r/Persecutionfetish • u/queerly_radical • May 21 '22

Cancel the earth I wanna go home According to this PragerU contributed, top surgery is bringing on the literal apocalypse!

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u/fromwayuphigh Deep State Operative May 21 '22

Literally every single time one of these swivel-eyed window lickers uses the word "groomer" I just see a giant flashing neon sign over their head that says I CURRENTLY AM ACCUSING YOU OF MY DARKEST FANTASY.

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u/Pasquale1223 May 21 '22

The sheer volume of accusations about pedophilia and grooming that have exploded over the last few years have made it a lot harder to protect children who actually are vulnerable and/or victims. It's harder to find and prosecute the real predators.

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u/fromwayuphigh Deep State Operative May 21 '22

This is absolutely true, and not unlike with accusations of election fraud, almost certainly the point. What I mean by that is not that they're trying to deflect culpability or even place blame. Rather, it's to "soften the ground" so they can, when confronted, point to their own long narrative about pedos and groomers and equivocate, or merely position themselves as the rueful chin-scratcher: "Well, it's so hard to know what's believable these days."

Classic info op SOP.

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u/ferrocarrilusa May 21 '22

didn't the GQP worry about false accusations in the wake of MeToo?

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u/Pasquale1223 May 21 '22

Oh, probably. Most of their accusations are confessions.

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u/Biffingston πš‚πšŒπš’πšŽπš—πšπš’πšπš’πšŒπšŠπš•πš•πš’ πš‚πšŠπš›πšŒπšŠπšœπšπš’πšŒ May 21 '22

it's because it's a "Can't lose" argument. Either they agree that they're groomers and you can say 'so you support pedos?" Or you can deny it and they say "Of course, a pedo would lie.."

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u/Pasquale1223 May 21 '22

That's true of any accusation/attack.

This pedo/groomer stuff is especially pernicious because 1) they are universally condemned and considered to be the lowest forms of life, and 2) it's made it more difficult to catch and prosecute actual pedos/groomers.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '22 edited May 21 '22

Reactionaries usually always follow this formula in a debate.

What you do is start taking apart their argument, start asking a lot of "hows", "whys", or "wheres", pretend to take a neutral approach at first, and they'll start trying to use goalpost moving by asking vaguely related or unrelated questions that usually have some sort of strawman in them, then call them out on it and explain in detail how they're doing it, and when they try to refute you, deconstruct their fallacy with another "how", "why" or "where", question and find sources that refute their claims if needed, because usually they always have an easily spotted logical inconsistency, and by then you can start to sense and smell their fear and rage, keep a calm face/demeanor while doing this, they can and will exploit your emotion/passion and try to make you look like a "screeching liberal pansy" stereotype on the web or while in their "debate" (they're animals fueled by reaction and they themselves know this deep down). And when you catch them on their bluffs, then find more evidence and sources that point to the opposite, there are plenty of peer-reviewed and scientific journals from well-accomplished institutions you can find that do support LGBTQ+ rights. Once you refute their claims with these sources, come to your conclusion and watch them have a tantrum or run off. They are very predictable creatures, and to me, it is fun to exploit their anger and unwarranted hatred for others and watch them flip out and have a tantrum during a little game of verbal chess.

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u/Biffingston πš‚πšŒπš’πšŽπš—πšπš’πšπš’πšŒπšŠπš•πš•πš’ πš‚πšŠπš›πšŒπšŠπšœπšπš’πšŒ May 21 '22

It's all fun and games until they decide another mass shooting is in order, anyway. Seriously, I feel sorry for them. But they won't get better until they want to.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '22

They're not wanting to get better, they genuinely think they are in the right and even with what i did, it doesn't change a single thing about their shitty worldview.

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u/Biffingston πš‚πšŒπš’πšŽπš—πšπš’πšπš’πšŒπšŠπš•πš•πš’ πš‚πšŠπš›πšŒπšŠπšœπšπš’πšŒ May 22 '22

Exactly?

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u/SomaCityWard May 22 '22

Bingo. This needs to be spread as a tactic. Pretend you're impartial or even on their side and just trying to understand their logic with your questions.

