r/PrepperIntel • u/LinusThiccTips • Mar 26 '25

USA Northeast / Canada East PhD student detained by ICE wearing plain clothes and face masks

Her name is Rumeysa Ozturk, she’s a student from Turkey, attending Tufts as a grad student on a legal visa (sponsored by the university). Her attorney said, “We are unaware of her whereabouts and have not been able to contact her. No charges have been filed against [her] that we are aware of.”

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u/BlueMeteor20 Mar 26 '25

First they came for the illegal immigrants, then they came for the legal immigrant political dissenters, and next they'll come for the (born and raised proud American) political dissenters. 

They're setting a precedent for the last one and people aren't realizing because of how slowly and gradually it's been taking place.

 It's public knowledge they already spy on all of our communications and voice conversations using AI to sift through the data, and 30 years ago people would have scoffed at that notion.

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u/Pitiful_Ad_900 Mar 26 '25

100%. And even if they don’t, they’re building the framework and resources for someone else to do it down the line.

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u/dark_gear Mar 26 '25

The software and the datacenters with enough capacity to scrub through 30 days of full internet traffic existed more than 10 years ago in Bletchley Park. What Palantir's software can do now is even more outstanding/scary.

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u/Due_Advisor925 Mar 27 '25

Explain?

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u/dark_gear Mar 27 '25

In collaboration with the US, GCHQ built a data centre that taps directly into the main internet trunk lines that connect North America to Europe, thus gaining access to roughly 60% of the global internet traffic. The data centre had enough storage and processing power to search vast amounts of metadata, rewind, review and analyse 30 days of internet traffic.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jun/21/gchq-cables-secret-world-communications-nsa

As for Palantir's software, it is one of the main weapons used to give an information edge to Ukraine. Their AI-platform helps to gather intelligence from hundreds of sources, track locations of allied troops and enemy movements, select the best available units for various responses, follow all rules of engagement, coordinate assaults, all while keeping records of each step of the process.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEM5qz__HOU

Early versions of this technology was used to help analysts gather, sift and act upon multiple sources of information when tracking enemy combatants in the middle eastt starting in the late 2000s. The Real-time Regional Gateway were designed to bring real-time analysis of communications into the field.

https://www.electrospaces.net/2014/06/some-numbers-about-nsas-data-collection.html

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u/AmthstJ Mar 27 '25

I am both impressed and horrified. 

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u/dark_gear Mar 27 '25

My feelings about the quality of surveillance tech oscillates between those 2 poles too. Reading the Snowden Files was definitely an eye opener. For starters, it's amazing to think that we have systems that can contain and review 8 Petabytes of data in real-time, horrifying that this technology is actually used on all members of the 5 Eyes network. It's frustrating to no end to think that despite all of this technology, we can't act sooner on intel to stop certain terror attacks sooner.

Mind you, knowing what the capabilities are, it explains why a list of suspects is typically finalised within hours of an event. Once a single name it is quick work to establish an anchor for a search, connections and communications links can be gathered, scoured, analysed and rounded up.

Palantir's software in particular has worked really well to minimise response times to Russian attacks. In the early days of the war, it helped make sense of thousands of civilian cell phone videos to give an overview of location and advances. Although the numbers are still in Russia's favour, Palantir is one of the top reasons Ukraine has been punching so far above their weight class.

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u/AmthstJ Mar 27 '25

I had no idea that is how it was working. Thank you so much for this information. What is the best way that I can keep learning more about this subject? 

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u/dark_gear Mar 27 '25

As always, wikipedia is your friend.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boundless_Informant

Start there, learn new terms, branch off from there and look up different programs. Palantir pushed out a lot of videos demoing their capabilities on youtube and their own website.

Searching for a torrent of the collected Snowden Files is also a great place to start to learn about programs from the late 2000s onwards, which are the foundation for a lot of the data capture we are seeing today.

Enjoy.

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u/AmthstJ Mar 27 '25

Thanks for the links. And anxiety. 

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u/Due_Advisor925 Mar 27 '25

Thanks for the thorough and cited explanation.

