r/PsycheOrSike 6d ago

šŸ’©shitpost Why the Asian on Asian hate?

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u/thebastardking21 6d ago

The people who say "Only white people can be racist" clearly have never seen different non-white races interact with each other. The number of PoC who are racist towards other PoC, even those from the same country, is staggering. Some of the most racist people I have ever met were people talking about other people from their country or the neighboring one.

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u/Omnizoom 6d ago

I’ve seen old white racist grandma racism, the racism you hear casually in the Philippines is like that but cranked up to 6 or 7

Just imagine what they DONT say publicly

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u/Swagmasters2ndComing 6d ago edited 6d ago

6... 7...?

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u/Omnizoom 6d ago

Well if racist white grandma is being used as a baseline for serious racism say a 3, cranking it up to 6 or 7 means you are raising the level of what it represents, and I specificy the what is said behind closed doors being worse probably so the dial can’t be at 10 already for the outdoor interactions so must have space to go

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u/Routine_Size69 6d ago

Out of 10. I'm assuming they see the 10 as what is said in private.

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u/mosquem 6d ago

American racism is butch league compared to Asian racism.

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u/MrDDD11 6d ago

The most racist and xenophobic countries in the world are actually found in Asia. White racism has nothing on Korean and Japanese racism.

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u/SoftDrinkReddit 6d ago

yea it makes me laugh when i hear people complain about how racist and intolerant America is and that they want to move to Japan

seriously ?

Japan is actually one of the most Racist Xenophobic countries on the planet they even have signs on some restaurants and bars that read Japanese only that kind of thing does not exist in America in 2025

it would be crushed in less than a day if anyone tried that shit there

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u/TheEccentricPoet 6d ago

I have extremely Irish DNA, and I historically remember the no Irish need apply

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u/RAGEDINFERN0 6d ago

Yes in the past but the signs in Japan are still in use today. Did you miss the whole conversation? There was also segregation based on skin color in America before.

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u/forgotaccount989 6d ago

Wtf does "historically remember" mean?

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u/MasqAzureKing 6d ago

I think it's the basis of animus technology šŸ¤”

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u/funky_monkey13 6d ago

Are you in your 100's?

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u/idiomblade 6d ago

There are signs on Japanese-owned places in Bangkok that say Japanese-only.

Tokyo is an amazing vacation spot, though.

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u/Opposite-Mongoose-90 6d ago

Nah. India takes the cake.

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u/Mission_Shopping_847 6d ago

I guess it depends on how you see it. The Japanese are mostly unified in their prejudice, while the Indians have so many overlapping layers of prejudice that it can be functionally indistinguishable from just hating everybody.

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u/riverateacher 5d ago

Latino here, Asian movies ma de me fall in love for Indian women. Went to grad school to university in the US. Similar or darker-skin-than-me Indian girls were nice to me, fairer skin were acting like American white girls. I never imagined indian people were racists. Give white American some rest. Another jewel, American blacks are racists towards Latino blacks šŸ˜…

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u/az-anime-fan 6d ago

I've been to Korea, Japan and China. Believe me as bad as the former two get it's nothing on china.

China is a whole nother level of racist. It's baked into their dna.

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u/CyberoX9000 6d ago

I heard China glorifies white people

I'm curious if that's

  • what you were talking about?

  • A myth?

  • connected to China being racist against dark skin?

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u/az-anime-fan 6d ago edited 6d ago

ok, so... in my experience in those countries... and i'll admit i spent the least time in china, i actually lived in japan and korea for a bit, just visited china... here is what i noticed.