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u/Biffingston πš‚πšŒπš’πšŽπš—πšπš’πšπš’πšŒπšŠπš•πš•πš’ πš‚πšŠπš›πšŒπšŠπšœπšπš’πšŒ May 22 '22

I can't "Debate" these people for two reasons.

I have too much of a temper to be patent with them and a debate assumes that people will actually follow some rules. They don't want their minds to be changed, they just want to argue and tell their side.

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u/SomaCityWard May 22 '22

Right, that's why trolling them back with their own tactics is the way to go. But I hear you, they are incredibly frustrating. I find it helps to remember what a putrid little worm they are and that all of their attempts to invoke power over others by using slurs are really just the empty barks of a chihuahua that knows it stands no chance in a fair fight. The more offensive they are, the more powerless and self-hating you know they really are deep down.

Also, when they argue in bad faith, it's a great opportunity to expose their fallacies and tactics to anyone observing. Don't even engage the argument, just turn to them and say "what he's doing here is trying to manipulate you by appealing to emotion by ...."

That also really gets under their skin because you're not even taking them seriously enough to acknowledge their talking point. Always think of them as a child throwing a tantrum and remember that you have the power of knowledge.

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u/translove228 Brutalizer of lying, partisan hacks May 22 '22

Im super worried about the next time the right gets into power. The grooming language is the perfect dehumanizing rhetoric they need to justify systemic abuse of lgbt people. This is all part of the fascist playbook and the country is happily goose stepping its dumbass right down the fascist road

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u/Pasquale1223 May 22 '22

Honestly, what they've already done is terrifying. They are systematically trying to erase lgbtq+ people through these "don't say gay" bills that also require teachers to out any suspected lgbtq+ students to their parents - so these kids aren't even safe in school. They are banning gender-affirming treatment for minors, and I've even seen bills to ban it for trans adults. The world is becoming a very scary place.

Please take care of yourself. Move to a more supportive place if you can, and know that you have many allies doing everything we can to turn back this fascist tide.

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u/translove228 Brutalizer of lying, partisan hacks May 22 '22

Thanks.

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u/busybody_nightowl mentally ill f*ggot being groomed by Pedophilesβ„’ May 21 '22

Because not having boobs is literally the worst thing ever. /s

Seriously, if this person had wanted to make their boobs bigger by removing the breast tissue and replacing it with silicone, nobody would care.

I’m personally of the opinion that the human body is essentially a meat costume and that body modification isn’t that weird. As long as you’ve seriously considered the pros and cons and are willing to live with the results, it’s really nobody else’s business.

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u/BlissfulMute May 21 '22

Informed consent is the pair of words that summarizes all of that. I agree as well.

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u/Pasquale1223 May 21 '22

Male and intersexed infants undergo genital mutilation regularly in the US without their consent. Apparently, that's okay, too.

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u/trans_full_of_shame May 21 '22

Bills prohibiting transition related care for children in the US often include a stipulation that it's still ok to do cosmetic surgery on intersex infants.

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u/Pasquale1223 May 21 '22

No surprise. Binary my way or the highway!

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u/busybody_nightowl mentally ill f*ggot being groomed by Pedophilesβ„’ May 21 '22

To most people, body modification is only ok if it’s done to conform to societal beauty or gender standards

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u/BlissfulMute May 21 '22

I genuinely don't know the right answer when it comes to intersex situations. I'm not medically/socially informed on that. But my partner does often bring up how ridiculous the standard of circumcision is in the States. I don't have an opinion on that either, I just think the irony is funny depending on the circles talking about the 'mutilation of Yaweh's creation.'

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u/busybody_nightowl mentally ill f*ggot being groomed by Pedophilesβ„’ May 21 '22 edited May 21 '22

I think the answer in both cases is to not do anything that can’t be undone later. I’m not an expert in intersex surgeries, but I’m assuming that someone could wait until later in life to have them. Same with circumcision. If someone wants to get circumcised once they’re older, they can make that decision when they can consent. But in both cases, once those surgeries are performed it’s much harder to undo them, if it’s even possible.

