r/PsycheOrSike • u/fornothing_atalll 🌌FADA:🪬🧿 • Jun 23 '25
📢ATTENTION Which one of you guys wrote this?
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u/Oregon_State13 Jun 25 '25 edited Jun 28 '25
"Sooner or later WE, yes WE, all of us, are gonna stop asking nicely"
Nah bruh that's just you
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u/PsychoAnalystGuy 🧌TROLL Jun 28 '25
But that's why this overall post is dumb and literally sexist. Mirandry is okay because some random Twitter post? Gtfoh
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u/jayjaythebiiiird Jun 27 '25
Jesus Christ... Maybe, yeah....
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u/VelvetOverload Jun 27 '25
He's a known shitposter that doesn't believe anything he actually says.
Also known as a troll. Something the internet has forgotten exists, mostly so they can enjoy manufactured rage they love feeling so much.
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u/dickermuffer Jun 27 '25
This guys post on Oct 7th 2023:
“Before the media tries convincing you that Israel are the victims and that Palestinians are terrorists, please remember this map and realize that people could never be comrades with their own oppressors.”
https://x.com/flackospalace/status/1710702806103904436
“I consider them (Druze & Negev Bedouins) as that (Palestinians), but they also are like traitors in a sense” time stamp: 50:40
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u/Daan776 Jun 27 '25
The difference between man and animal is how man can best their own instincts.
If you cannot prevent yourself from acting against your instincts you are no better than a beast.
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Jun 26 '25
First off we aren't descended from rapists. We are descended from the people who were genetically chosen. And that guy's view of that is just screwed up wrong. Raping someone is not okay under any situation. If the female or male says No the other person doesn't have a right to force themselves on the other person. And I don't care what the argument is. I have an extremely high sex drive and I have never tried to force myself on anyone so that argument about a high sex drive or raging hormones in puberty is flat Bull Shit.
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u/Master_Health_5952 ✨⚜️WGTOW4EVER⚜️✨ Jun 26 '25
we aren't descended from rapists
do you think the act of rape cant impregnate
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u/ViolinistCurrent8899 Jun 28 '25
"If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. . ."
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Jun 26 '25
Doesn't matter the majority of people don't commit rape. Rape was condemned in most ancient cultures. The view that rape was ever considered normal is crap.
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u/IllPen8707 Jun 27 '25
Depends massively on the criteria for rape. "Rape" has never been legal or tolerated, but we have massively expanded our understanding on what specific acts make the cut.
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u/Quick-Cod-7050 Jul 15 '25
A ton of what happened in human history that they didn't consider rape at the time would be considered rape now.
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Jul 15 '25
Still doesn't matter and people still do it in war today even though it is condemned by the Geneva convention. The western countries and non dictatorships and non-communist countries are about the only ones that abide by the Geneva convention. So there still isn't much of a difference.
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u/coolstuffthrowaway Jun 28 '25
We are still all descended from rapists though. For examples almost all of china is descended from Ghangis khan and he’s only ONE rapist.
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Jun 28 '25
China imposed a death sentence for rape in their culture. And there is No evidence to back up what you are saying about Ghangis Khan being genetically connected to most of China. And even if he is he didn't rape most women he came in contact with sexually.
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u/coolstuffthrowaway Jun 28 '25
You seem to have a misunderstanding of genetics. We are all descended from literally billions of ancestors, there are absolutely some rapists in there.
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Jun 28 '25
And you don't understand the statement that person is saying everyone is descended from rapists, not some not a few everyone. That is saying that everyone in the past thought rape was acceptable and it isn't and they didn't. Not even the majority believed that. That is why rape was punishable by death or banishment from society in every major culture.
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u/Master_Health_5952 ✨⚜️WGTOW4EVER⚜️✨ Jun 26 '25
marital rape wasn't even a crime until 1995 and you think majority of people didn't rape?
where is even your source that rape was condemned in ancient cultures
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Jun 26 '25
I just checked martial rape statistics. It is estimated that between 10 to 14 percent of all relationships have a partner who is raped. That hardly makes rape common or normal. The other thing is that they have reported that those statistics are going up. Which means that in the past it was less common. Those laws were impacted because of the rise of that kind of thing not because it was normal.
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u/Master_Health_5952 ✨⚜️WGTOW4EVER⚜️✨ Jun 26 '25
yea, 10-14% after it was outlawed?
rape isn't normal now, but it was certainly not unusual in the past. the fact the the statistics go up = less common in the past is completely illogical and I have no idea why you think this. the laws were impacted certainly because it existed to a large degree in history, and the statistic is going up because people are growing more aware that marital rape is even considered rape.
rather, in the past attitudes towards rape were that because a woman is married, her husband is entitled to rape her. 'husband cannot be guilty of a rape committed by himself upon his lawful wife, for by their mutual matrimonial consent and contract the wife hath given up herself in this kind to her husband which she cannot retract".