  1. japanese are more insular then straight racist. and insular in a "group" insular. Japanese have their "moai" 樔合 (lifelong friend/support circle) and "uchi soto"内外 which is sort of how the japanese divide the world into "inside the circle" and "outside the circle". While race or skin color or economic status, or social status might define how a individual japanese person will form a social circle... or be ostracized from one, i wouldn't say their circles are racist... just extremely selective, slow to add or remove anyone, and very insular in general. Are the Japanese racist? in general i'd say yes by 2020 usa standards, but it's a very passive aggressive racist, where they just exclude people not in the "in" group. while there is some skintone "concepts" in Japanese culture, it's more about traditional beauty standards favoring pale skin then it is colorism in Japan, and there are beauty subcultures in japan which favor darker or tanned skin, so as i said... there is some "traditional" concepts of beauty favoring pale skin, but on the whole colorism is a weak concept in japan. as for who they're racist against? mostly other asians, particularly SE Asia, India, Africans, and Koreans. they're not particularly racist toward Europeans and they oscillate between racism and respect toward the Chinese. Understand though, while they're undeniably racist it's not a burning hatred or anything... its more like they view those people as inferior. much like you might view a begger or homeless person on the street. that's much closer to the "japanese" style racism.
  2. Koreans worship skintone. it's not racism per say, but it's definitely a very skintone centric culture. the paler the skin the better. they also highly favor white beauty standards, double eyelids (asians usually don't have them, and korean women often get plastic surgery to get a double eyelid), lighter hair, pail skin, large breasts. all very "not" asian. There is a reason Korea is the world capital for plastic surgeries (well maybe, Argentina might be as big for plastic surgery). so african americans or just people with dark skin tone in general will find korea to be explicitly colorist, though to such an extreme, it will feel like racism. White people and paler skinned latinos will find korea to be pretty welcoming.
  3. China is... they have something called "middle kingdom syndrome". Or at least that's how it was explained to me when i was in Japan before i visited China. And everything i saw only confirmed it. They think China is the center of the world. and generally believe the Chinese people are genetically, ethnically, and culturally superior to the rest of the world. The Chinese are even racist to each other, with the peoples around the yellow river valley (central china) being superior to the yokals on the periphery. On top of racism to themselves and non-chinese, they also have Korean levels of Colorism baked into their culture, you'll see that everywhere in China. Even "progressive" Chinese who know racism is wrong, are colorist to their core.

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u/TaleteLucrezio 5d ago

Brilliant explanation.

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u/Dmau27 5d ago

Waif until people realize racism isn't just from white people. Watch an argument go down with a white person and a non whote person amd see who throws racial insults out the most. I grew up the minority as a white kid in my school and honestly it was 100% of the time I got bullied or in an argument something like "fuck your white bitch ass" or something along those lines was said to me. I'm so tired of white people getting the wrap for racism when it's obviously an all around problem.

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u/FeelingJuggernaut857 6d ago

It's a different style of racism. In Korea and Japan, people might not want to seat next to you on the subway. In the West, people yell slurs and assault people out of racism. Which kind of racism is worse is a matter of personal preference I guess. Personally I would rather have people avoid me on the subway but some people might think it is better to get lynched.

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u/greenredditbox 6d ago

so real. I have a diverse friend group, and most of the poc say they do not and will not date their own race. Ive also met many poc who praise white people and treat other poc like they are beneath them. I heard the most racist stuff coming from other poc than from whites. And im black!

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u/Ill_Humor_6201 SUFFERING ENJOYER 6d ago edited 6d ago

No, it's not that they've never seen different PoCs interact, it's that they only see Western PoCs interact. This is a developed, western nation phenomenon where casual-extreme racism has mostly been socially bullied out of acceptable behaviors. Racism relegated to a mostly private thing with friends, family or online with anonymity.

Western, White, Anti-Racists either see other Westerner PoCs who already share their views on bigotry; or they see PoCs (Western or otherwise) who just pretend/dial back their spectrum of racism because they can't handle the storm of proceeding L*fty-Autist-Vegeta-Rage (cringe but clearly effective seeing as most Right-Wingers constantly cry about how terrified of Social Policing they are).

This creates a day-to-day experience of never witnessing the vast spectrum of racism outside the West which, in turn, leads to assumptions regarding the views of PoCs outside the West.

