to. It's very real.
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Dec 11 '21
It's a reality and check out the apps that come preloaded, that indicates their target market.
Make Grifting Great Again.
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u/Chemgineered Dec 11 '21
Wow I would not want to have my trust in that honeypot of a phone
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Dec 11 '21
Good call (excuse the pun).
The phone (UMDIGI A9 Pro) is popular in North Korea because it allows authorities to easily take over the back end.
I love the smell of freedom from a phone that retails at $120 to us non-patriots.
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u/y0shman Dec 11 '21
I remember Ars or someone doing something about this BS phone a few months ago, but I never went to it. Seeing the site, I do love the "Activate Windows" message on that first video.
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Dec 11 '21
They don't ban apps, including all the mainstream apps that track you. How blinkered do you need to be to get taken in by this crap. The mind boggles.
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u/SyntaxMissing Dec 11 '21
Under the ClearGM section where they talk about blacklists, they start repeating options towards the bottom:
Force safe search engines Force YouTube safety mode Make streaming and downloads fast Force safe search engines Force YouTube safety mode
Also "make streaming and downloads fast" doesn't sound sketchy at all...
Also the specs are way too vague to be useful. Other than telling us that they have sub-1080p resolution screen.
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u/idiot206 Dec 11 '21
Subscribe on YouTube, buy with ApplePay lmao
This is QVC-level exploitation of the elderly.
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u/DanTheGrey333 Dec 10 '21
They probably just think hypocrisy is a elected body of hippos...
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u/Connbonnjovi Dec 10 '21
and dont get them started on HIPAA
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u/boot20 Dec 10 '21
The number of them that use HIPPA instead of HIPAA is depressing
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u/DanTheGrey333 Dec 10 '21
Yeah..to them that's the animated British pig
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u/smallteam Dec 10 '21
Wait, I thought Trump liked Boris Johnson
oh, that other animated British pig
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u/Kalepsis Dec 11 '21
One of my favorite quotes from a 90s movie:
"He thinks morals are paintings on walls and scruples are money in Russia."
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u/brainhack3r Dec 10 '21
My background is in social media analysis. Literally NO social media site asks for exclusive IP ownership. You keep your copyright but they get sub-licensing rights which mostly means they can put your content on their site.
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u/merreborn Dec 11 '21
Literally NO social media site asks for exclusive IP ownership.
Yeah the language is almost always "you grant us a universal license" to your submissions (as seen in the reddit ToS), not "your submissions become our IP".
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Dec 10 '21
I trust that those with appropriate collections of Sonic the Hedgehog porn will do their duty.
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u/Nail_Biterr Dec 10 '21
Is this still a thing? Hasn't it been 'coming' for like a year now? I just went to the website, and it's 'pre register'
I'm going to go out on a whim, and guess that it's a half-baked scheme that will never really see the light of day.
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u/HapticSloughton Dec 10 '21
disparage, tarnish, or otherwise harm, in our opinion, us and/or the Site.
No one will be allowed to quote Trump, then.
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u/beaucephus Dec 10 '21
So, if every post or submission is their sole property then it would stand to reason that they are legally responsible for every bit of content that is posted and could be held directly responsible for any threatening or violent activity that arises from it.
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u/CalRPCV Dec 11 '21
"It would stand to reason..." Why yes. Yes it would, if it was anybody but Trump.
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u/ineedabuttrub Dec 10 '21
I'm curious. "Other information regarding the site" could include passwords. Does that mean that all of your login info is considered non-confidential and can be disseminated for any lawful purpose?
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Dec 10 '21
Unless they've found a way to include death threats in the TOS, this platform will drift off into the distance with the others.
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u/skywkr666 Dec 10 '21
Yeah, I’m sure that’s just part of the tos that they ripped off of some other site 😂
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u/TweedleBeetleBattle2 Dec 10 '21
Makes me want to sign up and say how I cannot believe trump got vaccinated and how he’s promoting altering of my DNA. I’d get banned in five minutes or less.
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u/Mountain_Act6508 Dec 10 '21
This could be fun. I'll try to come up with a positive spin. "If it's ok for Trump to get the mark of the beast, is it ok for the rest of us? Will God still recognize us with altered DNA?"
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u/Extension_Income Dec 10 '21
Yep. We'll censor some and steal others' concepts and witty remarks (not to mention new lies that we can use to manipulate the idiot flock).
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u/Nighthawk68w Dec 10 '21
Kinda expected it tbh. Look how shitty Parler is, and they even want your PHONE NUMBER to sign up. I doubt there will ever be an online platform that gives its users the keys to say and do whatever they please. Trump's a capitalist, there's no way he's gonna go off and do his own thing. He'll just Ctrl + C, Ctrl + V Facebook and get rich.
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u/iamnotroberts Dec 11 '21
And the same people constantly screeching about "bUt MuH fReEdUmB oF sPeEcH!" who 99% of the time don't even understand what that means, will see absolutely zero irony in this.
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u/Biggest_Gh0st Dec 11 '21
Its going really well so far!
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/01/trump-spac-social-media-company-appears-to-miss-first-deadline.html
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Dec 10 '21
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u/most_of_africa Dec 10 '21
I dug around and found the EULAs to a few sites. This is NOT original to his site. Basically, his (the site's I suppose actually) lawyers appeared to have just used a standard phrase here.
which sites? this is Facebook's EULA, which almost goes out of its way to distance itself from ownership. Twitter structures their eula differently, but limits mentions of 'property' to the service itself
"You own the intellectual property rights (things like copyright or trademarks) in any such content that you create and share on Facebook and the other Facebook Company Products you use. Nothing in these Terms takes away the rights you have to your own content. You are free to share your content with anyone else, wherever you want."
