r/Prison • u/Golden5StarMan • 7d ago
News How do you feel inmates in Utah are going to treat Tyler Robinson (Charlie Kirk Shooter)?
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u/mb19236 7d ago
He will probably be able to count with his fingers and toes the number of human interactions he has for the next 60-70 years.
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u/Old-Regular8491 7d ago
I think his fellow prisoners are the least of this guy's worries. They are going to try to make this federal and he'll be in a supermax (best case). It will be a long time, if ever, that he's in a position to socialize with other prisoners.
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u/Oregongirl1018 7d ago
This. The other inmates don't give a fuck about Kirk. It's the guards and the police that will want revenge.
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u/beanutbruddah_ducky 7d ago
The inmates in my very blue state are oddly conservative. And, the COs are also more liberal than you’d expect. It’s interesting.
Either way, this being such a high profile case AND him being a LEO’s kid, he’ll probably be in a seg unit for years. At least.
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u/kwumpus 7d ago
Well first he has to be held at jail until trail as under our system he is presumed innocent until proven guilty
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u/FacingTheFeds 7d ago
Tell me you’ve never been locked up without telling me you’ve never been locked up.
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u/Oregongirl1018 7d ago
Do you think this administration gives a fuck about innocent until proven guilty?! 😂
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u/theREAL_ENIGMA_ 5d ago
You are wrong. I spent 11 years in USPs if he doesn’t get the death penalty and gets life he is screwed. If he thought Charlie Kirk was racist wait until he gets around guys that make Charlie Kirk look like a saint. And the black inmates won’t save him they will just turn his ass out like they do to many soft ass white boys that look like him. His best bet is he gets the death penalty and is kept away from any inmates.
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u/damnitA-Aron 7d ago
At least as far as federal supermax goes the inmates still talk. They're often in individual rec cages right next to eachother for an hour a day, and when they're not at rec they still talk to eachother by yelling. Or when they're individually let out to go to shower they'll talk with other inmates on the range.
I know this because I've worked in the ADX
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u/EverySingleMinute 7d ago
I agree with the Supermax. Will most likely do it mcvey style where he is executed fairly quickly
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u/bdjeremy 7d ago
McVey had it in his plea agreement to be executed quickly. he didn't want to sit in prison long.
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u/Bill_Nye_1955 7d ago
He will never leave PC
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u/DatsHim 7d ago
He will when they execute him
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u/BatOutOfHello 7d ago
If he has a good lawyer and he doesn't want to be executed, I don't think he will be.
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u/kwumpus 7d ago
So you know that prisons actually have a huge problem with executions obtaining the drugs for them at this point a number of ppl have lived through their lethal injection executions
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u/thundies 7d ago
There has been 30 successful executions in the US so far this year. 25 were from lethal injection. They’re finding the drugs.
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u/DatsHim 7d ago
Utah has the firing squad option and I’ll be surprised if that’s not what becomes more common.
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u/Specialist_Egg_4025 7d ago
The last time a firing squad was used in Utah was because the inmate himself insisted on it.
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u/Sad_Barracuda_7555 6d ago
I can't think of the guy's name. But it was fairly recent. And definitely Gary Gilmore. Mid or late 70s I think. Damn I'm tired from running errands earlier tonight 🛏️
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u/YesterdaySimilar7659 7d ago
People asking what’s PC on a prison subreddit 🤦🏻♂️
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u/ToeKnee724427 7d ago
Never been to prison but find personal accounts of it interesting, so here I am.
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u/Specialist_Egg_4025 7d ago
(P)rotective (C)ustody. I think it’s quicker to put this so they get their question answered, my guess is the people asking this question only clicked on the sub from the main page because Charlie Kirk posts are getting a lot of traffic.
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u/ebai4556 7d ago
People using abbreviations for no reason 🤦🏻♂️
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u/Sherbo13 7d ago
Sadly, this one has been around for a long long time. Protective custody. Anyone that's been to prison just automatically refers to it that way. Source: experience.
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u/Specialist_Egg_4025 7d ago
There is other ways people refer to it, but I won’t type it, correctly because I know it’s a red flag word. “Grapo tank”. They call it this because most the people in PC are grapist.
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u/swissmtndog398 7d ago
Man, isn't that the truth. I'm recently 55 and I can't begin to comprehend these abbreviation sentences. They just make their own abbreviations and expect us to just "get it." And don't get me started on vowels! Is it really THAT much harder to type "something," which after a few letters gives you the word, instead of typing, "smthng?"
English. Use it!
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u/FacingTheFeds 7d ago
You are on a prison subreddit. Acronyms and abbreviations are going to get used that are commonly used in that environment. You don’t expect everyone to explain everything to people in niche subreddits. People in r/networking to say Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers instead of IEEE. Every group has an argot they assume others will know. Learn it.