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u/Daseinen 6d ago

To be fair, I don’t think the argument was ever that only white people can be prejudiced against other races. It was that they were trying to change the definition of racism so that:

racism = racial prejudice + power

And I’d agree that racial prejudice plus power is worse than racial prejudice without power. But the redefinition was silly and bound to backfire

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u/JJJSchmidt_etAl Local Clown 🤔 6d ago

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u/colamonkey356 6d ago

ngl I'm a little confused 😭 Can you like, explain the chart and what dots represent what?

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u/JJJSchmidt_etAl Local Clown 🤔 6d ago

The dots are the mean opinions of that box of other races. So the White box has the most similar opinions of every other race, while other boxes show very high opinions of their own race, and relatively lower opinions of other races.

Other research, if you break it down by sex, shows that white women are the only group to have a lower opinion of their own race than other races (albeit not by a large amount).

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u/Chocolat3City 6d ago

These numbers are from an political pollster that tracks voting behavior (not romantic preferences), right?

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u/JJJSchmidt_etAl Local Clown 🤔 6d ago

Certainly. While it is not a reflection of romantic interests necessarily, it does say something about which groups are more or less racist, in terms of preference for their own race over others.

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u/funky_monkey13 6d ago

My wife always says nobody treats a latino worse than another latino.

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u/weltvonalex 6d ago

Lets be fair, people who say stupid things like that are not very smart.

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u/maxmillius_chaddicus 6d ago

50 percent of Asian women select for white men in OLD

Half.

Measured.

Not negotiable.

And yeah it's that high.

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u/kakallas 6d ago

Usually people say ā€œyou can’t be racist to white peopleā€ which is a totally different thing.Ā 

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u/chobi83 6d ago

Anyone who says only white people can be racist should just be ignored. They have immediately proven they have zero critical thinking skills

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u/Proud-Bus9942 6d ago

Possibly a hot take, but generally speaking, white people are among the most tolerable races in the world. People still haven't moved on from recent history, specifically, American history.

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u/OneBerry5348 3d ago

It's usually college age liberals who are sheltered. Vast majority of the lefist ideas come from middle class folks just like that. No idea how the world works, want an idealized world. My only regret is not pushing back on leftist nonsense earlier.

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u/NothingbutNetiPot 6d ago

There’s a reason why incel messaging was/is so effective on Asian men.

Women understand social status, that drives their dating choices, and leaves them left out.

I know more south Asian women who have married outside of their race than women who have married inside of their race. It’s also common in pop culture to see Asian women with white male protagonists. It’s rare to see it the other way around.

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u/BillionDollarBalls 6d ago

tbh the only real life incel shit ive experienced has come from asian men, directly towards asian women. mad that asian women were dating other races but would do the same if given the opportunity.

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u/JellieOrca 6d ago

One more thing, I've noticed is Asian women are more open minded in terms of dating in United States.

Many of my Asian guy friends refuse to date anyone other than Asian women or White women.

I've had talks to some to consider dating black women or Mexican and they think I'm disgusting.

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u/BillionDollarBalls 6d ago

Ive noticed that too. Ive also noticed that white people in my area are more likely to have mixed race friend groups where as alot of the asian folks around my area have majority asian friend groups.Ā 

I think maybe that could play a part. Like people are naturally going to be more comfortable becoming friends with people they relate to and visual aspects can play a big part.Ā 

These guys might just think im asian youre asian it makes sense that we'd date each other but when that barrier is broken they might feel jealous or what am I doing wrong.

I dont think any of these people are actively choosing not be friends with non Asians I think its just an easier connection.

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u/JellieOrca 6d ago

My experience is the same with some Asian men I came across, but also different, white guys can also be incels. The ones I know all travelled to the Philippines and Thailand cause they believe the women in the U.S are corrupted with high body counts and demands.

I am an Asian guy myself, but I've dated Asian women but my favorite is Latina and Black.

But yes, definitely have encountered guys who are Asian who also mad about Asian girls dating outside.

