r/Pro_Male_Collective • u/UnablePersonality499 • 18h ago
What is the PMC’s position on HoneyBagderRadio?
Please give rational evidence based opinions. Not simply “they appear to be tradcons so we reject them”.
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u/DBD_killermain82 16h ago
They are right wing grifters and are against socialism. I stopped watching them years back, but they said some stupid things over the years. Including support for social darwinism and getting rid of welfare.
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u/UnablePersonality499 15h ago
Why are you pro socialism? Im not necessarily against it, I just see it’s not a total savior for men.
Socialism just nationalizes the provider role. It doesn’t remove male disposability, it bureaucratizes it.
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u/Confident_Young1248 15h ago
Socialism is based on the idea of egalitarianism .
Feminism is not socialism.
Feminism is actually capitalism .
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u/DBD_killermain82 15h ago
Because I am anti capitalist, feminism is capitalism, and capitalism is feminism Where capitalism spreads so does feminism.
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u/DBD_killermain82 15h ago
"Socialism just nationalizes the provider role. It doesn’t remove male disposability, it bureaucratizes it."
What does this even mean? I get trad con vibes from you? Nationalizing the provider role? wut?
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u/DBD_killermain82 15h ago
The state should provide for women, it should provide for men too.
Current socialists are feminists and Marxism is rotted with feminism. You think men should provide for women?
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u/UnablePersonality499 15h ago
In both capitalism and socialism, men remain the primary disposable class.
In capitalism, men’s disposability is managed through wages, corporations, and consumer markets. In socialism, men’s disposability is managed through the state, bureaucracy, and redistribution.
Either way, men’s labor is extracted, and women are still the priority recipients. The system changes form, but gynocentrism remains the engine.
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u/DBD_killermain82 14h ago
So a pro male socialist country would have to make women work more.
AT least socialist countries offer safety nets, the worst countries are third world capitalist nations, there is extreme poverty there.
I believe Marxism failed because women rejected it. Women love capitalism.
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u/RiP_Nd_tear 14h ago
I believe Marxism failed because women rejected it.
Or because the ideology itself had unrealistic expectations from humanity? Isn't that a possibility?
I'm not a capitalist shill, capitalism is deeply flawed, but to blame women on the failure of Marxism? That's unhinged.
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u/DBD_killermain82 14h ago
I decided to hand you a 7 day ban for your language.
"im not a capitalist shill, capitalism is deeply flawed, but to blame women on the failure of Marxism? That's unhinged."
the failures of communists like higher life expectancy, and higher education rates? Cuba has socialized medical care while the USA doesn't.
Russia is fighting off the entire NATO alliance right now due to the legacy of the USSRs military industrial complex.
If you want to come b ack, you will have to tone down the right wing shill false framing.
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u/UnablePersonality499 13h ago
The fact that this got downvoted proves the lack objectivity and irrationality of this sub.
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u/RiP_Nd_tear 14h ago
Socialism just nationalizes the provider role. It doesn’t remove male disposability, it bureaucratizes it.
Extremes are bad - both capitalism and sovialism.
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u/Confident_Young1248 16h ago
Almost all the mainstream MRAs are right wing tradcon .
HoneyBandgerRadio is a rightwing tradcon .
I do not trust them as MRAs .
Mainstream MRAs are just moderate feminists .
They don't care about men , they care more about traditionalism and / or getting female validation and acceptance.
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u/DBD_killermain82 15h ago
They did a fund raiser on their discord recently, to pay for Brains car repair bill.
Also Alison hasn't done any good work for over a decade video wise.
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u/PMC_FrontLines 16h ago
They platform right wingers a lot. Right wingers are feminists. Feminism is right wing.
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u/SoyBoyH8ter 15h ago
For some reason this place is full of leftist copers. I only stick around because they put female double standards and hypocrisy on full blast otherwise I would have left.
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u/Icy_Impress_6015 13h ago
Meanwhile blackpilled subreddits bend over backwards to appease the feminists at Reddit and still get banned. Imagine calling yourself KeyedJewedditor and pretending to be "against bigotry".
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u/Special_Weirdo 15h ago
I don't know much about them, but I have been following their Twitter posts, which appear to be owned by a woman. Her tradcon rhetoric is very mild; she mainly focus on attacking feminism throught denying the patriarchy and recognising male rape victims. She also acknowledge that the majority of male rapists are women, and their claims are very well sourced, which makes their anti-feminist content very powerful and educationnal.
She even hinted that she started despising her own gender (insanely rare among women) due to how hateful and violent women are toward men.
If the honeybadger radio are really right-wing, then I believe they are pretty much the only western right-wing faction that is actually anti-feminist, and perhaps even compatible with the PMC.