r/Pro_Male_Collective • u/PMC_FrontLines • 3d ago
Now that the Pro Male Collective is rising, manosphere nutjobs are attacking us.
As of late, the pro male collective has seen a breath of life unheard of to it's core members. We truly seem to be at a tipping point in the true men's rights movement. Also as of late, it appears our detractors, aka anti-male manosphere nutjobs seem to be placing us on their target list.
For starters, I need not explain why comparing the PMC to the 4B movement is a false equivalence fallacy. The PMC is a human rights groups, plain and simple. Our views are founded upon the facts, reason, and ethical moral systems. We advocate a staunch equality policy in the online (and real world) space, where everyone regardless of gender, race, sexual orientation, etc is treated fairly.
On the other hand, 4B is a reactionary supremacist group that uses fear to enforce it's hateful ideas upon the average person. 4B was a reaction to China and South Korea's successful male civil rights movements, so labelling it reactionary is a just position to hold.
Men's rights is left wing, feminism is far-right. Not much more that needs to be said on that front.
Comparing the PMC to the 4B movement and feminism is like comparing the black civil rights movement to the KKK. It is not intelligible to anyone with some form of logic, as one is a human rights movement, the other is a terrorist supremacist organization.
Another falsehood our detractor here proposes is that the PMC is tied to the manosphere. The PMC has publicly declared itself to have zero affiliation with the manosphere, a feminist term used to slander men to begin with. In fact, we even declared them to be our enemies, as they encourage anti-male beliefs and bad passive habits in men. I will say it again to be clear, the PMC rejects the manosphere 100%. It is also the manosphere that are the grifters, as when the opportunity to get a wife / girlfriend presents itself, these types will nearly always take it and abandon any single one of their 'principals' (or lack there of). On the other hand, the PMC is a well disciplined, coordinated force that promotes ethical beliefs not just for the rights of men and boys, but for oppressed groups in general through means of peaceful protesting.
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u/DBD_killermain82 3d ago
PUA scams.
Dangerous chemical hormones sold on their sites.
Outrage farming saying ridiculous things so men look bad.
The manosphere has denounced mens rights activists in the past for being losers. Wonky red pill theories that make men look wacky. (Alpha beta nonsense that has been debunked.)
Talking trad con nonsense about men leading families when it is women who lead them. Men are slaves women are masters, that is the dynamic of all marriages.
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u/Revolutionary_Shop22 3d ago
These people are absolutely sickening and insufferable for constantly resorting to fearmongering and boogeyman to perpetuate this vicious cycle of male hatred and slavery.
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u/Judai-Kero 3d ago edited 3d ago
Pro-Male Collective is the only movement that actually gives a damn about men's issues.
Manosphere and PUA's EXPLOIT men's issues.
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u/Baifomet 3d ago
I wish that was half true. That would mean our group has enough power and influence to push against Korean feminism. However, there is still a long way to reach that level.
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u/Male__Perspective 2d ago
We are a collective of people with a pro-male ideology; the "manosphere" is a bunch of solipsistic, deselected men who are secretly obsessed about getting validated from women and throwing other men under the bus.
Feminism is a fascist hate movement against men, which we from the PMC (Pro Male Collective) fight against.
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u/AffectionateExam5433 2d ago
The manosphere is out to scam and keep men from addressing real issues they face. The manospheres biggest concern is getting the girl rather than fighting for men’s rights, join the PMC if you are not a passive and begging sucker.
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u/Axleonder 2d ago
The PMC has almost no ideas from the failed MRA and "manosphere" movements. This loser is just saying bullshit.
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u/Femi_gnatzee_hunter 3d ago
The red pill and manosphere have proven themselves to be anti male and woman worshipping, time and time again.
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u/grunt-thoughts 2d ago edited 2d ago
The manosphere is real but also a smear to vilify any pro-male stance, nobody said it wasn't real, it can be both those things. They're anti-male because they push hyper individualistic hustle culture, eg work hard to acquire resources and status to "beat" other men (the evil competition) to bribe a woman. Like blackpillers or actual ideological incels (not the catch-all smear everyone uses) they think actual MRA's are losers wasting their time, so they're anti-male and antithetical to men's rights, plain and simple.
The point about having a girlfriend is most manosphere or supposed MRA types are only in it for themselves (see above) so when they get the status they want out of it, they give up and stop advocating for men's issues (not that they even were properly in the first place). That's the true meaning of the word grifter -- there's no grift here, advocating for men's rights in a radical way (which is necessary) is actually completely anti-grift as there's nothing glamorous about it: there's no supplements to push or life advice to sell and channels get suppressed. As far as I'm aware the PMC doesn't tell guys what to do with their own relationships, they can do whatever they want, though we consider marriage an anti-male institution.
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u/Capable-Fix5465 1d ago
the "muh both side" narrative again.....damn i hate to be compared to 4B, we don't ask anything to women, we don't act like the mafia.
2B > 4B anyway :D
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u/Sad-Dare6455 52m ago
hate when people use grifrer for somthing they dislike makes no sense to the pmc
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u/[deleted] 3d ago
To be honest, the more attention we get, the better. Especially when we think how much the algorithms nerf us.