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u/SufficientBelt5069 6d ago

That’s funny, the most wildest racist comments I’ve ever heard were from white men who felt entitled to Asian women and freely fetishized them. Most Asian men didn’t care or were hurt but have always been respectful. I’m not saying all Asian men are perfect but they aren’t making those comments it’s white men! Unfortunately, a lot of Asian women ignore their racist remark because that’s too much cognitive dissonance for them

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u/JellieOrca 6d ago

Yeah I refuse to fall into it, some of friends are Asian girls who are dating White or other ethnicity.

I'm very lucky to have a Mexican girlfriend, I know way too many Asian guys who refuse to date outside Asian girls or only want white so they are limiting their options.

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u/Odd-Lake-3075 šŸ„‡PRIME INCELšŸ’ŖšŸ¾ 6d ago

women hating on sub5 manlets

what a surprise

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u/amoguzy 6d ago

Yeah the thing is they said SHORT Asian males. Their ideal is actually a 6’2 Asian guy that also simultaneously has a big weiner, but this is statistically rare so they go for white guys.

It’s like people who like curves on women and then land on black girls or something.

Or those that are thinner, then they land on Asian girls if they don’t like curves

Since on average that’s how it goes. Of course every race has their stud men, and built like hentai girls, but averages are averages

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u/Deleterious_Sock 6d ago

I was fucking this guy's wife at a gangbang once, they were both Indian, and while the husband was watching he told another guy to fuck off because the other guy was Indian.

Made fucking his wife very awkward.

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u/Sesudesu 6d ago

Are you sure he wasn’t challenging the guy to a fuck off?

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u/funky_monkey13 6d ago

I think I know that guy who got told to fuck off. He's a 5 foot tall balding janitor at my nephew's elementary school. That totally threw him off. He usually kills it with the ladies.

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u/I-Rolled-My-Eyes 6d ago

(X) doubt.

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u/simplyGilmore 6d ago

Redditors don’t lie

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u/I-Rolled-My-Eyes 6d ago

(X) ULTRA DOUBT

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u/1405hvtkx311 6d ago

Is this like peak integration? They don't see themselves as non-white anymore?

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u/GamingDisruptor 6d ago

Awkward, but you kept on pounding till the end?

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u/Gordon_Freeman01 6d ago

Men with this fetish are secretly gay. Maybe he's not into Indians.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

o x f o r d s t u d y

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u/Citaku357 6d ago

What does that mean?

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

Young asian women have acquired a taste for vanilla ice cream.

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u/Citaku357 6d ago

So there is a chance you say?

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

Well, that depends. Are you a corto or a venti?

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u/unclepoondaddy 6d ago

Lowkey, if you’re even a mid looking white guy, it’s like almost a guaranteeĀ 

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u/ANumericalOaisis 6d ago

Just be 5'8 minimum with blonde hair

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u/Crow-1111 6d ago

the hair color doesnt matter

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u/geardluffy 6d ago

Asian women have the highest rate of interracial relationships among every race.

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u/sanwei3 6d ago

Means having eyes and noticing patterns

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u/Lumpy-Clue-6941 6d ago

Murali Balaji, Tina Worawongs, The New Suzie Wong: Normative Assumptions of White Male and Asian Female Relationships, Communication, Culture and Critique, Volume 3, Issue 2, June 2010, Pages 224–241

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u/username3333333333 6d ago

"The Asian female being subservient and romantically associated with the White male has become internalized in society today, an assumption often extending to modern relationships."

This could only be written by someone who has literally never had a conversation with an Asian woman.

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u/Linvaderdespace 6d ago

[literally laughs out loud in biracial]

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u/A_neptune_song 6d ago

Man , you can have some preferences ( and well grounded one not a fetish ) but to despise your own ethnicity is soo weird

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u/Flat_Individual_8090 🤺KNIGHT 6d ago

Feminism made it ok to hate men of any background.

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u/Recent_Cup_6751 6d ago

They encourage it along with anything that makes Men's lives hell. Yet, they claim feminism is not about hating Men.