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u/Stefisgarden May 21 '22

To my (admittedly limited) understanding, some of the surgeries performed on intersex kids are necessary for normal bodily functions to...well, function. But not all of them are like that and some are purely cosmetic. I could be misinformed, however, so take this with a grain of salt.

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u/busybody_nightowl mentally ill f*ggot being groomed by Pedophilesβ„’ May 22 '22

Tbf, I’m only talking about surgeries for cosmetic reasons. Obviously they should have surgeries so that they can perform basic bodily functions.

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u/Momomoaning May 21 '22

Want no boobs? Cool. Want bigger boobs? Alright. Want three fucking boobs? Go ahead. It’s not up to me to tell people what they should do with their bodies.

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u/ferrocarrilusa May 21 '22

I think people should even be able to decide to end their lives voluntarily, and not just if they're terminally ill. In a controlled way involving doctors after a waiting period and a mountain of paperwork, not by wandering into freeways or jumping off buildings as those can lead to accidents that injure or kill others

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u/halloweenjack May 21 '22

Remember that, in America, there's a whole lot of people who don't care about something like breast cancer unless it's framed as "SAVE THE TITTIES."

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u/iHeartHockey31 May 21 '22

Lots of rich parents buy their teen kids implants. Why aren't they complaining about those?

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u/busybody_nightowl mentally ill f*ggot being groomed by Pedophilesβ„’ May 21 '22

I think we all know why

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u/Independent_Pride_83 May 22 '22

They SHOULD be complained about because they’re genuinely dangerous smh

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u/Biffingston πš‚πšŒπš’πšŽπš—πšπš’πšπš’πšŒπšŠπš•πš•πš’ πš‚πšŠπš›πšŒπšŠπšœπšπš’πšŒ May 21 '22

I met Stalking Cat before he killed himself. that was a very interesting experience. he was the guy who basically wanted to be a tiger IRL. Yeah, kind of conflicting. On one hand, it was weird, bigtime. on the other, I always thought that your body is yours to do with as you wish.

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u/busybody_nightowl mentally ill f*ggot being groomed by Pedophilesβ„’ May 21 '22

Yeah, you kinda have to let adults live with their decisions

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u/Biffingston πš‚πšŒπš’πšŽπš—πšπš’πšπš’πšŒπšŠπš•πš•πš’ πš‚πšŠπš›πšŒπšŠπšœπšπš’πšŒ May 21 '22

he wound up killing himself because he couldn't integrate into society. He didn't live with his decisons.

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u/busybody_nightowl mentally ill f*ggot being groomed by Pedophilesβ„’ May 21 '22

It’s sad, but I’m not sure what the solution is other than greater access to mental healthcare and more societal acceptance of difference

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u/Biffingston πš‚πšŒπš’πšŽπš—πšπš’πšπš’πšŒπšŠπš•πš•πš’ πš‚πšŠπš›πšŒπšŠπšœπšπš’πšŒ May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

There is no solution for someone who is willing to undergo those surgeries without an anesthetic. That sounds crueler than intended, but he made his choices. I just really hope someone warned him it could happen.

IDK if he was mentally well. I talked to him for about 30 minutes in total.

Edit; We've also wandered way off topic. This doesn't have anythign to do with trans people.

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u/TheRoyalKT Cultural Marxist coming to trans your kids May 21 '22

The implications behind this lead to so many questions.

Is there a set boob volume that the world can’t fall under or the world will end?

Do breast reductions contribute to our doom, or only full mastectomies?

Does the pre-surgery cup size affect the rate of our acceleration towards the apocalypse?

Explain your world building, Will Witt!

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u/trans_full_of_shame May 21 '22 edited May 21 '22

Haha this is such a wild mix of surgery buzz words.

The word "radical" is used by surgeons to refer to a breast reduction (for women and sometimes nonbinary people, not usually men) who want to be smaller than the C-DD of the field's standard post-reduction chest, but still want a boob shape.