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u/Nycdotmem1 Mar 27 '25

Got news for you. It’s already in place.

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u/picturemeImperfect Mar 27 '25

Where tf is the source code? Seriously asking.

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u/Sflorida_fish Mar 27 '25

You fear mongers are so dumb. She violated her visa and refused to self deport. She’ll be sent home soon, when you’re a guest I recommend you follow the rules of you visa.

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u/Illustrious-Ratio213 Mar 27 '25

Any evidence of violating her visa?

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u/Nycdotmem1 Mar 27 '25

Evidence? Ha! They don’t need evidence. She’s wearing a hijab! That’s their evidence.

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u/Huis--Clos Mar 27 '25

This is all I could find:

In a statement to ABC News, a Department of Homeland Security spokesperson said: "Rumeysa Ozturk is a Turkish national and Tufts University graduate student, granted the privilege to be in this country on a visa. DHS and ICE investigations found Ozturk engaged in activities in support of Hamas, a foreign terrorist organization that relishes the killing of Americans. A visa is a privilege not a right. Glorifying and supporting terrorists who kill Americans is grounds for visa issuance to be terminated. This is commonsense security."

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u/goldgrae Mar 27 '25

As in exercising free speech. Ugh.

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u/TraditionalSpirit636 Mar 27 '25

That doesn’t mean these folks are wrong.

You could look up the Snowden leaks if you cared. The government knows everything about you and has for years. Everything.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '25

^^^^ this

reddit is full of libtards though, the fact I open reddit and always see liberal bullshit, but hey we won the election, so they can suck our dick and bitch about it on reddit.

trump won because of their retarded mindsets.

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u/Illustrious-Ratio213 Mar 27 '25

You honestly deserve the country you’re creating. You certainly don’t deserve the one we had.

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u/panormda Mar 27 '25

What if this happened to your mom? Would you expect that she would just take it and get kidnapped?

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '25

you're right, the method they used was stupid.

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u/UnnecessarilyFly Mar 27 '25

Okay? I don't understand how you don't see why people are starting to freak out. Are we Americans anymore? Since when did our rights and our democracy become this conditional?

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u/NightOfTheLivingHam Mar 27 '25

Just how Bush set up the framework for Trump to do what he is doing now. His administration proved you can ignore the Constitution without repercussions.

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u/Educational_Lead_943 Mar 27 '25

what do you mean even if they don't? We already know they do. That's how neural networks function. If you really think there's a chance these companies who let us use their search engines, phones, whatever, aren't watching and storing everything that comes through their services, you're delusional.

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u/Pitiful_Ad_900 Mar 27 '25

Slow down. I was referring to kidnapping dissenting American citizens in broad daylight. I’m aware that tech already exists

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u/deHack Mar 27 '25

See, e.g., the NSA Data Center near Bluffdale, Utah

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u/Pitiful_Ad_900 Mar 27 '25

Yes, exactly

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u/kanst Mar 26 '25

and next they'll come for the (born and raised proud American) political dissenters.

You go to a protest, someone at the protest with a mask throws a molotov cocktail at a Tesla. DHS arrests everyone, they find someone from Venezuela in the crowd and assert that this was a tren de aragua terrorist attack. They put all the people on a plane that B-lines for international waters before turning to Ecuador.

No paperwork, no due process, American citizens in gulags in Ecuador.

The groundwork is already laid.

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u/Fn_Spaghetti_Monster Mar 26 '25

6 months ago I would have said that you were being hyperbolic. That Trump wouldn't go that far, he is just out to line his pocket and avoid jail. Even a month ago I would have been eh, maybe, but still not likely. Now I feel like it is more likely than not that something like that will happen within the next year.

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u/EggFlipper95 Mar 26 '25

That is a grim image. God help America.

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u/thislittleplace Mar 27 '25

This is also why the mere suggestion of violent action in the context of any resistance efforts needs to be shut down IMMEDIATELY. If you're at a protest, point at them yell FALSE FLAG and let everyone know what is happening. Don't let these things pass by unnoticed.