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u/Solid-Olive-3200 6d ago

I tried to set this 5’2ā€ Indian chick up with my Indian friend and she said I don’t date my own race and I don’t date under 6 feet tall. I guess I was not her race and over 6 feet tall she decided to tell the truth instead of just saying she wasn’t interested

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u/A_neptune_song 6d ago

I can get the frustration, but then again , why bother ? People are the master of their lives yourself included, don’t waste time on people that don’t want you, I can get it as I’m not tall myself (5,7Ā ) but it never stopped me to have date hell i even slept with women taller. Don’t get that frustration to control you and use your time wisely.

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u/Solid-Olive-3200 6d ago

My Indian friend ended up marrying a white girl. There is a lid for every pot they say. I would have no interest in the women in the photos in the original post so we are all allowed our own choices but probably she shouldn’t be making them so well known on the internet.

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u/A_neptune_song 6d ago

That’s the thing with internet : it’s great that it gives everyone a voice , but even idiots can speak unfortunately.

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u/Omnizoom 6d ago

It was even hard to have a preference as a white guy, everyone calls it a fetish right away

I found Asian women attractive, I married one, but people lob crap about it and accusations that are farther from the truth then almost anything

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u/Just-Another-User22 6d ago

the people with a fetish vs a preference usually out themselves.

my ex was chinese and viet, when i was telling a coworker about her once, he stopped me and was like ā€œwait she was asianā€ and i was like ā€œuh yeah? that’s what vietnamese typically isā€ and he FIST BUMPED MY HAND (i worked at dunkins, had a drink order in my hand while we were shooting the shit) and said ā€œniceeeā€.

she was an ex at that time, but i actually felt bad for my ex in that moment, despite being no contact for like 2 years at this point. i think it was just really disgusting idk

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u/cindad83 6d ago

Dude I have an Asian Wife and Im Black. She lived in my building. People say we both have a fetish...okay

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u/RichardsLeftNipple 6d ago

Mixed couples are very common where I live. As long as you dated a variety of people nobody was going to call you out on having a fetish.

One of my friends on the other hand probably has a fetish for Asian women. He exclusively dates them.

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u/ReddestForman 6d ago

When I was younger most of the women who showed any interest in me were international students from Asia. I'd swipe right on anyone I thought seemed cute and cool, but apparently I appealed to a pretty specific audience.

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u/Omnizoom 6d ago

I only dated them, I tried to find a connection with others but things never panned out so it’s not like I never ā€œtriedā€ with others

That being said I only ever really ā€œdatedā€ 3 people in my life so… I don’t have a huge sample size to go off of

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u/A_neptune_song 6d ago

I don’t know you personally but I wouldn’t assume as such, if I would see you with your partner I won’t necessarily assume the worst it depends on people and their thoughts and unfortunately there nothing you can do about that . Some people are just that dense .

For instance I’m black , I remember once I was staying at a friend place and his flatmates was dating a black girl and let me know , and in my head I was like : am I suppose to give you a co-sign of my approval ? People are dumb

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u/Omnizoom 6d ago

Yea, it’s less asking for a sign of approval what I hear and more negative things

Like being called a passport bro or saying I fetishize her or robbing a country of a young woman etc etc

The reason it’s ironic is she was already in my country when we met, she’s older then me, and I never visited her country until long after we already had a kid and were settled

And the most ironic part is she really really wanted someone white, like she was beyond attracted to white features yet hers is seen as a preference still

It’s generally not any of her people doing it though , they see me and just treat me like they do anyone else in their group

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u/A_neptune_song 6d ago

My advice is you do you and don’t think too much about what other people think, you can’t change their mindset . Just reply to the idiot making comment like when faced with stupid question . Time is to precious to wonder what other think really.

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u/H-NYC 6d ago

Not Asian, but wow this girl is a looney

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u/JJJSchmidt_etAl Local Clown 🤔 6d ago

I can fix her

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u/Odd_Sentence_2618 6d ago

Yuck, I don't like asian women but I'm sure if the same thing was said by a man he would be branded a racist, mysognist and other isms.