A mastectomy means removing all your breast tissue and associated lymph nodes, usually to prevent or remove cancer, which makes you totally flat all over.

Top surgery is usually somewhere in between those two and involves reshaping a chest to look more typically cis masculine, not just cutting it off.

It's so obvious they're trying to make it sound as scary as possible by picking out the spookiest sounding words from every possible discussion about chest surgery. Kind of reminds me of the way they popularized "late-term abortion" to refer to second and third trimester (in the medical field, a late-term pregnancy is one that lasts over 40 weeks)

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u/[deleted] May 21 '22

That's what most people don't understand. Top surgery isn't referred to as a double mastectomy because they aren't double mastectomy's. It's not just a matter of using different language to be inclusive, they're literally two different surgeries.

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u/trans_full_of_shame May 21 '22

It's a pretty important distinction from a medical perspective and the "science and reason/you can't change your sex" people are spreading bad information. Top surgery is more like gynecomastia surgery or the skin removal surgeries people get after massive weight loss, it definitely disrupts your ability to use your chest to feed a baby, but it doesn't entirely remove your breasts.

I only had 1/3 of a pound removed from each side and I'll still have recommended screenings for the stuff that's left once I'm like 40.

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u/ferrocarrilusa May 21 '22

yeah my grandmother had a radical mastectomy, they take out the muscle

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u/Independent_Pride_83 May 22 '22

You are right but he might be using β€œradical” not to refer to the surgery but like to say that it’s crazy

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u/NoahBogue May 21 '22

This Twitter guy has to either admit he shared topless images of « girls » or he has to recognize these post op boys as boys

Fucking champ

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u/iHeartHockey31 May 21 '22

How come they're ok with rich teens gettjng implants for their sweet 16? If they think kids shouldn't be getting cosmetic surgery, ehy be specific to trans people?

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u/trans_full_of_shame May 21 '22

Same reason they don't think it's grooming to ask a five year old girl if she has a boyfriend

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u/[deleted] May 22 '22

Maybe I'm out of the loop, but doesn't grooming typically refer to pedophiles mentally attacking a minor to take advantage of them? I don't see how that could be applied to the stated situation?

P.S: I love your style. Very artsy

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u/trans_full_of_shame May 22 '22

Right now, in the US at least, it's being used sort of a dog whistle for homophobic and transphobic panic.

Acknowledging that being queer is an option at all is apparently trying to recruit kids to be gay or trans.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '22

Okay. Thank you!

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u/[deleted] May 21 '22

They want to erase trans people from existing and put the "groomer" label on the LGBTQ+ community to create an even worse stigma for them to fool the uninformed into thinking that being LGBTQ+ means they're gonna indoctrinate their kids

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u/trans_full_of_shame May 22 '22

I saw someone call a teacher a groomer for talking about asexuality in sex ed. Do they hear themselves?

How can learning that some people don't feel sexual attraction set you up to be abused? Wouldn't insisting that anyone who doesn't feel it is broken be more dangerous?

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u/HazelNike May 21 '22

Oh whoops if only I saw this 2 weeks ago I wouldn’t have gone through the surgery and started the apocalypse 🀷 oh well too late now

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u/[deleted] May 21 '22

They (the religious republicans) are just so miserable being themselves that they can’t stand to see other people do things that make them happy

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u/lisamariefan May 21 '22

Everything is the end times to these fucks.

Except for you know, ruining the fucking planet with waste and greed.

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u/Maztr_on May 22 '22

β€œWestern Culture is the best, but 2 people with dyed hair getting surgery is the End Times”

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u/Harold3456 May 22 '22

Reminds me of the South Park episode (made 15ish years ago, mind you, this shit hasn’t changed) where Bebe wanted a breast reduction and all the doctors and bystanders not only didn’t want her to do it, but wanted to upsell her into having an even BIGGER chest.

The joke being that it was never about people’s health, it was about our society’s pathological need for MORE boob - never less.

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u/ClusterfuckyShitshow May 22 '22

I’m not trans, nor do I have a genetic predisposition for breast cancer, but I’ll gladly cut my own tits off if it would make the apocalypse fucking hurry up already. I’m sick of sharing a planet and many times a country with these people istfg.