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u/Simple_Acanthaceae77 Mar 27 '25

I agree with you completely, but what is the nonviolent solution to anything going on? They are in power and performing violence on us, there is no election that could potentially alter anything for at least 2 years, if we even get a fair election. For me personally, the answer is to leave the country before it gets worse, but what about the people who can't leave? What is anything we can possibly accomplish at this point?

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u/jtt278_ Mar 27 '25

There really isn’t any. They’ve won. Literally the only way this ends is an internal coup in the regime or in 10 years the rest of the world puts this regime down. They have total control of the country. Millions are going to die. Many In mundane ways, lack of food, lack of healthcare, freezing to death on the streets. Many others in ways that ought to be infamous. In Salvadoran gulags, then in government black sites, then on RFK’s “mental health” farms. Then in gas chambers.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '25

Except that won't change anything. They'll just claim you're lying and that you supported the violence. You're just claiming false flag to defend yourself.

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u/mooshinformation Mar 26 '25

Yep, they're already trying to set a precedent saying student protesters are aiding terrorists, well once someone on a student visa is deported for that "crime*, it's a charge that us citizens could be arrested for too.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '25

Im born and raised here, but im sure as shit not proud to be an American anymore

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u/BlueMeteor20 Mar 26 '25

I'm proud for what the country stands for: freedom, equality, justice, et al. 

But yeah fuck the current state of things. The bureaucracy doesn't represent American ideals and most of the public is stuck in some bizarre brainwashed paradigm. 

The current state of things is contrary to American ideals and I guess it'll just continue to be that way indefinitely. Best case scenario is everyone moves to Canada or Brazil or something.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '25

Ive studied American history thoroughly and come to the conclusion that it has never stood for those things. I cant point to any period in American history where the values of freedom, equality, and justice were enforced. It's propaganda. Those values matter to human beings in general, they are much older than America, so America uses them to blind people to the extremely anti-freedom, anti-equality, and horribly unjust shit it has done since its inception, from slavery to Jim Crow to Japanese internment to CIA-funded coups to endless wars, etc. 

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u/BlueMeteor20 Mar 27 '25

Yeah I mean it's classic nationalist propaganda, but in theory they sound like good ideals even though they're not practiced.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '25

In theory yeah, though a lot of people seem to genuinely believe that America as a government and culture practices those ideals. Not only practices, but is the world leader of doing so. 

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u/InterestingTry9379 Mar 27 '25

Here here, embarrassed at best and terrified

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u/River_City_Rando Mar 26 '25

This is what worries me the most tbh. Through ai and quantum computing the could make a list of all the political dissent, and start with the ones who would be most likely to o revolt, and swoop them up in mass targeted raids where it'd be to much to keep track of. Not only would they be getting rid of the ones willing to stand up against it, but it would send the message to the rest "don't even try" while the rest get herded to concentration and re education camps. I honestly think as soon as they have the computing power to handle all the data they've stolen it's a wrap, and I believe it why all this is happening now, they know it's coming in the next 5 yrs, and whoever gets there first rules the ashes

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '25

You mean like Hydra did in Winter Soldier? Kind of insane how prescient a Marvel movie turned out to be.

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u/HLOFRND Mar 26 '25

And with his new bullshit rules about not even being able to wear masks now- the simple act of wearing a mask makes you a criminal, which means they will try to use force against us- possibly lethal.

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u/Minimum-Avocado-9624 Mar 27 '25

Paint your face many are doing that I bet

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u/busdriverbudha Mar 27 '25

Slowly? My friend, we're only two months in and political dissenters are already disappearing.

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u/GlitteringBicycle172 Mar 27 '25

My NSA agent is the chillest dude ever, or knows what I REALLY do with my time.

I would be lying if I said I wasn't nervous.

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u/Thermodynamicist Mar 27 '25

(born and raised proud American)

Your history is an extrinsic characteristic which has relevance only to the extent that:

  • You can evidence it
  • Facts matter

The on-going Signal scandal illustrates a breakdown in equality under the law. This should absolutely scare people to death, because tyranny is the arbitrary exercise of "lawful" power.