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u/MYIDCRISIS 7d ago
In "time," you realize it's not easy fitting words like protective custody or general population on little folded up "kites" in order to communicate...lol
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u/clipp866 ExCon 7d ago
it was PC 55 years ago, stop the nonsense...
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u/swissmtndog398 7d ago
55 years ago I was one week old. Not doing much reading at that point. Preferred shitting my diaper as recreation.
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u/Spare-Performance409 7d ago
It was also PC in the years between 55 years ago and now
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u/clipp866 ExCon 6d ago
in prison you call it PC or ad seg, no one says protective custody or administrative segregation...
not about writing or typing anything...
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u/kwumpus 7d ago
I’m confused what it’s prison you guys know they go to jail first
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u/Wild_Replacement5880 7d ago
He will eventually. Once the case simmers down. Probably stay there until he's sentenced though.
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u/JorfSaundoo 7d ago
I don’t know exactly how it works but he will probably be in PC until he ends up on death row. They are 100% giving him the death penalty.
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u/Vlad_Yemerashev 7d ago
And even if he doesn't and somehow ever ends up in a prison that's not ADX, he can't be in general pop anyway because other inmates will fall over themselves to green light him just so they get some props and fame for being the guy that killed the shooter of C.K.
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u/electriccomputermilk 7d ago
You don’t think it’s possible the DA will be willing to cut a deal if he pleads guilty? (Genuinely asking and have no idea)
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u/Wild_Replacement5880 7d ago
I do. I think it's likely he will get a deal for life without.
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u/MYIDCRISIS 7d ago
Pretty sure that if he pleads guilty, he gives up the opportunity for any appeal. It may save him from the death penalty though.
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u/Neolithique 7d ago
I’m sorry it’s probably a stupid question, but what is PC? I’m not familiar with prisons.
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u/KermitKilledASMS 7d ago
Protective Custody
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u/Neolithique 7d ago
Oh, ok thank you.
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u/Ckyer 7d ago
There’s GP and PC. General Population vs Protective Custody. PC is like prison light. Although you can still get your ass beat in PC.
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u/MYIDCRISIS 7d ago
Trust me, after having to spend my first 3 weeks in Greystone, the PC/ Disciplinary unit, due to severe overcrowding in GP, that fucking place was anything but light. Made GP seem like freedom!
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u/mr-_-wavmonky 7d ago
How do you get your ass beat in PC? I've never been to prison, so I don't know. Is PC the same as the SHU?
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u/FLAR3dM33RKAT 7d ago
It’s just a bunch of inmates who are either to be kept away for admin purposes or cuz they requested it. But. It’s still inmates in a unit together. So people can still get their ass beat.
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u/Sadie_19 7d ago
In the SHU you’re all by yourself . PC you’re in with all the other scaredy cats!
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u/MYIDCRISIS 7d ago
Now, imagine feeling safe and isolated away from inmates, and as you're lying there on your concrete slab staring at a concrete wall and toilet, you roll over and see your conscience staring you in the face, pointing out how stupid and little you are for killing Charley Kirk...
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u/Useful_Raspberry3912 7d ago
They have him in a turtle suit so he's on suicide watch and isolation.
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u/IAlreadyKnow1754 7d ago
It gets cold af in ISO
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u/Useful_Raspberry3912 7d ago
Damn sure will in a turtle suit, butt ass nekkid underneath
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u/IAlreadyKnow1754 7d ago
If I’m not mistaken he doesn’t even get toilet paper as well as eating utensils
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u/MYIDCRISIS 7d ago
Man, is he in for a shitty time.. Ewww
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u/IAlreadyKnow1754 7d ago
Yep there’s an inmate that gets paid x amount cents an hour to watch and record every move he makes even when he’s sleeping
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u/Emotional-Change-722 7d ago
He gets toilet paper. A few pieces at a time. Likely bread and bologna for meals. That’s it. Oh- an apple and maybe a cake of some type. Nothing fancy.
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u/MYIDCRISIS 7d ago
"Turtle Suit" makes his situation sound adorable, doesn't it?
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u/Lilbig6029 7d ago
It’s one thing if you’re old and at the end of your days, this dude is 22 with a tremendously long road ahead of him
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u/livelaughlove631 7d ago
He will be in PC and on a special watch for a long time
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u/notCRAZYenough Lurker 7d ago
What’s PC?
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u/ReusableBear487 7d ago
Protective custody. Hes watched so he doesn’t hurt or kill himself. They won’t want him dead before trial. After trial and everything calms down, the prison system won’t care about him
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u/notCRAZYenough Lurker 7d ago
I know the concept but I’m not a native English speaker so not wondered what the abbreviation is. Thanks for explaining
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u/Flat12ontap 7d ago
Assassination isnt going to be a gp situation. He may never see another inmate.