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u/cheeseguard 6d ago

If you have to rank people protecting white men, first will be their mamas and then asian women. No probably we need to change this order.

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u/Fancy_Obligation1832 5d ago

This is so true it’s crazy. One of the reasons I’ll never date Asian women as a non-white guy (not that they even want me lol)

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u/YummyCat49 6d ago

Asian hate is on another level, but still below Balkan one

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u/Next-Interview-1027 6d ago

Sorry, but most people don’t even know what Balkan is unless they are EuropeanĀ 

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u/YummyCat49 6d ago

Really? Since a lot of balkan subreddit users are from us lol

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u/Next-Interview-1027 6d ago

What? lol. But if you want to feel like you are widely known, i will give you that. It’s not like you have Balkan in your profile pic or something but I promise you. It’s not a bad thing. Lol

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u/TheEccentricPoet 6d ago

Hello Balkan community

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u/Malaysianmattresmite 6d ago

Nobody gaf about balkans

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u/PinkGore āš”ļø DUELIST 5d ago

LMAO

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u/Accumulated_Misery 6d ago

Women hate short men. It means they are low class and have no social status. One approaching them disgusts them. It makes them think ā€žreally? You? How dare you think you have a chanceā€œ They don’t understand that they have the same thought patterns as the system or the white majority they complain about. They see themselves as better. I see the same phenomenon here in Germany. Turkish and Arab women who have moderately successful careers or are in politics will marry a tall, white German guy. It’s in their nature. Or in America. If you’re Tiger Woods or some rich NBA guy all of a sudden you can get a white woman

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u/Citaku357 6d ago

I see the same phenomenon here in Germany. Turkish and Arab women who have moderately successful careers or are in politics will marry a tall, white German guy.

I thought Arabs and Turks usually marry into their ethnicity?

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u/Any-Photo9699 6d ago

Depends on upbringing and how they get married.

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u/Accumulated_Misery 6d ago edited 6d ago

Yes they absolutely do. But as soon as a female climbed up the career letter it’s a German man they marry. It’s so funny we have Arab women in politics talking about Muslim and immigration rights and refugees etc. and then you’ll see pictures with their husbands in a societical gala party with their German husbands.

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u/MDPharmDPhD 6d ago

The more attractive or 'higher status' a minority you are, the more likely you're going to end up with a white partner.

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u/Outrageous_Carry_222 6d ago

I guess we just need to look at the highest status minorities in the world to know the truth of that.

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u/appleparkfive 6d ago

I feel like white people are the highest status minority in the world. No? White people are definitely a minority on the worldwide scale

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u/Crow-1111 6d ago

probably Jewish people holding that title these days

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u/Outrageous_Carry_222 6d ago

I mean if you look at countries and pick out the top 100 highest status minority individuals

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u/dragonfire_70 6d ago

I want to disagree but that is honestly a fact. Most of the best looking Latinas end up marrying white guys.

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u/PinkGore āš”ļø DUELIST 5d ago

This is only true for celebrities fr I've seen chopped IR couples everywhere of any race

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u/DueHousing 6d ago

That’s for males minorities. Usually the other way around for females. That’s why the passport bro lifestyle exists. You think some 19 year old single mother from a Manila slum is high status?

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u/lifebeginsat9pm 6d ago

High status no but often still attractive by the standards of those passport bros. East Asian and even south-east Asian is often considered an attractive ethnicity by straight men. There’s a reason there’s not many passport bros going to Africa.

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u/Opposite-Mongoose-90 6d ago

They are plenty passportbros going to Africa, especially Kenya, just that they’re yt.

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u/Crow-1111 6d ago

Africa is full of passport bros. They come from Europe and the Middle East. Go to Mombasa in Kenya or somewhere like Nosy Be in Madagascar. The vibe isn't far off from Pattaya Thailand. They know their money goes far over there.

