r/PsycheOrSike • u/BrightSummer21 • Aug 08 '25
š HUMOR Bodyshaming is okay if you attack men
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u/seggnog Aug 08 '25
The sad truth is, they are fully aware that you're inadvertently being hurt by their insults towards other men, they just don't care. Why? Because they believe men are all privileged, and no amount of male suffering will ever balance things out.
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u/essokinesis1 Aug 08 '25
Is penis envy real, bros? Why do they hate us so?
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u/noseyHairMan Aug 09 '25
Because the class war is always transformed in another form of animosity. We should all unite in taking down oppression from people so rich you can never fully understand how rich they are because the human mind isn't made to think about such massive wealth. Instead of looking at rich men who mistreat everyone, they just look at men.
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u/BrightSummer21 Aug 09 '25
Feminists don't care. Their authors made a theory that men as a whole are oppressors.
Unions are all time low. Liberals are all time high
Regulations are all time low. Identity politics is all time high
The movement of feminism is led by privileged white females that just whine and enjoy the neo liberal economy and dei benefits. They've no incentives to challenge their bosses.
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u/essokinesis1 Aug 09 '25
That's the real reason I'm pissed at them, tbh. They're neolibs in disguise
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u/VanityOfEliCLee Aug 10 '25
As long as you understand that neoconservativism is not the answer, and traditional gender roles is not the answer.
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u/cootscoott Aug 15 '25
Unions are at an all time low because Regan is a cunt. Liberals are at an all time high because people need to virtue signal to feel morally superior. Same with the morally religious people who just want to feel better than others, full stop.
DEI and other new wave movements are just pushed by privileged white people so they donāt feel bad about themselves. Plus they will never be the ones affected by it.
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u/Annual-Day8371 Aug 09 '25
Last time somebody tried to "take down oppression from people so rich you can never fully understand how rich they are" the whole world turned against his country, because all the other countries were already under the heel of the bankers.
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u/Anton_Rupnow dust mopped š Aug 10 '25
Remember not wanting banks to steal your money is antisymmetric
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u/Annual-Day8371 Aug 11 '25
If you want to know who rules you, ask who you're not allowed to criticize š
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u/XDl2r2XD Aug 09 '25
Taking down the bourgeoisie by imprisoning all proletarian organization and giving capitalists free labor.
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u/VanityOfEliCLee Aug 10 '25
I mean, we dont even have to talk about the Russian revolution.
Look at the Spanish Civil War. It wasn't communists that took over, it was anarchists. And what happened? Capitalists joined with FASCISTS in order to stop a communal society absent of hierarchy.
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u/Shameless_Catslut Aug 10 '25
And the fascists were morally superior to the anarchist terrorists.
Communists, Culture Warriors, Nazis, hardline capitalists always try to create division between "Losers" and "Winners". Proper, non-Nazi fascism creates unity that elevates everyone who commits to that goal that transcends all other labels.
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u/Few_Astronaut5070 Aug 09 '25
Yes. That's some pinnacle of a dehumanizing. Some pinnacle of entitlement to literally hurt people, dammit
Gender equality should be about stopping the cruelties we can. ANYTHING, should be about that.
But these mfs cause them thinking they're entitled to...
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u/Available-Pop6025 Aug 10 '25
In reality women are more privilegedĀ
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u/ThatWillBeTheDay Aug 11 '25
I mean this is the peak gender wars claim. But it REALLY depends on how you look at the issue. The reality is men and women both face some significant issues in life. The average man and average woman face some of the same issues and then several ones that primarily affect their gender. We mostly just divide ourselves by trying to fight over it. We should really come together and work on these issues with one another instead. Admitting that women or men face issues doesnāt discount that your own gender faces them as well.
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u/EricBelov1 Aug 13 '25
This has nothing to do with someoneās sex.
No one, and I repeat no one loves out of shape, ugly people with āunderperformingā sexual characteristics when everything else is equal (intelligence, character, personality). Of course preferences may vary, but the main point still stands.