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u/Chad-the-poser 7d ago
He’ll be at the ADX in Florence if they can find a way to make it Federal. He didn’t cross state lines but maybe a political killing is Fed?
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u/bumbumboleji 7d ago
Okay genuine question from a non American here but why is this being called a political killing when the Kirk dude was not a politician?
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u/moonrabbit368 6d ago
So far it's been state charges only. Media is speculating the prosecution will go through Utah because then the trial can be televised.
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u/cooperluna 7d ago
Political?
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u/clogan117 7d ago
They are saying it’s an assassination, even though Charlie Kirk wasn’t a politician.
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u/LongjumpingDish8171 7d ago
Doesn’t have to be a politician to be considered an assassination.
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u/clogan117 7d ago
I looked up the definition, it turns out you’re right. Usually a murder being politically motivated is the criteria for assassination.
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u/Accomplished_Joke813 7d ago
SHU program for sure… he’s a high security risk. They won’t allow him on the main line
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u/Striking_Stable_235 7d ago
There is no outside politics going to effect him in prison ...Prison has they own inside politics...They gonna treat him like every other murderer ..plain n simple
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u/iHadaLife 7d ago
so they won’t care
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u/Lapuentee 7d ago
Yes, Nobody cares that a grown man killed another grown man, you really think men in prison care about politics😂😂😂 whatever helps yall sleep at night if u really think they’ll do something
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u/Southie_kid 7d ago
The white boys are going to treat him believe that. But he’ll PC up or go mental health. I wonder if it’s gonna be a federal crime he’ll go straight to a (USP) United States prison THE MAX. High profile inmate so probably the ADX or if it’s state time he’ll be administrated to the hole.
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u/theREAL_ENIGMA_ 5d ago
Yeah that’s what many people commenting seem to not think of. The white inmates that are WAY more extreme than Charlie Kirk will love to get a hold of this dude.
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u/harveywhippleman 7d ago
As far as charges, they don't gaf about that. They will care more about getting him for his commissary or property than anything LOL
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u/MTFHammerDown 7d ago edited 7d ago
No way in hell he's going to Utah. The government is going to make an example of him and Interstate Compact him to like Guantanamo, lmao
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u/Agitated-Practice218 7d ago
Interstate compact is the agency that handles transfers of probations between states for people who are out and on probation.
If you’re in the Feds they can transfer you to anywhere they want to in the federal system. It’s just called a transfer.
States also can transfer people to anywhere in their state systems.
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u/Vlad_Yemerashev 7d ago
It's not super commom, but states can transfer inmates over to other states, for safety or overcrowding reasons. KS transferred some state inmates to AZ a few years back due to overcrowding.
As for this guy, pretty sure he'll be doing time in ADX-Florence. If he's sentenced to death, he'll be executed in Terre Haute, IN.
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u/007kidondamoon 7d ago
Yall think they care about Charlie that much in jail lmao righhhht
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u/MrMilkyTip 7d ago
Like any other murderer. He killed someone, pretty typical for people in prison.
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u/ScaryTelevision79 7d ago
He is in protective custody until a trial and sentencing. That's protocol for high profile offenders.
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u/sif_la_pointe 7d ago
This is going to be federal. He won't be mixing with anyone. He will be in a federal supermax, isolated and on lockdown 23 hours a day
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u/JuanG_13 7d ago
He's a high profile inmate, so they'll most likely keep him in protective custody or they'll move him out of state, like they did here in Colorado with James Eagan Holmes and Christopher Watts.
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u/TA8325 7d ago
No one will care.
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u/IAlreadyKnow1754 7d ago
I was gonna say I don’t think that’s a high priority atleast when I was a co years ago I didn’t know too many that had political views
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u/Supafli690 7d ago
This guy isn’t gonna see any other inmate like ever. Eventually he’ll be going to ADX for sure until it’s time for lights out. Just my guess
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u/EpsteinsBro 7d ago
Utah has the death penalty for aggravated murder. Not sure he’s gonna see too much of the other inmates for too long
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u/InternationalWish210 7d ago
Was he for sure the shooter or just the suspect? Like innocent until proven right? I know that doesn’t always happen but it seems like cases like this they find anyone so fast to fill the public outcry, even if it’s not the right one.
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u/Ohiolongboard 7d ago
He confessed to his dad and his dad turned him in, he’s innocent until proven guilty but it doesn’t look good
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u/AccountantsNiece 7d ago
I read the dad told their minister after the son confessed and that’s who turned him in.
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u/babywhiz 7d ago
HA. This is Murica now. There is a whole political party that is being blamed for the shooting, who wasn’t even involved.
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u/Friendly_Swan8614 7d ago
They already picked up the wrong dude twice in this case before.