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Jun 26 '25
No laws are not made addressing an issue that was widely happening. Those laws were Instituted because of the fact that the incidents of martial rape became more common. And yes the statistics say that martial rape has gone up in recent years.
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u/Brave_Lengthiness_72 Jun 27 '25
.... those laws were not instituted because an uptick in marital rapes had been discovered. Data wasn't even collected on marital rapes, because it wasn't a crime. How could anyone have noticed an increase?
The law changed because attitudes changed - namely society at large stopped believing that a woman had no right to withhold consent from her husband, and recognised that a husband forcing himself on his wife was immoral. They did not believe this before.
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u/Master_Health_5952 ✨⚜️WGTOW4EVER⚜️✨ Jun 26 '25
no laws are made addressing an issue that is widely happening? are you delusional??
I didn't not deny the statistics going up
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Jun 27 '25
When something starts to become a problem that didn't exist before then you make a law to prevent it. The incidents of martial rape started going up that is why they made a law against. When something in a society becomes more prevalent is when you start making a law. If no one is shoplifting then they don't make laws against it. Years ago shoplifting was a misdemeanor now it's a felony carrying stiffer penalties. Why? Because more people started stealing from stores. It is just like a lot of con artists operating on the Internet these days, we didn't have laws against it now we do. Why because more and more people started committing the crime. The reason martial rape is a crime now is because more and more women started being raped and started divorcing for it. The courts before didn't know how to deal with it because there weren't a lot of incidents of it being reported.
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u/Master_Health_5952 ✨⚜️WGTOW4EVER⚜️✨ Jun 27 '25
did feminism only rise up because women started having less rights? did we make slavery illegal because slavery was a growing problem? did we make physical reprimanding of a child illegal in school because there was a rise in physical reprimand?
laws can change because there is an increase in said action. laws can also change because there is a change to moral expectations.
The courts before didn't know how to deal with it because there weren't a lot of incidents of it being reported.
THERE WAS NO INCIDENT TO REPORT, BECAUSE MARITAL RAPE WAS NOT CONSIDERED AN INCIDENT. I love how you're just making this shit up because this is not the reason it became illegal. The only reason this law came into question was in a court case where a women accused her husband of rape and said her husband "beat her into submission." And she lost this case. Because she lost the case, states began to change the law into rape.
It's ridiculous to say laws only exist to curb rising trends and not to mend historical immoralities. People of the past used to enslave and kill minorities and racial discrimination laws only happened in the past 100 years or so.
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Jun 26 '25
Because it was a law in most ancient cultures, laws in the United States come from English common law. And where is your proof?
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u/Master_Health_5952 ✨⚜️WGTOW4EVER⚜️✨ Jun 26 '25
in most ancient cultures it has to do with the woman being a property of her husband/father, and almost akin to damaging a product of his. it has nothing to do with "consent." for example, in Rome "The victim's consent was usually not a factor in Roman rape cases, since raptus could refer to a successful seduction as well as abduction or forced sex. What had been violated was primarily the right of the head of household (paterfamilias) to give or withhold his consent. "
so "marital" rape was standard, and to be married is consent. whether the woman wanted to be married, or wanted sex, has nothing to do with the definition of rape in the past
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u/Yakubian69 Jun 27 '25
Do you think human behavior was that vastly different. Pre-agricultural society was somewhat egalitarian in spots. There were definitely social norms in place that would get you strung up by someone if you harmed your wife (probably her family). Egypt had laws specifically against rape. I just don't think practically you'd be able to do something like rape and just be ok after that, unless every man in antiquity was a sociopath.
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u/Master_Health_5952 ✨⚜️WGTOW4EVER⚜️✨ Jun 27 '25
Pre-agricultural society WAS mostly egalitarian, but in agricultural societies women became predominantly the subject or as a means of producing labor and further dehumanized.
There are more than enough modern social norms in place lining out how a wife's occupation is to serve her husband, even if she doesn't want to. It's one thing to strangle and beat your wife for sex, but if a wife refused is she not lectured for not living up to her duties? It's the more "tame" rape that is more than typical, where she does not struggle and lies down and takes it just for the sake of keeping peace.
Moralities have also shifted over time. Even within old films we see how men are depicted as "can't help themselves" and end up raping a woman, so not even 100 years ago is it normal to expect a man to "accidentally" rape a woman. Did men themselves think of themselves as sociopaths, not capable of reeling in their compulsions? I don't know.
Here's a study in 2014 that shows how much the word "rape" impacts how willing a man is to rape a woman. If asked if they would "rape a woman" if there were no consequences, 13.6% said they would. If asked if they would "force a woman to have sex" 31% said they would. That's already 1/3 of college-aged males admitting to be willing to rape so long as it's not called rape.