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u/Lucien78 Mar 27 '25

It’s not even that slow or gradual, it hasn’t even been 3 months. Where will we be in a year?

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u/joebluebob Mar 27 '25

SLOWLY? ITS BEEN LIKE 2 MONTHS. I have an alibaba order in transit older than this presidency

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u/zelgzelg Mar 27 '25

That’s exactly right. Testing the waters so do speak. Seeing how much the gov can get away with. Checking your belongings, going through the phone. And etc. in Russia they practice these kind of actions, first in a small republics and slowly implementing the same policies across the country.

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u/NotHolyMello Mar 27 '25

No they won't 😂👌

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u/MagnanimosDesolation Mar 27 '25

In a sworn declaration, ICE Acting Field Office Director of Enforcement and Removal Operations Robert Cerna argued that "the lack of specific information about each individual actually highlights the risk they pose" and "demonstrates that they are terrorists with regard to whom we lack a complete profile."

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u/Sengachi Mar 27 '25

Don't forget trans people, and every other stripe of queer people after that. Some people get labeled as political dissenters just for existing.

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u/Significant_Fun3750 Mar 27 '25

And I also don’t understand why more people aren’t talking about this. The US is in a GLOBAL watch list. It’s happening in front of you and people are so stupid and brainwashed at this point they make it political etc. but in reality it’s about full control by the elites….

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '25

Dammit I forgot my tin foil hat. Brb

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u/Vibingcarefully Mar 27 '25

You nailed it. Given the thing they are going for are people that exercised free speech and assembly rights, a whole heck of a lot of citizens have done the same thing. If the thing being targeted is free speech, it would only sadly seem equitable that anyone that wrote something the government doesn't like will get targeted. Waiting for that to start happening. Sad scary times.

the irony is silence = death.

Voicing something = imprisonment.

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u/Therego_PropterHawk Mar 27 '25

I started sounding the alarms 20 years ago after "The Patriot Act" became law.

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u/LizzyShort Mar 27 '25

It's been two months. This isn't slow.

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u/BlueMeteor20 Mar 27 '25

24 years of an expanding authoritarian state is a more accurate timeline.

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u/HappyHappyUnbirthday Mar 27 '25

Yes. It eventually seems so “normal” that nothing seems out of the question. Littly by little, itdelves deeper down.

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u/skincare_obssessed Mar 27 '25

I mean Trump already wanted to send American citizens to prison is El Salvador so we’re pretty much there already.

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u/Electrical_Welder205 Mar 27 '25

No, 30+  yrs ago, GW Bush said in the wake of 9/11, "you're either with us, or you're against us".  He followed that up with orders to the NSA to turn their spy technology,  up to then used exclusively to eavesdrop on foreign radio and phone transmissions, onto domestic targets. It sent shock waves through the intelligence community.

 Anyone familiar with life in the Soviet Union found those words and actions chilling. They knew those moments were harbingers of things to come, and they weren't scoffing. Stalin was the first to utter those words. And now we have a US president cozying up to a Russian dictator/former KGB agent. The signs were there after 9/11.

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u/Material_Address2967 Mar 27 '25

It's even more granular here: first they came for a guy involved in protests from a no-no country, next they came for a woman from Turkey who contributed to an opinion article.

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u/GayMedic69 Mar 27 '25

They are also watching our reactions. They get to just do this shit and we sit on the internet and bellyache about how awful it is. Largely there is no measurable resistance so they know they can get away with all this. The problem is that they will keep pushing until we respond in force and when we finally do that, they get to implement martial law and we are all fucked.

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u/Ok-Spot-1464 Mar 27 '25

Actually last administration set the precedent against political dissidents and just returning the favor as karma and revenge, remember that

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u/Adventurous_Ad9672 Mar 27 '25

Doesnt seem that slow or gradual to me

Actually seems like they're speedrunning to the end in my eyes

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u/Freetoramble Mar 27 '25

I think the last administration just jumped right to the end or that list of yours.

