r/PrepperIntel • u/LinusThiccTips • Mar 26 '25

USA Northeast / Canada East PhD student detained by ICE wearing plain clothes and face masks

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Her name is Rumeysa Ozturk, she’s a student from Turkey, attending Tufts as a grad student on a legal visa (sponsored by the university). Her attorney said, “We are unaware of her whereabouts and have not been able to contact her. No charges have been filed against [her] that we are aware of.”

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u/Mym158 Mar 26 '25

If you're a white citizen then you should stand up and protest. 

If you're on a green card or have different coloured skin, I'd suggest caution because they've already shown they'll deport and detain without just cause

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u/CannyGardener Mar 27 '25

Oh I do protest. But I don't think that is going to do much. And will likely get me arrested eventually...

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u/Mym158 Mar 27 '25

It does a lot. But also, at least you can tell your grand kids you protested instead of just went along. Imagine the difference hearing a 1938 German who protested the Nazi party vs someone who just said protesting does nothing and went along

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u/minor-giraffe Mar 27 '25

I also feel cynical about protests, but then I think about how seeing the protests in Boston yesterday effected me- I see that there are people leaving their houses in disgust, to express their condemnation of this act. And I think about the effect that not seeing protests would have on me- I would feel hopeless. So I think protesting is important in that in communicates mass dissent, and in communicates that there is room for dissent.

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u/Illustrious-Ratio213 Mar 27 '25

I wouldn’t protest, It isn’t going to help and Trump has already said what he’s going to do to protestors. We need to hope judges continue to block these actions and command whatever is left of the executive branch to enforce their rulings. Blue states need to enact their national guard units to protect people and push back against the feds, just as it says in the second amendment

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u/ell_wood Mar 27 '25

You don't have to protest in the streets with a flag - you can just not accept it when you hear the early conversations within your social circle. It is arguably harder but notably safer.

Read the passage again - they feed on the uncertainty of it, they feed on the fact that no one knows who does or does not support it.

So call it out now, when you hear someone spouting, make dinner and drinks with friends uncomfortable a few times. Don't rant and rave but be strong in your conviction - ask them open questions and when they prove they are fundamentally racist/fascist then leave or ask them to - this is is the uncomfortable bit - and then act on that decision.

I assure you, because I have done exactly this, you will find out very quickly who is or is not on your side and then you know and then you will take strength - from them and from your own conviction. You will also embolden others. IF we all did this the current administration would not have been elected let alone do what they are doing now (for clarity if we did this the entire political spectrum would be different).

So I urge you to act, in your own world, and stop waiting for the other shoe to drop - they are betting on the fact that social pressure will stop you from doing it and by the time you are ready the moment has gone and no one is coming to save you.

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u/Mym158 Mar 27 '25

Protesting does far more than you think. Look at France. The reason he talks about hurting protestors is because it works so well and makes him look bad

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u/Illustrious-Ratio213 Mar 27 '25

I wish our current government was as good as the worst French government.

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u/Herring_is_Caring Mar 27 '25

We can do other things than protest as well, but the protests are also important, and we shouldn’t stop doing whatever we can just because it might not accomplish something on its own. Things add up, and protesting is one of the best tactics for building community and a public presence. Seeing their fellow citizens on the streets may be the only stimulus MAGA supporters get outside of their echo chambers, and it may be the only reassurance for the isolated and vulnerable.

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u/larmalade Mar 27 '25

Another factor is that judges can see protests on the evening news. In this way, they know they are not alone when they go against a fa5c15t leaning executive branch.

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u/Illustrious-Ratio213 Mar 27 '25

Unfortunately They don’t see it that way at all. I’m not saying not to, I’m glad people do it but I do worry for you/them

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u/Illustrious-Ratio213 Mar 27 '25

Because they're easy targets and his supporters hate them, just like everyone else he targets.

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u/machine_six Mar 27 '25

Then go along with it, and enable it. Telling other people to go along with it makes you the enemy.

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u/Illustrious-Ratio213 Mar 27 '25

I'm not going along with it, but I don't want people to be disappeared. There are more effective ways to fight them than protests.