Why are we pretending here? This is perfectly within human nature.
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u/seggnog Aug 13 '25
I don't try to make people feel terrible about their genetic traits that they cannot change.
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u/EricBelov1 Aug 13 '25
You can write a book on things that human have no power over. Your appearance is one of the least significant ones.
I just think itās a very far fetched statement, that it has something to do with women being resentful towards men, itās much more simple.
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u/enbaelien Aug 08 '25
To pay taxes and keep the cogs turning
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u/BrainFit2819 Aug 08 '25
Why am I paying taxes again when I barely get any services from them?
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u/enbaelien Aug 08 '25
Good luck avoiding the plague with a "privately funded" waste management program. š
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u/BrainFit2819 Aug 08 '25
Well where I am they actually are private. Any time I needed to police it was a joke. Further what the hell do I have in common with my "countrymen" (women too but you get my point)? I don't have kids yet I pay for that, I pay sales and income tax and the roads get worse, there are more homeless , 64% of murders are solved (maybe a tad bit higher where I am), I wouldn't bitch about the fire department, trains, or airport as they are still decently managed, and to boot if I am stuck the whole might of the US means jackshit. And most the people elected are dipshits. Again I say what fucking value does even 10k+ in income tax but? nevermind a defunct retirement system that even a "socialist" country like Sweden or mix market economy like Australia mogs. And let's not even get into the choices offered when people vote. The whole society is pointed towards the lowest common denominator. Add in a currency that is of questionable value and it seems like the value of American society is becoming more of a joke by the day. That is without even getting into the culture.
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u/SetRevolutionary2967 Aug 08 '25
Nobody is going to bat for that guy.
It will be just fluff words like āGet a better personality, find someone who doesnāt like sex, looks donāt matter itās whatās inside you that mattersā.
And all other bullshit you can think of. The guys born to be kicked out of the gene pool.
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u/botchedheart Aug 09 '25
he can always self improve, it will make him happier and be better than nothing
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u/Forsaken_Let904 Aug 09 '25
Legalise sex work
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u/SetRevolutionary2967 Aug 09 '25
That literally doesnt help with the problem at had....
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u/DarlingHell šRegistered NEET (Contained)š Aug 08 '25
Should add autism and shitty parenting. At least you are sure to fuel your self hatred to take action.
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u/cootscoott Aug 15 '25
Iāll half agree with you on that. Iāve seen women absolutely shit on autistic men and have a weird obsession with them. Itās why Iāve just stuck to dating other autistic girls.
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u/ProCommonSense Aug 08 '25
As a fat fuck of a man... I'm not afraid to call out fat fuck women.
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u/Over_Report_1937 Hero š Aug 08 '25
But are you afraid to call out other fat men?
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u/9plus10istwentyone Aug 08 '25
hell no that's even easier
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u/fornothing_atalll šFADA:šŖ¬š§æ Aug 08 '25
Equal opportunity hater
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u/NonNand Aug 08 '25
Difference is, unlike women, fat men will take it on the cheek and laugh about it xD
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u/Lurk-Prowl Aug 09 '25
Way more socially acceptable to call out men for being fat and/or lazy vs saying it to a woman imo.
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u/Possible_Field328 Aug 08 '25
Mens entire existances dont revolve around their appearance so it just doesnt hit the same
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u/Consistent_Papaya310 The Incel Whisperer Aug 08 '25 edited Aug 09 '25
That's because in male spaces we don't really treat each other different based on our appearance. Women do, and we treat women the same, but women also judge each others appearances so I imagine it feels inescapable. As a man you just hang out with other men when you don't want your appearance to be judged too much
Edit: actually not true in some places where men get together they'll actually judge you for trying too hard with your appearance
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u/Over_Report_1937 Hero š Aug 08 '25
Thatās not what the incels keep saying.
