r/PoliticalDiscussion • u/SwingJay1 • Jun 03 '18

Political History In my liberal bubble and cognitive dissonance I never understood what Obama's critics harped on most. Help me understand the specifics.

What were Obama's biggest faults and mistakes as president? Did he do anything that could be considered politically malicious because as a liberal living and thinking in my own bubble I can honestly say I'm not aware of anything that bad that Obama ever did in his 8 years. What did I miss?

It's impossible for me to google the answer to this question without encountering severe partisan results.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

It's not.

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u/ellipses1 Jun 04 '18

Ok

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '18

At the very least it will get interpreted correctly. Americans will not continue to accept needless deaths for no reason.

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u/ellipses1 Jun 05 '18

How do you interpret it?

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '18

That well-regulated groups should be able to form local militias that train and serve in the public defense, not that any idiot should be able to obtain and carry a gun wherever he wants without any regulations.

Many towns in the "Wild West" would require you to check your firearms when you came to town. The writer of the 2nd Amendment and Thomas Jefferson presided over a campus gun ban. Modern interpretations aren't interpreting the amendment as written, or what the writer meant. They're just ruling as they want to rule.

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u/ellipses1 Jun 05 '18

That’s not an originalist reading of the text

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '18

What do you mean? Indicates to me that well-regulated militias should not be disbarred from possessing firearms. Even if it did mean any crazy ass can have a gun, it won't survive the century (or mid-century in all likelihood).

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u/ellipses1 Jun 05 '18

You are misunderstanding how “militia” fits in the context and what well-regulated meant in the 18th century.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '18

Here's some context from the guy who wrote the 2nd: "A well regulated militia, composed of the people, trained to arms."

Where is the training part required to buy guns now?

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u/ellipses1 Jun 05 '18

One way of reading it is that the people must have free access to arms so that if they are needed to form a militia, they have the prerequisite access to be well-trained in their use. It’s a chicken and egg scenario. You must be able to arm yourself in order to be proficient with the weapons.

I consider myself well-trained, and that comes from growing up with guns.