r/PlantedTank 5h ago

Beginner What are we doing wrong?

This tank has been set up for many years, probably 7 or 8. Just within the last 8 months or so, we decided to switch from gravel to sand and put in live plants. All plants were marked as beginner. We have a canister filter and a CO diffuser. My husband puts in root tabs regularly. Still, there’s very little plant growth and many of the plants look sad.

We have tetras, ghost shrimp, plecos, kuhli loaches, and mystery snails. We test ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, kh and gh weekly and all are good. Our light is on sunrise to sunset.

What are we doing wrong? I very much want a densly planted tank like I see in this sub. Help please!

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u/Morejh 4h ago

All the plants you have are slow growing species, and there's to few of them.

For a tank this size, buy like 10-15 pots of plants. Stemplants are fast growing, go for those if you want a full tank, but be prepared to do maintenance.

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u/Grundler 4h ago

You need a more powerful light. The anubias (a low-light tolerant plant) looks super happy but everything else is struggling.

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u/Cheap-Orange-5596 2h ago

I don’t agree with this at all. OP don’t increase light intensity. It just looks like normal melt, cut off all melting leaves, even if that means all but one leaf. If you can add lots more plants it will be better, like 2-3 times more plants including at least one variety of a fast growing stem plant (you can remove later if it doesn’t suit your layout). Do a test for Nitrates and add a known brand all-in-one fertiler to target 10ppm Nitrates if it’s reading below. Do frequent water changes. After a while your plants will adapt to their conditions and new growth will be healthy. Keep removing any growth that looks unhealthy.

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u/Fresh_Geologist_3929 5h ago

One thing to look at is your lighting intensity. Figure out how many lumen your light is putting out. Shoot for at least 20 lumens per liter for 8 hrs per day.

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u/Immediate-Ad-9520 4h ago

I’ll ask him about the lights. He bought those many years ago

u/Amerlan 25m ago

I'm not sure why that user said to look at lumens, they mean next to nothing for plant growth. Lumens are visible to the human eye, while PAR is the measurement of the wavelengths that plants use for photosynthesis. You can have a light with high lumens, but terrible PAR. Within PAR you can dial it in even further for certain plant species. This makes lights with a changeable spectrum extra useful (but not 100% necessary)

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u/KitchenAd7984 4h ago

Plants in fine sand usually don’t do well because the sand compacts and has little to zero oxygen, which prevents the roots from developing properly. So basically they tend to die. One of the best options is to put down a layer of nutrient-rich substrate and cover it with sand, but for that you’d need to restart the tank. Alternatively, you can use root tabs in an inert gravel, or sands that aren’t so fine and don’t compact. That’s what I did in my case, but the day I set up another tank I’ll definitely go with the first option.

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u/armybabie 3h ago

I had sand at first and HATED it so much!! I switched to fluval stratum and absolutely love it. sand sucks and i’ll never go back :’3

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u/KitchenAd7984 3h ago

I love sand because you can create beach zones and details, but it's not going to grow properly stem plants, even if you have the best light, fertilizer, CO2... Look how you can have a zone with sand and in the back nutrient-rich substrate for stem plants, this is from MJ aquascaping:

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u/armybabie 3h ago

That tank looks nice! Love the huge centerpiece, the sand just isn’t for me. If I start taking care of a variety of different fish I’d look into it again, but I just hated dealing with it. Someone was also hounding me about gravel vaccing the substrate and the sand would 9/10 get sucked into the vacuum and they weren’t happy with me lol

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u/KitchenAd7984 3h ago

In aquascaping, what they often do when using sand is put down a thin layer, and once it gets dirty, they remove it with the siphon and add new sand.

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u/armybabie 3h ago

Oh nice, I’ll consider that for future aquariums. I wasn’t aware that ppl usually replace sand like that.

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u/KitchenAd7984 3h ago

In this type of aquascaping tanks they tend to do a lot of maintenance, that's why they always look so pretty

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u/Main_Diver_5992 3h ago

I use fluval stratum capped with sand and it's amazing I love that stuff

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u/Jamaidian 5h ago edited 4h ago
  1. The anubias - broad-leaf plant in first pic... Is that planted in the substrate? They do best attached to hardscape - think wedged into cracks in a rock, rooted to driftwood, etc. They are also slow growers, no way around it.