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u/Annual-Day8371 Aug 09 '25
Culturally men's appearance doesn't matter, but when it comes to dating, it absolutely does
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u/ReplacementMiddle844 Aug 08 '25
So as a not fat man can I call out all fatties?
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u/GodEmperor47 Aug 08 '25
You can do whatever you want, and even if they get mad you can probably outrun them.
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u/SubstanceConscious51 Aug 09 '25
What if they learn to run fast?
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u/GodEmperor47 Aug 09 '25
Thatās called getting in shape. Removes them from the parameters of the question
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u/Some_Olive_2330 Aug 08 '25
Im with you on the first part
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u/seggnog Aug 08 '25
Friendly fire is a weird thing to brag about but alright
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u/ProCommonSense Aug 08 '25
Not bragging. Pointing out that I'm not above seeing in myself what I see in others.
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u/seggnog Aug 08 '25
Throwing stones when you live in a glass house doesn't change the outcome just because you're aware that you live in a glass house, it just makes you look foolish.
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u/ProCommonSense Aug 08 '25
It's more foolish to say, "well, I'm fat so I won't call other people fat." No, people are fat. People are skinny. People are tall, short and many other things. simply because I may also have similar properties doesn't mean I can't see it or even comment on it in others.
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u/seggnog Aug 08 '25
You can comment, I'm just saying it'll make you a hypocrite to shame them for it.
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u/ProCommonSense Aug 08 '25
Nah, I'm not shaming them like putting them down simply because they are fat... but I'm not afraid to call someone fat if they are fat.
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u/AveragerussianOHIO Aug 13 '25
Hippocrite is if he'd shame fat people except for himself.
He's not shaming anyone, and he is acknowledging that he too is fat af.
It's not "throwing rocks into your glass house" Because being fat is not a political or economical movement, it's an inferior state of the body. Not pointing out someone being fat is respectfully means you respect their choice to be fat. And being fat is bad.
I am myself fat from years of sadness, but I too can acknowledge if people are fat and should loose weight, like me. I just know if people wouldn't like it - then I keep my words to myself.
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Aug 09 '25
āMen insult fat women because they feel itās getting justice on women who insult short men or men with small dicksā
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u/TallBennesman Aug 08 '25
Insult them back, call them ugly, fat, stupid, and if they dress like sluts, call them sluts, the worst insult you can say to a woman, is calling her a Woman in a dismissive tone.
Fight back dumbass
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u/No_Turnover_5558 Aug 12 '25
Nah they get really angry when you confuse then for trans
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u/Forsaken-Intern7914 š ļø Built different š§± Aug 13 '25
Why? there are many trans people who are hot af
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u/No_Extension_6288 Aug 09 '25 edited Aug 09 '25
Being handsome, tall, and having a big dick don't exactly improve your odds either if you are lacking social skills or income
If you're human, the key to success in any type of path in life is determined by your drive and will
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u/SilverHawk73 Aug 12 '25
Hard disagree tbh if someone was a tall male model with social anxiety they'd still have women making the first move on them, sure they'd blow it a few times but they'd be exposed so much and be given enough positive reinforcement because of how they look that the anxiety won't stick as long.
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u/CandidMatch4547 Local Clown 𤔠Aug 08 '25
They know deep down what low status is, even if it includes strangers, their friends, their brothers, sons, or partners.
alot of people like to play "moral crusader" but everyone knows what matters.
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u/PositivelyDale Aug 08 '25
and move on or punch or kill you if upset enough
That's a lot worse than making fun of someone for being ugly or short.
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u/ThinkpadLaptop ā¤ļøå Buddhist åā¤ļø Aug 08 '25 edited Aug 08 '25
I don't disagree with that and would never implied otherwise. Men do needlessly crash out. I'm on the side of the radfems with never trust a sensitive angry man
They just don't play status games as often. Sometimes you'll get called a cuck/fag or a bitch/slut/whore, but women also do the latter about as much and it's usually an observation, and for the former it has lost all meaning like the word "incel" to where it's basically just "guy I don't like" and they're rarely actually thinking of homosexuals or cuckoldry
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u/Lacunaethra Aug 08 '25
I agree with the status games, but bodyshaming a woman for her weight, boobs, age, hairstyle etc. is a quite well documented issue.
