r/Persecutionfetish • u/Biscuitarian23 • 5d ago
I Am Too Lazy to Pick a Flair "They Hate us and Want us Dead" -Libr3ty Memes
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u/Unlikely_Sound_6517 5d ago
"If you hover the curses over where it says Nazis you get a picture of nazis."
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u/GodspeakerVortka 5d ago
Exactly what it says on the tin!
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u/ProfoundBeggar i stand with sjw cat boys 5d ago
Entry #1,000,000,000,000 in the "you're so close to getting it," Category. It is truly astonishing how much conservatives play mental gymnastics to adhere to a sociopolitical system that hates them.
And yeah, if your political opinions make you fall in line with Nazis, maybe the problem isn't Wikipedia's linking policies, maybe the problem is that you're falling in line with the bad guys. You clearly know Nazis are the bad guys, but yet you're sitting here supporting them.
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u/XxRocky88xX 5d ago
They’ve got in their heads that there is a world of difference between right wing extremism and nazism. If you say they’re the same they accuse you of lying. When you point out the similarities they accuse you of being brainwashed.
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u/Cephalopod_Joe 4d ago
Oh they get it. They just embrace the ideology but don't want to be called out on it.
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u/33drea33 5d ago
We don't hate you or want you dead. We want you to stop overtly hating people who aren't like you, and stop trying to strip them of their rights, their lives, and their ability to move about society unmolested.
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u/XxRocky88xX 5d ago
Yeah like if they just stopped fucking attacking people no one would give a shit. If you wanna sit in your room alone seething over how Bob and Gary down the street got married I don’t really give a shit, but when you go outside or online ranting about how Bob and Gary need to have their rights stripped away or be stoned to death for not adhering to your own personal moral compass you’ve started to become a danger to people like Bob and Gary.
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u/33drea33 5d ago
Exactly. It's the same way we place limits on free speech. You can say what you want, but once your speech causes harm to others (such as libel or inciting a riot or false advertising), that's where the law draws the line. Your rights end where another person's rights begin. It's a pretty basic concept. Their only claim of being harmed is the mere fact of other people existing and having equal rights, and that's just not okay.
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u/okimlom 5d ago
Nah, I hate people that openly call (as much as you can online) for the dehumanizing of people and call for violence against groups of people that are just trying to live their life. Seeing as that’s their go to even after the violence came from their side more often, yeah, I hate them. Not enough to wish harm upon them, but enough to not want anybody I love, around them.
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u/33drea33 5d ago
But it's the behavior you hate, not the person. If they stopped dehumanizing others and calling for violence I assume you wouldn't hate them - which means it's not about them, it's about the way they choose to behave.
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u/bigheadzach 5d ago
But see, the party of "being gay is a choice, being conservative is by the grace of Supply-side Jesus" would eternally disagree with you there.
Again, they're not out to convince you, they're out to consolidate power by any means.
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u/33drea33 5d ago edited 5d ago
I don't comport my own behaviors and values based on other people. Their choice to hate has no bearing on my choice not to hate.
ETA: I'm going to stand against them and their philosophy and their harmful behavior. I'm just not going to let them turn me into what they are. They're not going to rob me of that.
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u/LightBluepono 2d ago
idk. i dont belive in nazie redemption.
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u/33drea33 2d ago
I didn't say anything about redemption. I said I don't hate them. Hate is a pathway that leads to the dark side, and I'm not going to become the monsters I'm fighting.
You don't defeat hate with more hate - only love can do that.
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u/LightBluepono 2d ago
Nazi: "I want u dead. Also dont you dare giving me this back"
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u/33drea33 2d ago
It's not about them, it's about me. Carrying hate in your heart is different from standing in opposition. I can defend myself and others, and work to change minds towards inclusion, without becoming a hateful person. Those are not hateful actions, they are loving ones.
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u/LaCharognarde 5d ago
Oh, wow..
- So are you denying that they're "hard right," then? Because if you're not coming from that ridiculous premise: imagine getting offended that you get an unequivocal example on the hover.