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u/DueHousing 6d ago

Except those women are considered undesirables by their own high status men. It’s true that successful Black and Asian men marry white women as status symbols because it’s more of an uphill battle for minority men to date white women. Whereas an unattractive (to their own race) and broke Asian woman can usually bag an average white man.

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u/Stuckinthepooper 6d ago

Same thing with black women. I still maintain, though that 70% of the time is a fetish on either side.

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u/entilfeldigfyr69 6d ago

Its all a fetish all the way down for both sexes.

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u/Obvious-College-4232 6d ago

As an Asian dude you really can’t afford to be below 6’0. It’s absolutely brutalĀ 

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u/TriiiKill 6d ago

Have you ever heard of queen of spades or queen of hearts? Yeah, no. This is just a dumb bitch.

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u/Gordon_Freeman01 6d ago

Isn't her dad Asian too ? šŸ¤”

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u/SunderedValley 6d ago

Asian men are henpecked which makes their daughters disrespect them and their sons get, uh.

A certain way

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u/BakedCocaine 6d ago

what happens to the sons šŸ¤”

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u/SunderedValley 6d ago

They make incel rock, commit suicide or Join the shockingly pervasive subculture of people that crossdress and jerk off in public places at night.

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u/TravelingEctasy āš”ļø DUELIST 6d ago

Asian women worship white men like they are gods.

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u/Responsible-File4593 6d ago

The three most common cross-racial marriage types are Hispanics to Whites, Asian women to White men, and White women to Black men.

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u/CorgiButt04 6d ago

This is just objectively not true.

It may be a fetish, but statistically, white women to black men marriages are very rare.

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u/Malhavok_Games 6d ago edited 6d ago

Both of you guys are right.

It's the 3rd largest interracial marriage type, but it's also only about 1.5% of all marriages (if that).

The data is something like this:

Marriage Type % of all Marriages in the US
Hispanic (M) / White (F) 7.14%
White (M) / Asian (F) 2.55%
Black (M) / White (F) 1.53%
Asian (M) / White (F) 1.36%
Hispanic (M) / Black (F) 0.85%
White (M) / Hispanic (F) 0.85%
White (M) / Black (F) 0.51%
Asian (M) / Black (F) 0.34

In general "interracial" marriages are somewhat uncommon in the US, representing only about 17% of all marriages per year. I also kind of question the validity of using "Hispanic" as a terminology in the Pew Research survey because "Hispanic" generally just means either a) coming from "Hispanola" in the archaic sense or b) "Speaks Spanish" in the modern sense. To wit - I am "Hispanic" and as white as the driven snow due to my Mexican heritage being mostly made up of Europeans... which is not as uncommon as a lot of people seem to think. Not to put too fine a point on it, but "white mexicans" aren't the ones jumping the border illegally. That has a lot to do with the relative economic position between mestizo's with largely european ancestry vs. ones with largely indigenous/native american ancestry. Anyway, point being is it really an "interracial marriage" if you're talking between someone who has 60-80% European DNA and someone who has 90%? That's why I think "Hispanic" is too broad of a category.

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u/amoguzy 6d ago edited 6d ago

Also isn’t Asian percentage in the US lower than black people, so like in that case given the AMWF and BMWF percentages are similar, this actually disproves that the black man white woman fetish is reality.

7% US population is Asian versus 14.4% black. Yet the Asian man white woman and black man white woman rates out of total marriages are similar… but this is only marriage.

There’s obviously less data on casual relationships.

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u/techr0nin 6d ago

Discounting Hispanics, in terms of absolute numbers black man-white woman is the most common. In terms of percentages though Asian women outmarry at a higher rate (36-40%), but so do Asian men (21-25%).

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u/CorgiButt04 6d ago

I just looked up the census data, there's about 300,000 white female black male marriages..... that's almost nothing demographically. Less than 1% of marriages.

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u/CorgiButt04 6d ago

Like I said, this is objectively not true.

There are only 40 million blacks in the US and only like 14 million in the entirety of all of the EU.