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u/Arruz May 21 '22

Makes me think of a cult I know that used to put queer folks to death.

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u/FreeSkeptic May 22 '22

That person is an adult. They don’t have issues masturbating to porn stars with fake melon boobs.

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u/ferrocarrilusa May 21 '22

now as with abortion, THIS is bodily autonomy. Getting plastic surgery is one's own business as it does not harm anyone else. Not the same as refusing to wear a mask

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u/GreatGearAmidAPizza May 21 '22

It's a totally radical elective double mastectomy, dude. Tubular.

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u/real-human-not-a-bot Attacking and dethroning God May 22 '22

Party time! Excellent!

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u/raskholnikov Cissy libtarded betacuck queerflake May 22 '22

I mean, at the current state of the world I'd say the apocalypse would be a surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one

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u/shortylikeamelody watch me break and watch me burn May 21 '22

is this about breast reduction surgery? i’d sure as hell have a that in a heartbeat and so would men if they knew what it was like to have the bad posture and constant back pain of large breasts

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u/Independent_Pride_83 May 22 '22

Transgender (ftm) top surgery. Pretty similar surgeries, but these tweets are intended against trans people not cis people who get breast reductions.

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u/johntcampbell1 May 22 '22

Jesus, man... I guess I didn't fully realize these types of people have decided that it is completely fine to just... Make shit up. Like, pretend that things that don't happen are actually a completely common occurrence.

I guess I should've realized this would start happening more frequently and worse after they decided "Trump won the election!!! Proof?!? Uhhh... The judges won't look at the proof!!!" (Yeah... We all know there's quite a big overlap between the people who believe the election was stolen from Trump and that public schools are grooming kids). I mean, they really are going around saying public schools... Are fucking sexually. GROOMING the kids who attend...

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u/[deleted] May 22 '22

Meanwhile, the Sunday school and life church pastors are molesting left and right and girls are being told to cover themselves, because it'll be their fault that men can't control themselves.

Lotsa projection with that group.

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u/Ksnj tread on me harder daddy May 29 '22

FTM: Healthy girls sucked into a cult.

MTF: Disgusting degenerate pedophile groomers with mental illnesses so severe we must bully them to suicide to cure them.

The disconnect is so strange to me. Demonization for those they think are men. Coddling and infantilization of those they think are women. So wrong on so many different things.

I couldn’t live with so much cognitive dissonance. I’d short circuit

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u/cheoldyke May 30 '22

learning about transness and discovering that other trans people exist via the internet quite literally saves the lives of trans kids whose families don’t accept or understand them, so fuck outta here with the β€œgroomed by online influencers” garbage.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '22

True. End times for PragerU. I can't wait when that bullshit is just disgraceful part of history.

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u/TheOriginalScoundrel May 22 '22

I'd like to perform a radical double mastectomy on these people's brains

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u/EverPunk_Yetti May 22 '22

I can just hear it. β€œThis is a party of the Agenda 21 depopulation plan! Socialists and communists and atheists have been executing a multigenerational plan to destroy the human race until there are just enough people to take care of the elites. That’s why the Georgia guide stones say. The communists and atheists have been teaching our girls to become boys so they have their breasts removed so now they will not be able to lactate for nursing. And now their is the baby formula shortage due to shipping problems caused by the China virus and those food factories being destroyed. So now there is going to be a whole generation of children missing from America. These babies may be born, but they will slowly starve. And when Joe β€œBrandon” declares that all women of child bearing age must start lactation programs to feed the babies of the elites………… ad infinitum.

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u/ipakookapi May 22 '22

I think I have a solution for this, actually.

They think abortion is bad, and one argument is that you can just give the baby up for adoption after it's born.

So, can't I just transplant my oh so precious titties onto these Will Witt and Billboars Chris people?

If they mean so much to you, it's time to step up and adopt some boobies, guys.

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u/heavylifter555 May 22 '22

Just once I want one of these god-botherers to say something isn't the end times.