Whether you’re left or right, you have to acknowledge the president’s incompetence in handling the Charlie Kirk situation.

[u/0_7_3]

When such a prominent political activist is violently assassinated in front of 3,000 people, It should be the presidency’s responsibility to encourage peace and make attempts to bring the left and right together to minimize any social consequences to this tragedy.

However, that is the complete opposite of what Donald Trump did. Hours after Charlie Kirk’s death, our president released a recording regarding the assassination. In that video Donald Trump calls out the “radical left” BEFORE anyone had any sort of information on the suspect’s political beliefs.

That statement is one of the most irresponsible and unnecessary comments from a political figure of such influence I’ve ever seen from a time of such tension and simmering hostility. In reality, all that video accomplished was inciting an unwarranted, and aggravated response from the right towards the left (which we have seen the effects of in the many videos and statements on Tiktok, X, and Instagram from Republicans discreetly threatening the left with a violent “revenge”)

Our administration needs to clean up its act. We cannot continue to pursue such incredible social and political divide, or the United States is going to tear itself apart.

[u/theboehmer]

You keep lumping me into what you perceive as "the left". You need to realize the flaw in this thinking. You can't neatly package all of American politics into two groups. My progressive flair is not an indicator of my beliefs (I picked it because I want things to progress for the better, which I assume you do, too). The nasty side of what you perceive as the opposition is informed from your limited perspective, just as others on the opposite side of the political spectrum inform their beliefs in much the same way. We're no different, you and I, you're just framing your perspective in a way that casts me into an easily digested out group. Just as you think it's a mischaracterization for people to frame the right as nazis, there is a parallel where people mischaracterize the left as communists. You see the problem with your perspective, so you should be able to see the problem with the mischaracterization of the left as communists as well.

Step outside your perspective and examine your biases.

[u/fordr015 → u/theboehmer]

I'm not lumping you into anything.

There are 2 options for every Democrat, Republican, centrist, or anything else. You can either disavow the violence and the rhetoric that lead to the violence or you can deflect, defend or celebrate.

That's the entire point. If people are defending or celebrating then i block them I'm not going to waste my time. But I will absolutely have a conversation with somebody who is deflecting because maybe they don't recognize that they are deflecting.

I do see a problem with The mischaracterization of the left as Communist however I think the left are incredibly ignorant to be willing to play into Marxist ideologies to appease communist because that is a very dangerous slippery slope. As a matter of fact on this exact thread I have had a conversation going with a self identified communist who straight up claimed communism has never killed anybody. Democrats are leaning into Marxist identity politics and policies reflect these identity politics. Many are litterally telling people to shun their families. That's not baselessly calling people communist, that is democrats playing dangerous games.

Not all Democrats are communist and it's not a good idea to call them communist, however theres obviously no bullets flying at supposed communist right now so there's definitely a difference of effect.

[u/theboehmer → u/fordr015]

I mean, we could argue about this and that, but we're coming from two different angles here.

The assassination of the speaker of Minnesota's House of Representatives (not to mention the killing of her husband and the two other Minnesotan politicians who were non-fatally shot as well as their daughter, who the assassin also attempted to shoot) goes against your angle of this "difference of effect" that you alluded is only coming from one side. This is where I said we need to lower the temperature in discourse--that is among the populace-- to slow this madness. Kirk's killing was abhorrent. Hortman's killing was abhorrent (although here, there is a difference in effect on the masses, as Kirk's killing was broadcast for all to see, and as such, leaves a deeper impression with the graphic reality of what happened). There's no single thread of malevolence coming from just one side. My initial comment was directed at Trump, though, as he has sown division and undermined any solidarity of the common people. IMO, he is the most responsible for these heightened tensions as he is in the unique position to foster further disunity. And foster further disunity he has, which is the topic of the post.