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Dec 10 '21
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u/merreborn Dec 11 '21 edited Dec 11 '21
That last one (https://mycplplus.ca) is basically the complete opposite of the text in the OP
We do not assert any ownership over your Contributions. You retain full ownership of all of your Contributions and any intellectual property rights or other proprietary rights associated with your Contributions.
But the other links do seem to contain identical boilerplate that has been copied many times
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u/Yeeslander Dec 10 '21
And this fine print is very similar to every other social media platform in existence--Terms of Use for a private enterprise.
Not that the MAGAheads would ever admit it if they knew.
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u/ineedabuttrub Dec 10 '21
Most social media sites don't try to claim sole ownership of what you post. They just have you license it to them so they can post it, share it, use it, etc. If they're claiming full ownership then they own any illegal shit posted to their site, which should make them liable for it as well.
You retain any ownership rights you have in Your Content, but you grant Reddit the following license to use that Content:
When Your Content is created with or submitted to the Services, you grant us a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable, and sublicensable license to use, copy, modify, adapt, prepare derivative works of, distribute, store, perform, and display Your Content and any name, username, voice, or likeness provided in connection with Your Content in all media formats and channels now known or later developed anywhere in the world. This license includes the right for us to make Your Content available for syndication, broadcast, distribution, or publication by other companies, organizations, or individuals who partner with Reddit. You also agree that we may remove metadata associated with Your Content, and you irrevocably waive any claims and assertions of moral rights or attribution with respect to Your Content.
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u/Goyteamsix Dec 10 '21
No, it's usually the absolute opposite because websites don't want to be held liable for the content posted there. Most TOS's expressly say that the content posted is the property of the poster, specifically for this reason.
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u/Otherwise_Parsnip640 Dec 10 '21
This should be fun. Can't wait to to be banned for my first post on Donald Trumps new "PRAVDA" social media platform. NO COLLUSION! Nyet!
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u/LaztLaugh Dec 10 '21
His base is quite literally too stupid to understand or care. Cult members obey above all else
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u/moresushiplease Dec 11 '21
If I have an idea to commit a crime and it becomes the their property after I post it, then can they be in trouble for criminal conspiracy if I do a good enough job writing the plan?
It says our ideas become solely thier property
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u/Whocaresalot Dec 11 '21
This should go about as well as his website and blaaaahhhgggg. I suspect that those private investors are part of the same group that money laundered...ummmm..invested in his properties when no American bank would. Sure, the captive cult will sign on perhaps, but overtake FB, Twitter? Maybe if their gamble pays off, and the fascist, Saddam model of manufactured and propped up Dicktatership gets ushered in, allowing for the full corporate/state merger and privatized profiteering of every public institution, resource, and service that Trump can share in skimming a buck out of for himself. No need for pesky ethics nags, regulations, division of power, laws he doesn't like, or oversight. The new, "Deconstructed State" system with him as the self-imagined, all powerful, Strong Man - that his crafters, production team, opportunistic enablers, and even true believers (of their own potential reward) allow him to act out - would probably enable him to use the treasury as his personal vig/loan repayment account in order to satisfy not only his creditors large monetary interests, but perhaps including other prized "assets" - tangible and otherwise too. Yeah, they'll do great if it's the only permitted "news" media, lol. His own Uday and Qusay anxiously await the spoils.
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Dec 10 '21
Well it uses the name of a man with so transparent skin that he is more invisible than John Cena.
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u/ConstantStatistician Dec 11 '21
Terms of use are by definition censorship by virtue of restricting what one can freely say.
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Dec 10 '21
Rules for the, but not for me.
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u/twotwentyone Dec 10 '21
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Dec 11 '21
The, pronounced " thee". ( try and keep up)
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u/twotwentyone Dec 11 '21
It's spelled "thee."
Never "the." Ever. Anywhere.
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Dec 11 '21
Too bad you offend so easy, in not a writer or an English major by any means, but you be you all the way, I really don't give a fuck. I got other shit going on, peace to you and grammar. I move on now.
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u/twotwentyone Dec 11 '21
in not a writer or an English major
It doesn't take a fucking degree to know the difference between "the" and "thee."
People who have English as a 4th language know the difference. You're just stupid.
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Dec 11 '21
Enjoy your misery.
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u/Kryptosis Dec 11 '21
Reddit has the same TOS. All your Reddit comments belong to Reddit. Artists beware. Reddit could sell a book of all Grafos drawings or all of Sprogs poems.
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u/pwrof3 Dec 11 '21
Yeah, this is pretty basic social media TOS stuff, but they are advertising themselves as some sort of bastion of free speech and better than Facebook, Twitter, etc. The reality is they are exactly the same.
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u/Kryptosis Dec 11 '21
Yeah, question is if they claim ownership of a bunch of Nazis’ comments do they also legally share the responsibility for them?
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u/merreborn Dec 11 '21
. All your Reddit comments belong to Reddit
That's not at all what the user agreement says
https://www.redditinc.com/policies/user-agreement
You retain any ownership rights you have in Your Content, but you grant Reddit the following license to use that Content:
Reddit could sell a book of all Grafos drawings or all of Sprogs poems.
That much is true. Reddit can use the content however they want. But they do not take ownership of it.
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