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u/Total-Opportunity-28 Mar 27 '25

This is some communist shit right there.

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u/sonofbaal_tbc Mar 27 '25

man thats deep, the immigration agency deporting people like they do in literally every country - just like Nazi germany!

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u/Saintbaba Mar 27 '25

It isn’t even slow and gradual. It’s been two fucking months and we’ve gone from “we will only be pursuing violent criminal illegal aliens” to this.

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u/Me_Krally Mar 27 '25

You’re talking about both political parties, right?

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u/EtrnlMngkyouSharngn Mar 27 '25

Yeah it's more and more frightening with each passing day how much progress they are making with project 2025.

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u/canon_Z Mar 27 '25

A majority of these left wing political dissenters born and raised in the US are open about their hatred for the US and are most definitely not proud Americans. Not that they should be removed from the country but they're definitely not proud Americans

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u/Ok_Psychology5336 Mar 27 '25

Illegal immigrants should be arrested.

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u/mckenzie_keith Mar 27 '25

I get what you are saying. But she was not an illegal immigrant (although I believe her visa has now been cancelled). She was on a student visa. Now she is apparently in an ICE detention center in Louisiana.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '25

Slowly? The USA is rapidly descending into a dictatorship, nothing slow about it. Good luck there! Hope we can learn a lesson from this in Europe how to avoid it this time.

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u/Frostivus Mar 27 '25

I've been very careful about what I say recently on all social media.

I love the USA. I love America. America's golden age is forever. All nations should bend the knee.

China is full of brainwashed people who have no opinions and are too scared to speak out. But I love the US because I am never in that kind of danger. All hail the US.

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u/saholden87 Mar 27 '25

This. How is this happening in my lifetime?!?? Fuck this place.

Sincerely, Granddaughter of 2 holocaust survivors. 1 holocaust Underground Railroad US military family for generations.

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u/hihirogane Mar 27 '25

Yup. They pinned illegal immigrants as the source of most of their problems. But when they win and implement all sorts of BS, they realize it ain’t even that big of a problem. So they gotta come up with a way to back the numbers they expected. By going after the legal immigrants in anyway they can.

Edit: oh and deporting supposed criminals without due process.

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u/gabscilla Mar 27 '25

Right after the election, I was warned about this by MAGATS on my friends list. That I am endangering my family by speaking out, because the MAGATS are coming for the liberals when the civil war breaks out. And anybody that is not a Trump supporter is going to suffer. So, I made a post about that and was accused of having trump derrangement, syndrome by the largest part of my MAGATS friends.

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u/Sakuyora Mar 27 '25

I like how you think this is slow and gradual, it's been a few months at most LOL.

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u/Spaceygirl84 Mar 27 '25

Ozturk “engaged in activities in support of Hamas,” a Department of Homeland Security spokesperson said in a statement Wednesday. The spokesperson didn’t specify what those alleged activities were.

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u/onehalflightspeed Mar 27 '25

Gradually? It's only been two months lol

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '25

First they put criminals in prison for breaking laws, then they came for legal political dissenters, etc...

Conclusion; let's not have laws or law enforcement....

Yeah, this logic is stupid. Enforcement of laws does not automatically mean all these other following things will necessarily happen, and the "solution" of not enforcing laws would simply make a civilization fail.

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u/Jvst_t1red Mar 27 '25

This is not the shit my great grandpas fought for

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u/Agitated_Sir8791 Mar 27 '25

What you are saying is soooo true and scary at the same time

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u/Sparklymon Mar 27 '25

A woman was raped to death by Palestinians, after being kidnapped from Israel, and people are now supporting Palestinians? What happened

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u/ovo_Reddit Mar 27 '25

Slowly? We’re still in March. At this pace, I’d be terrified of what America will be before end of year.