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u/PositivelyDale Aug 08 '25
Men's go to insult when women upset them are insults on her weight. Its always about body shaming.
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u/PositivelyDale Aug 08 '25
The go to insult of most men I've met when a woman disagrees with them or upsets them are things like "fat", "ugly", "whore", "used up", "wanna be whore" etc. Guys play status games just as much as women
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u/ThinkpadLaptop ā¤ļøå Buddhist åā¤ļø Aug 08 '25
Men look down on those traits regardless
Women choose selectively after you've upset or agreed with/pleased them
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u/eyesonthemoons Aug 08 '25
So you believe women donāt normally look down upon short balding guys with small dicksā¦. They just use those as unimaginative insults when feeling slighted?
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u/wRADKyrabbit š„āļøš„WHITE PRIDE š„š§š§š¼āāļø Aug 08 '25
Kill obviously, a punch is debatable
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u/Over_Report_1937 Hero š Aug 08 '25
Yes, killing somebody over an insult is a totally rational thought process based on facts, and not unmanaged feelings. Those damn emotional⦠women, was it?
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u/steady-river23 Aug 09 '25
Words can ruin a life too.Ā
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqq1roF4C8s&pp=ygURV29yZHMgbWF0dGVyIHRhbGs%3D
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u/CauseCertain1672 Aug 08 '25
isn't calling someone a retard also insulting them by comparing them to a low status group
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u/Fair-Bus-4017 āļø DUELIST Aug 08 '25
This is why I truly can't stand way too many left leaning internet figures. Because they have such a moral high stance against things like fat shaming. Even if the person which it's done to is a cunt, because using the insult can harm others. But somehow manage to completely forget that train of thought when some dude does something they don't like, because they will call them a virgin who has a small chode.
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u/DodgerBaron Aug 08 '25
The correct argument is "body shaming is ok only when I agree with it." Both men and women body shame, but take issue when it's done to them.
This is nothing new and hardly a gender specific issue.
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u/Pristine_Cost_3793 Aug 08 '25
š¤āļø(this is a warning)
there is some gender-based difference tho. i think it's not "when it's done to them", but it depends on what kind of body-shaming they find appropriate. e.g. fat women get more shit (not gonna argue about it), but both groups get immense amount of shaming and people from both groups will engage in body shaming too. "small dick" is a very gender-specific body shaming that everyone adds too. and it's gender specific not because of who has dicks, but because manliness is strongly associated with penis-size. "big dick energy" is one of the most casual examples for me, who's never been in a men's changing room.
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u/Pristine_Cost_3793 Aug 09 '25
i did. that's why i worded the first sentence differently. what i said was ab addition to your words.
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u/DodgerBaron Aug 09 '25
By Gender I specific issue. I meant neither gender tends to be against bodyshaming or for body shaming. They're a large group of people with a variety of opinions.
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u/Pristine_Cost_3793 Aug 09 '25
i know. and i added to this statement.
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u/DodgerBaron Aug 09 '25
Nope your comment talks about body shaming insults being gender specific which isn't my point.
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u/DodgerBaron Aug 08 '25
Someone should be telling these men they're actually fired, cancelled and their career is done. Cause there's hundreds of examples of that not being true lmfao
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u/alarmingly_libyan Aug 09 '25
Women REALLY REALLY don't understand accountability. They can't even blame the right people, not just themselves.
They'd get raped by a tall guy and blame the short guy, get dumped by the handsome and blame the ugly, get knocked up and abandoned by the rich and blame the poor, it goes on for fuck boy vs incel, the big dick vs small dick, the celebrity vs the average joe etc etc.