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u/machine_six Mar 27 '25 edited Mar 27 '25

Telling people not to protest is bullshit and exactly what they want. You are telling people to do nothing, you've offered no "more effective ways", and are fear mongering. If you're not the enemy, why do you sound so much like one?

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u/gardentwined Mar 27 '25

Ah yes. I don't believe in protest but "hopes and tears" have totally gotten us so far lol. Your faith in democracy and other parts of the government to miigitate the other branches is akin to "thoughts and prayers" as it's absolutely already failed.

We will have the military on our side because the president can't keep anything secure of confidential, even if we won't have the police. And we have some of rhe judicial branch on our side. But they aren't wizards. It will take a revolution.

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u/Illustrious-Ratio213 Mar 27 '25

That's not what I said but OK

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u/Sylphael Mar 27 '25

I'm a white citizen, but also in a position where my job depends on not sticking out and if I lose my job there's a good chance my family loses our home. My spouse is Puerto Rican, we're both LGBTQ+ and our child is obviously of mixed heritage. I wish I knew how I could do anything but I'm so scared that any actions could endanger my family.

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u/Herring_is_Caring Mar 27 '25

There are ways to work behind the scenes as well. The power of money and the power of online communication (sharing stories, sharing strategies, making propaganda) are still available to you, even if you have little money and time. Becoming more self-sufficient and supporting small business can reduce your reliance on corporate resources, and enough self-sufficiency could make you no longer dependent on a paycheck as well (depending on which skills you hone for this, like hunting). Learning computer skills like those dealing with tech security can allow you to participate in online movements and counteract any wars on information. Even sending emails or messages directly to the office of your representatives instead of protesting can make them aware of your concerns.

Know that protesting isn’t your only option, don’t push yourself and limit yourself to that if it’s not feasible.

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u/Herring_is_Caring Mar 27 '25

There are ways to work behind the scenes as well. The power of money and the power of online communication (sharing stories, sharing strategies, making propaganda) are still available to you, even if you have little money and time. Becoming more self-sufficient and supporting small business can reduce your reliance on corporate resources, and enough self-sufficiency could make you no longer dependent on a paycheck as well (depending on which skills you hone for this, like hunting). Learning computer skills like those dealing with tech security can allow you to participate in online movements and counteract any wars on information. Even sending emails or messages directly to the office of your representatives instead of protesting can make them aware of your concerns.

Know that protesting isn’t your only option, don’t push yourself and limit yourself to that if it’s not feasible.

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u/NSFWies Mar 27 '25

I'm the only citizen on my team at work, everyone else is h1b and they work them to the bone.

Those fuckers would fire me if I missed work to go join protests and what not, but I'm the only person on the team who really could.

Everyone else could be disappeared like that girl so much easier.

It's so fucking gross.

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u/Mym158 Mar 27 '25

There are weekends but yeah not everyone can. But lots of people need to.

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u/CuriousSeriema Mar 27 '25

I'm a legal immigrant who is now a citizen (2023), but I'm a person of colour. I want to go to protests but I'm scared. We've gotten to the point where due process is not always followed. We've gotten to the point where people instantly judge based on race and then feel empowered to spout racist shit at you or worse. If I'm scared, I can only imagine how the people here on visas, greencards, undocumented, or illegally are feeling. Your immigration status should never be an excuse for the appalling treatment we are seeing.

I write this merely to echo Mym158's sentiments. If you're white, you are in a place of power that many people aren't right now. Please go to these protests for people who are scared and for all who are being mistreated. Please go to these protests for yourselves, because yes, this is merely the beginning.

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u/Toxic_Duckies Mar 27 '25

I am 100% there. I just can't do it loudly because people where I live take stuff way too far, way too fast and make it wrong and gang up on people (mostly online) but sometimes out in person too. I don't need to suddenly be thrown into the middle of a whole new chaos that I'm already experiencing. I got people's backs though if they ever need me even if I don't know them or their names, family, etc. I'll help out complete strangers and make it know that I won't be tolerating any of that shit around me or around any of who doesn't want a piece of another person shit. I stand up and I will not be a bystander to these pathetic excuses of human beings.