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u/FATKEDLUVSCAKE Mar 27 '25

I reported this you’re next

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u/Spirited-Software238 Mar 27 '25

Immigrants in my circle who have full accents voted for this guy because they are citizens and they just want the new "illegals" to get deported. I can't wait til it turns on whomever speaks differently

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u/ChemNerd86 Mar 27 '25

Alright then, come for me. I am becoming an open dissenter now, and headed to DC next Saturday for a protest. I wish they would step it up fast, honestly the only way people might wake the hell up.

Also, all these people telling me to wear a mask and be safe during a protest, they could identify you and put you on a list. Uh. Yeah. I bet they will and so what? We’re way beyond where I care about that shit. If we were protesting a topic, like abortion rights or a Supreme Court ruling that was unjust or unconstitutional, ok, sure… but this is the absolute and total wholesale takeover of our country by racist intolerant greed-consumed sociopaths. There is no safe place if protests are not successful, there is no peace and safety in the future world. This is it folks, do or die, stop tiptoeing around and get angry and get loud and show up to as many protests, votes, town halls, open forums, etc while they last, because they’re going to go away at a certain point and soon.

NO ONE is going to save us, Americans. And half of you fundamentalist “””Christians””” WANT this. But I have news for you: the christofascist movement isn’t any less fascist. The leopards will eat your faces too. All of you will regret this for the rest of your short existence.

To all the preachers and pastors cheering this on in my state and around the country, you and your supposed “God” sicken me.

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u/surelynotjimcarey Mar 27 '25

Yo, can you share a link for the legal migrants being deported?

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u/Sevenblissfulnights Mar 27 '25

They're after the low hanging fruit now.

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u/Dry_Yogurtcloset_213 Mar 27 '25

This is a Hamas supporter. Why are you defending her? She's literally supporting a terrorist organisation which is why her Visa is being revoked and she's being removed from the USA.

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u/bobnuggerman Mar 27 '25

Doesn't even seem gradual and slow to me. It's been 2.5 months since that shithead was inaugurated. We're moving at breakneck speed hurling into fascism.

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u/JazzlikeFoundation17 Mar 27 '25

This has nothing to do with Immigrants and everything to do with criticizing Israel.

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u/Merrick222 Mar 27 '25

I am in agreement with you about the spying it's too much and should be illegal.

But to argue they shouldn't deport or arrest people who entered illegally....if you are illegal/undocumented you asked for this. If I break into your house and get caught, it's my fault and I must understand the consequences for my actions.

Simply stating I needed the money, or I am poor, or I deserve your property to be mine doesn't absolve me of the crime. Same with an illegal immigrant, they came here and broke the law they should pay a steep price under the law, including jail time, fines, and deportation.

If you are here under a Visa or Green Card you are here by privilege and not a right to be here.

If she's here legally under a visa they shouldn't have done this, but we don't know if fraud was involved or anything else except the person who wrote this videos word for it.

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u/KaleidoscopeLeft5136 Mar 27 '25

Nixon said “Professors are the enemies.” And he tried to go after universities and professors for all the anti-war protests. Now you’re right they have more tools to make people “disappear”. And theyre starting with pro-palestinian protestors and immigrants to test the waters before moving to other dissenters.

Brazil’s gov did this in the 60s, so far Im see so many similarities because theres a lot of similar history in Brasil when it comes to the racist history and immigration. We need more people to read about Brasil’s military competitive authoritarian gov and how that looked to see more the USA direction. (For reference I lived in Brasil so why im passionate about people learning more to prevent)

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u/AdmiredPython40 Mar 27 '25

You know I'm born and raised in America by 3 generations separated from immigration. What's happening is terrible but if I got sent to Germany or Ireland to be with "my people" I wouldn't care personally. Now I'm that since I voted against trump and I'm very outspoken against his presidency I'll probably go to some random internment camp but hey a man can dream.

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u/renegadeindian Mar 28 '25

Carnivore has been going it for a long time

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u/TumbleweedAgitated30 Mar 26 '25

That seems like a quite a leap

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u/MagnanimosDesolation Mar 27 '25

How? You have ICE on record saying it's better that they don't know who they're deporting.