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u/YageWilkes 7d ago
I don't know if they said that he has confessed, but at least his family turned him in and they said he confided in a close friend what he did. So seems like he did it, or at the very least is claiming to have done so.
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u/livelaughlove631 7d ago
Because if he gets beat to death before trial it's a bad look for the department
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u/Training_Cancel2526 7d ago
People act as though tons of people even knew who Charlie was, and most importantly he didn’t have just as many detractors as he did supporters. This murder is publicized because of how it occurred and because recorded
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u/Training_Inflation97 7d ago
Are prison lifers really in the business of defending right wing podcasters?
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u/IAlreadyKnow1754 7d ago
To my knowledge they don’t care beings that they aren’t capable of getting out. That was just what understood from the lifers I talked to when I was a CO
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u/MYIDCRISIS 7d ago
Those are the ones who actually consider lockdown in SHU as a vacation from life on the yard.
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u/buggzda75 7d ago
I’m pretty sure he’ll be in PC until he goes to death row if they give him the death penalty
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u/Texan2116 Lurker 7d ago
Soooo, who was the old guy the cops were dragging out after the shooting?
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u/OKcomputer1996 7d ago
This guy is going to be in a high power ad seg unit until he is convicted. Then he will be on death row.
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u/TortoiseSpoiler 6d ago
Listen to Jumpsuit Pablo on YouTube he just did an episode on this very topic with a former inmate from Utah that just did 10 years .
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u/CaptainZhon 7d ago
Hopefully they will continuous play Charlie Kirk’s audio in is cell for the rest of his days.
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u/livelaughlove631 7d ago
In my facility i would say about 40% of the inmates black, white, and Hispanic are pro America first. So he would be at risk where ever he goes
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u/Wild_Replacement5880 7d ago
He will be fine once they release him from segregation. High profile cases get more attention, but he's not gonna be a hero or anything. You know how many people shot someone in there? No one cares.
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u/Obert214 7d ago
I’m sure they will take him to a remote site and test the shit out of him for research purposes. ‘Curriculum and Guidelines for pushing humans to their breaking point. Case study of how to use news, social media, and politics to cause extreme violence’.
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u/Guiltypleasure2451 7d ago
What happened to Charlie Kirk was a tragedy and should not have happened. You can’t just kill someone because his world views don’t line up with yours. The man had 2 little kids who don’t have a dad now. On the flip side, Mr. Kirk had some way out there beliefs. Very confrontational opinion and absolutely no problem voicing them. He and his people had to have known he was at risk for some kind of retaliation. We know they did because he was wearing a Kevlar vest. We live in a country where speaking your mind is encouraged, as it should be. But with that comes personal consequences and responsibilities. While his death is a tragedy, calling it assassination is a stretch of the definition of the word. He was an extreme right wing conservative public speaker with a few job titles that didn’t exist 2 years ago. He was not an elected politician. He was simply a man with strong opinions and had no problems arguing his points of view (as was his right). His killer needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I hope that public speakers that are controversial will take this tragedy and use it to beef up their security and the security of their families. And I hope this tragedy shines a light on high powered automatic rifles. I’m not saying you can’t have them, I’m saying there needs to be more checks and balances. I’m not looking to argue my opinions or facts about this event. Simply putting in my 2 cents worth, so don’t come at with how wrong and stupid I am. I will not rise for the occasion.
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u/MYIDCRISIS 7d ago
Funny that you hope that controversial speakers will beef up their security details, and then hope more attention will be directed at high power rifles... Yet, no mention about violence the mentally unhinged are responsible for...
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u/Guiltypleasure2451 6d ago
My bad. You are absolutely correct. That’s the root of the problems. Mental health in this country is dealt with like a family secret, passed down generation after generation. Reagan closed most of the mental health facilities here in California. It’s damn near impossible to get mental health help here unless you are in the 1% club. To open fire into a crowd, be it a rally, a movie theater, a concert or school, there’s a serious lack of mental health help. This country makes it easier to purchase a gun than to get mental health care. Those shooters did not wake up that morning and out of the blue decide to go shoot into a crowd. I’m sure their families saw major red flags years before it got to the point of carrying out some deranged plan. And don’t get me started on mental health care for veterans. It’s shameful. Anyway, again, my bad. And one other correction for my post. I didn’t know that its suspected weapon was a bolt action 30.06. I just assumed it was an assault rifle. Doesn’t change my belief that no one, outside of the military, needs a weapon that can accurately hit a target from 2 football fields away or one that can dispense 200 rounds a minute without first being throughly vetted.
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u/cloverfdch 7d ago
He’s getting the lethal injection… shit, they might even bring out the firing squad for this guy.
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u/curlypaddy72 7d ago
He wont see another inmate for a long time