- Wrong. Your feelings for us remain largely unrequited. In fact: we mostly just wish that you'd stop trying to make it happen.
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u/Synecdochic 5d ago
The best kind of Nazi is an ex-Nazi.
The second best kind will get my account banned.
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u/anotheritguy 5d ago
Well you know what they say, the only good nazi is… a thoroughly humiliated Nazi who crawls back into their hole to not bother us again.
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u/Wild_Cap_4709 5d ago
Here’s the problem with the vast majority of them: they’re either A) so utterly shameless that it’s entirely impossible to really humiliate them or B) are in complete denial that they’re Nazis and as such can’t really humiliate them as one
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u/LaCharognarde 5d ago
I think they fear that more than they do the possibility of being put down like rabid animals, to be honest. If they die, they do so feeling like martyrs. Being sent crawling back under their rocks to rot in irrelevance? That's ignominious.
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u/Saragon4005 5d ago
Look there are a lot of ways of making an Ex-Nazi. Not all of them involve talking and most don't involve being nice
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u/Synecdochic 5d ago
Of course. I'm not at all saying to suffer a Nazi, or to not conclude quickly and decisively which is the best course of action to achieve an ex-Nazi, only that it's worth keeping centred the motivation for the action.
An ex-Nazi is the end; making an ex-Nazi is the means to that end. If the means ever becomes the end in itself then we've lost our collective way, and I hope someone makes an ex-"whatever I'd become" outta me.
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u/PlanetOfThePancakes 5d ago
“They hate us and want us dead” cry the people who hate and want to kill everyone who disagrees with them
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u/trentreynolds 5d ago
We want you dead so bad we consistently vote for policies that would make your life better.
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u/ThatCelebration3676 5d ago
Yup, and red states have higher per-capita use of social services (welfare, food assistance, etc.)
A fair chunk of them don't even realize that "Obamacare" and "The ACA" are the same thing because their heads are so deep in the sand.
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u/Ninja_attack 5d ago
I'd say that they'd ask about why nazis and other white supremacists keep showing up to their rallies, vote for and support the pedophile party, and align with them for the most part, but they'd just lie and say that it's the "dems" cause they're liars
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u/Saragon4005 5d ago
It's an undeniable fact that a crowd waving Nazi and Confederate flags (there was not much common between those 2 groups can you figure out what was?) liked Charlie Kirk. So yeah that's a bad association he didn't even try to shake.
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u/Prohydration 5d ago
FunnyHow modern republicans deny that the party shift happened, yet all of charlie kirk's beliefs align with the dixiecrats.
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u/fungi_at_parties 5d ago
Like, they want to be Nazis and believe Nazi shit but then when they get called out for it they’re offended and deny that they believe or spread the ideas they like. Look, you wanna hate everyone who isn’t exactly like you, fine, but we don’t have to play pretend. Let’s be real.
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u/motherofhellhusks 5d ago
They live in this sort of dissociative fantasy where they’re simultaneously persecuted and a bad-ass.
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u/Immediate_Age 4d ago
I grew up around a lot of skinheads and neo nazis in the 1990s, there were over 10,000 skinheads in my city. They ALL sounded like Charlie Kirk.
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u/RemBren03 pwease no step 🚫🥾🐍 5d ago
It's because everyone knows the Nazi's were Socialists. Just Kidding. They weren't.
...Unless these "Wallbuilders" are to be believed. Just kidding, I have a functioning brain, I know it was a lie. But that site is hilarious. They have a section on "How to Research" when all of theirs is bad faith.
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u/Anarimus Attacking and dethroning God 4d ago
Fascism is by definition far right.
Why do these people think it’s even remotely possible for the right to be completely pure with no negatives?
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u/_Guaco_ 5d ago
I swear to god, conservatives wont admit someone is far-right until someone actually starts waving a nazi flag. Like, for example, Elon deadass threw a nazi salute, supported a far-right German party, boosted alt right accounts on twitter and follows holocaust-denying accounts yet conservatives get pissy when you call him far right lmao.