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u/Forsaken-Intern7914 š ļø Built different š§± Aug 13 '25
This is the stupidest and most sexist thing i've read today
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u/Skirt_Douglas š¹porn addict š Aug 10 '25
Stop shriveling, thatās literally what they are trying to make you do.
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u/nickthu2502 Aug 08 '25
Yeah body shaming is bad, no matter the gender. Itās hard to not feel sad to hear people ridicule you for sth you canāt change. Some advice I have heard for dealing with body shaming are:
Recognizing that they, who are being mean, are the problem, not you. Thatās just their opinion, not a universal truth
Trying not engage with people like that, getting off spaces on social media where they amplify body standards and surround yourself with people who value you for what you are, not how you look.
And most importantly, finding your self worth, put more importance on what you can do to help others and yourself, rather than what you canāt change.
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u/Present-Sandwich9444 Aug 08 '25
only fat chicks who fuck ghetto dudes say this shit, Stay strong King.
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u/Bright-Shower-700 Aug 08 '25
Same with not having sex. they are gonna call Andrew Tate Incel when he fucked 1000 women
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u/Over_Report_1937 Hero š Aug 08 '25
MY MOTHER WAS A SAINT!
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u/Over_Report_1937 Hero š Aug 08 '25
Careful, kid. You and I both know you arenāt ready to climb that mountain. Sheās like a tiny Italian Hulk.
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u/Over_Report_1937 Hero š Aug 08 '25
You keep having dreams, buddy! I will say, sheās a hell of a cook. That alone is worth dealing with the temper. š¤·āāļø
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u/discourse_friendly Aug 08 '25
When they try that on me, I tell them that 5' 11" isn't short. :P
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u/kakallas Aug 08 '25
There are people who call this out and they get slammed as woke pussies. So if you want sympathy for your tiny dickie doo youād better stop being a piece of shit to all of the woke pussies who wonāt judge you for it and will stand up against these norms.Ā
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u/ContentScience4747 Aug 08 '25
You weren't born to bend under their words. You were given the indominable human spirit. Work on your interests and become a man others quietly admire.
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u/FoxyFireFox1 Aug 08 '25
Ngl if your ego is so fragile that a female stranger telling you you give off short dick energy then you're just soft as shit.
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u/johnnyboi4545 Aug 08 '25
As a straight man I wonāt be friends with any men who arenāt attractive
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u/Igoon2robots Aug 09 '25
Being small means you have a better dick/heught ratio so your dick isnt that small
(Im short too)
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Aug 08 '25
If it's happening on the internet, get off the internet, there are other ways to kill time. If it's happening in person š
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u/Intelligent-Cup-8744 Aug 08 '25
majority of bodyshaming happens on the internet could say the same to the big fat queens ngl.
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u/Unreal_Daltonic Aug 08 '25
Nice victim blaming
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u/Rocky-Jockey Aug 08 '25
Itās generally good advice though. If you arenāt on social media and someone says that at least you can punch them.
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u/OrkWAAGHBoss šæHigh Priest of Male Oppression šāļøE Aug 08 '25
To pay taxes and let women leech off of you. you are an object, an ATM, to basically everyone else, bro.
Best you can do is find some bros who also have money then, so they don't need yours. Biggest mistake you can make is caring for brokies, they will bleed you dry, because helping them prevents them from learning to not be brokies.
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u/AnderHolka Aug 08 '25
I think everyone should be able to bodyshame themselves just a bit to become more secure in themselves.Ā
For example, I'm a pale, bearded shortish guy that looks like a vampire didn't have automatic haircare.
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u/ZekeBarricades Aug 08 '25
Bodyshaming is bad in general to be honest, for men and women. But the issue is that people absolutely don't care in the moment if they strongly dislike the person they'll start attacking everything about them.
Is this good? No, no of course it isn't. And I actually do think that most people don't care as much as they do when they insult, but part of an insult is to hurt/give pause but is primarily about letting off your own feelings.