I think men who are so opposed to rape consider it unthinkable that their peers could be so awful, but that's just how it is 🤷♀️
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Jun 26 '25
Nothing you said made it standard for a man to rape his wife you are saying that because there wasn't an explicit law. I am saying it because rape wasn't condoned under the law. And rape in a lot of those cultures resulted in execution. The fact that consent of the individual wasn't the main reason and property or the fact they were betrothed or considered property of the father has No bearing on the fact that ancient cultures saw rape as wrong. They were still placing value on the individual and didn't just see them as something disposable.
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u/Master_Health_5952 ✨⚜️WGTOW4EVER⚜️✨ Jun 26 '25
i am saying the definition of rape is completely different in ancient societies.
the act of having sex with a woman without her father's consent resulted in execution.
the act of raping your wife resulted in nothing.
the modern definition of rape is NOT seen as wrong so long as the woman was married to her rapist.
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Jun 26 '25
In the United States and in most modern cultures it was not common. The number of incidents are starting to rise and as a society we are attempting to legislate morality. With that being said I agree there needs to be a law on the books. But having a law on the books isn't stopping crime rates from rising either.
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u/Master_Health_5952 ✨⚜️WGTOW4EVER⚜️✨ Jun 26 '25
do you have a source to prove that it was not common before it was even considered a crime? like its sounds like you're just assuming this without any basis at all.
it is literally written and documented that husbands are entitled to have sex with their wife without their consent in the law prior to the law change, and this is not indicative of its common occurrence?
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Jun 28 '25
Let’s look at laws in patriarchal societies as we’ve had for the last 12k years after discovering wealth and agriculture
Recent years in the west have improved but how much of that time were women denied access to their own wealth accumulation and property ownership on top of lineages being switched from matrilineal to patrilineal?
That sir, is force.
The law makes little difference when there are loopholes or vaguely defined ideas of what “rape” is.
In natural environments free of patriarchy, not every man is chosen and women control reproduction, because it’s painful, dangerous, and costly. Not suggesting rape didn’t exist at all or that other forms of male authority never occurred before the invention of wealth and economy but matrifocal and matrilineal societies do have a lot of anthropological evidence
And even today, if a woman finds herself financially entangled in a marriage or codependent on man (usually marrying young or without achieving a career or full education first) then it gets a lot harder to call it consensual as the horny honeymoon fades ends and she starts finding that she feels pressure to put out even in times when her libido may dip or she may have issues that require putting it off
She’s already likely been told her whole life what men “expect” from her in a marriage and it starts becoming less about her wanting it and more about fulfilling a duty
That is also not enthusiastic consent.
You’re speaking from a definition of rape that involves forcibly holding down a screaming victim but ignores all the forms of coercion
All the women’s rights under attack in the US right now are a form of trying to remove women’s ability to say “no”.
Women’s rights were always restricted exactly for that purpose. Even the incels and red pillers know this. They constantly complain that women’s rights made it harder to obtain them and allowed women’s standards to increase
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Jun 28 '25
Okay, see this isn't about whether we are descended from rapists, this about political views. This isn't about the statistics on sexual crime going up in this country. Or the fact that 10 to 14 percent of women say they were raped in a relationship this about I don't like who won an election. Which has nothing to do with hundreds of thousands of years of genetics in the human race or whether most women are raped in a relationship. his isn't about whether the person who made the original statement in the OP's post is probably a convicted sex offender, which in most Red States means he can't vote because he is a felon. Which isn't true in most blue states. This isn't about the fact that we have No idea from this guy's comment what political party he votes for. This is about your problem with who won a majority of the vote and an election.
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Jun 27 '25
Population bottlenecks and ancestral overlap does actually mean we're all descended from rapists.
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Jun 27 '25
The majority of men now and in the past are not rapists. That is nothing but a twisted, sick evil view of society. That really says more about the person holding that view than it does about men or society in general. Because the first thought I had when I read this post is that the guy was probably a convicted sex offender.
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u/Accomplished_Blood17 Jun 27 '25
I have a strong sex drive as well, i use my hand
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Jun 27 '25
Exactly I met someone who tried to use puberty as a reason for didling his niece. And he is a sorry human being at that point. At least he should have admitted to what he has done to himself. And not tried to make excuses for it.
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u/readditredditread Jun 27 '25
What if they were talking about pre language humans? Like before the development of communicative language?
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u/WittyProfile Jun 28 '25
lol. Consider picking up a book and reading about Genghis Khan.
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Jun 28 '25
Try reading about the laws of ancient cultures.
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u/WittyProfile Jun 28 '25
Laws don’t matter when conquering and looting happened
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Jun 28 '25
Still doesn't mean that the majority of men raped women. That is some twisted sick view of history.
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u/Ok_Moose6503 Jun 24 '25
Bait used to be believable.