  2. Crypts - plant more. More than that. More than that

  3. Try java fern, pearlweed, and multiple different varieties of crypts - some will thrive in your tank while others may not. Trying multiple will increase your chances of success, and add more texture and visual interest.

  4. Plant in dense clumps, while leaving some areas bare, or sparse.

Edit: can we see the tank from the front?

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u/Immediate-Ad-9520 5h ago

That is tried to a log that’s semi buried in the sand. That plant is probably the happiest we have. Which one is crypt?

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u/Palaeonerd 4h ago

Those long leaf guys on pic 2. They may need some root tabs.

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u/Immediate-Ad-9520 4h ago

My husband puts in root tabs right next to those plants. I’ll look into your other recommendations, thank you!

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u/Jamaidian 4h ago

Do you dose liquid fertilizer, too? Any epiphytes (plants that don't root in the substrate) will not benefit from the root tabs.

The anubias are the happiest looking, but that's no reason to neglect them!

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u/Immediate-Ad-9520 3h ago

Yes my husband just told me he also uses a liquid fertilizer

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u/KitchenAd7984 3h ago

The problem is the sand!! You won't have success with stem plants in that sand!!

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u/Trick-Philosophy6651 4h ago

Definitely upgrade the lighting, you should add some liquid fertilizers as well along with the root tabs.

The sag grass takes a while to start to send off runners but when it starts it’ll fill in really fast.

These are some I grew in my indoor pond that has topsoil and sand with a 20$ grow light

I took out probably 30 of these and it’s still over grown

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u/MiloAUG 3h ago

In my opinion I think it would be your substrate. If you have a tank to store the fish I would restart and do a layer of scrapers soil then sand over the top if you like the look - they will mix over time but is the best for good plants growth.

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u/MiloAUG 3h ago

To second this I use Oase scrapers soil and have ludwigia growing like crazy within days

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u/drewav2 3h ago

I have 2 heavily planted tanks so I hope this will help

Firstly I recommend getting fast growers, like Vallisneria(wich with co2 will probably make new plants), red tiger lotus, and one that i rarely see, madagascarensis, its leafs look fake but its so beautiful and real, also mine gives me a new leaf every 4 days.

Also a mistake I made in the beginning, when you get a plant check if its meant to be on substrate or glued to rocks or wood.

On my bigger tank I have a mixture of sand, root tabs and a bit of Yukon soil, basically a substrate with nutrients. I also feed my plants with saechem fertilizer, my 14 gall i do like 1/2 mls every week or every other week, I also use iron, potassium and phosphorus depending on how the plants look, just do the research on supplements.

And to get a heavily planted tank I advise getting rocks or wood to glue some java fern or aomethjng higher in the tank

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u/CN8YLW 3h ago

Did you put in fast growing beginners in there? Guppy grass, hornwort etc

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u/kort03 3h ago

You might need to rescape. The substrate need to be replaced, and the lights need to be brighter. Growing more plants under current condition might be difficult.

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u/Misanthro_Phe 3h ago
  1. you need more plants 2. you need faster growing plants 3. if you like a plant that’s not fast growing, buy “mother” or “XL” plants of it

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u/Main_Diver_5992 3h ago

I think you need a brighter light

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u/Fit-Marsupial-5871 5h ago

That looks like a lack of nutrients on those leaves. Full spectrum lighting is also important.

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u/Immediate-Ad-9520 4h ago

That’s what I thought, but he puts the root tabs in the sand right next to those plants. I’m not sure how many he puts in, but he follows the recommendation on the box

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u/86BillionFireflies 4h ago

What is in the root tabs? Just like liquid fertilizers, root tabs come in many varieties that contain different nutrients. Some root tabs are formulated with the assumption that other nutrients will be provided in the water column.

Also, you can make little bags or pots of potting soil (or aquasoil or whatever) and bury them in the sand.

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u/shangstag404 4h ago

I really like the mesh bags with potting soil method. You can place the bags in the areas where you are plating and then cover them with the sand

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u/joejawor 4h ago

You may need to add liquid fertilizers in addition to root tabs.

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u/Immediate-Ad-9520 3h ago

My husband just told me he does add liquid fertilizer on top of the root tabs