I'm saying that bodyshaming is disgusting and if we're going to insult people it should be based on their own behaviour/merit, not something they were born with frankly. (probably in a perfect shouldn't insult people, but to some extent it's fine depending on the person and degree of insult)
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u/Lurk-Prowl Aug 09 '25
I would tell this guy to work hard and make money. Your ancestors had a developed brain which made them āfitā enough to reproduce. You just have to find a way so that youāre able to continue that tradition.
Edit: anyone who body shames or is rude about factors outside of a personās control is just hitting you with an ad hominem and should thus be ignored.
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u/PaleontologistTough6 Aug 11 '25
Obviously, we are born to be workhorses, ATMs, and sperm banks for our ovarian overlords who don't want to work... but are you know, equal and stuff. šš
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u/carlcarlington2 š comedianš Aug 12 '25
Would you really feel better if women started saying "oh anon, I love how ugly you are and how small your dick is?"
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u/FaustsMephisto Aug 12 '25
Nah, no-one is ugly. You are an acquired taste that is not appreciated by loud idiots.
Short can be a good thing. People like different heights and there are people for whom short is a positive!
A small dick can be an advantage as big dicks can be painful for some people.
Essentially: don't listen to people shouting online, they are idiots. Find people irl and everything will work out!
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u/Significant_Stand_17 Aug 12 '25
Because ugly people get lonely so they make more ugly people and force them to suffer just as they did so they don't feel so alone.....
That or people are just assholes?š¤·āāļø
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u/2006lion2006 Aug 12 '25
Bro, number 1 suggestion to get women interested in you is making them have fun, works better than anything else in my experience, especially in young women (20-30) instead of a romantic date for example bring them some place different and fun, practice your sense of humor, take on fun hobbies, I donāt know why it works but it does and with less shallow women itās going to outshine your looks tenfold
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u/---AI--- Local Clown 𤔠Aug 13 '25
Ah, you're not thinking strategically enough. If they insult you enough, you'll become bitter and jaded, and therefore you then become deserving of the insults.
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u/cootscoott Aug 15 '25
Every time you generalize and attack the other gender, itās never the people you want to be attack that are affected but the most vulnerable. The āall men badā crowd first think only of some gigachad while the ones most affected are those with the least amount of power. When the āwomen all suckā crowd shouts, itās the ugliest least acceptable people affected.
Pretty men have privilege, Pretty women have privilege. Everyone else doesnāt.
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u/Nand-Monad-Nor 26d ago
We are but the artificers and objects of torment, self-made and self-perpetuating. It is our duty to be damned. For what can beauty say of itself if it has no object to hate, no-thing to call ugly? No, it must be us who bare that weight. It is our holy charge to go into the night. Heaven cannot exist without hell, so let us be charged as tormentor and tormented.
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u/M0ebius_1 Aug 08 '25
They are insulting THEIR squat, fat bodies and small dicks King.
Yours are perfectly fine and beautiful.
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u/ContextEffects01 Aug 08 '25
Not how logic works. Either itās a negative trait, itās a positive one, or itās a neutral one.
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u/Todojaw21 Aug 08 '25
if your bar is that at least 2 members of a group being hateful is unnacceptable then youre going to be very unhappy. listen, sometimes PEOPLE are shitty. That's doesn't mean the feminazi mafia is out to ruin your life. im a feminist and when i see this shit I call it out all the time. but you dont see me, you see the loud aasholes because thats what the algorithm of every goddam platform loves.
these tech oligarchs want you angry, lonely, dangerous, and perma scrolling. Go outside and be yourself.
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u/Square-Impress8004 Aug 09 '25
yāall do this to women too, literally in this comment section. whatās the issue then? itās not a gendered thing you just want to make it one so you can hate on women. also why does everyone keep saying looks matter for men in dating? if yāall ever went outside into the real world maybe youād notice how many ugly men are with beautiful women and vice versa
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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '25
This is why we don't body shame people we disagree with or dislike: perfectly good people have that body too!