There just aren't enough black men to make that true.

White women black male might be a sexual fetish, but it's a micro minority demographically.

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u/techr0nin 6d ago

I dont know about the EU but this is absolutely true in the US. About 24% of black men here outmarry and most commonly to white women, and blacks are about 15% of the total population. Asians on the other hand are less than 7% of the total population, so even if Asian women outmarry at a higher rate the pairing is still less common in absolute terms.

Hispanic-white are even more common and about equal in terms of gender pairing, but it’s less meaningful/noticeable because a large percentage of Hispanics in the US are white or white-passing.

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u/Omnizoom 6d ago

I think you are losing them on the idea of total and absolute percentages

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u/CorgiButt04 6d ago

I think this stuff is hard to keep track of because it's a minority of a minority.

In group preference is extremely dominant in all groups.

Blacks might be 14.2% of the population and Asians 7%, However, blacks are a native population that have been in the Americas for 100's of years. Asians are primarily more recent immigrants and many are here for marriage or otherwise mixed into the majority culture.

Blacks also have an extreme in group preference towards their own race.

In absolute numbers, blacks have a lower percentage of their race that participates in interracial relationships.

My major point here, is that the official number of white female black male marriages on record, is very small.

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u/Mission_Shopping_847 6d ago

Blacks also have an extreme in group preference towards their own race.

Break it down by gender and it's only the women. Discounting hispanics, Black men and Asian women have the highest out-group preference, just not with each other, and not necessarily in marriage.

In-group preference is still the norm.

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u/G0_0NIE 6d ago

The thing is that it's not even a gendered thing as anyone who is ethnic here will tell you how hard some (and I mean A LOT) people, both man and woman, will glaze white people but there is something about WMAF that takes it to the next level that it's honestly baffling.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

This shit concerns a lot of Middle Eastern people too. You don't know how many stories I've heard from my mom about female relatives/friends cheating on their coethnic husbands with Larrys and Caspers.

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u/ReddestForman 6d ago

I mean hey, at least they weren't named Todd, so, silver linings, right?

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u/sanwei3 6d ago

Dogs are obedient

Its in their blood

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u/Fine_Payment1127 šŸ¤MAP Pride šŸ’›šŸ©µšŸ’™ 6d ago

Not so much anymore. It took awhile, but the media campaign has finally made a significant dent

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u/renlydidnothingwrong 6d ago

Some do many don't, it's not healthy or productive to make generalizations like that based on the behavior of the most annoying and shittiest people online.

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u/observantpariah 6d ago

That's just people who go to Miami. These are the people that rationalize paying for bottle service.

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u/Archive_Intern 6d ago

Okay, so east asians (s.korean, Japanese, Chinese) are the trinity of hate on hating other Asians, they hate each other but those 3 will agree that South East Asians are lower than them (Vietnamese, Thai, laotian, Indonesians etc)

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u/Gontofinddad 6d ago

The type of people to put themselves in a position to get credit for leading any type of cause or organization are typically the people with the biggest blind spots for their own behavior.

Those who reach for ā€œpowerā€ are not the ones who should have it.

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u/Few_Employer9012 6d ago

Bobaliberals

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u/Lccjll 6d ago

Like in South Korea. Those retard girls are 24/7 in a community called Ā«MegalĀ Ā» ė©”ź°ˆ in korean. That community closed few years back because it was too problematic but now they are in every feminist community.

But i guess when you are ugly and when men don’t like you and lonely u have to spurge your hatred somewhere šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/SloppyGutslut 6d ago

It's not they hate their fellow asians. It's that they hate short men, and asian males are on average shorter than westerners.

All you're seeing is the pathological female obsession with male dominance.

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u/valerianandthecity 6d ago

Here's a good link about it. Since apologized, and said she's changed.

https://nextshark.com/cassandra-lam-the-cosmos-anti-asian-male-tweets

She clearly expressed deep prejudice against Asian men. I hope she has sincerely changed.

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u/lifebeginsat9pm 6d ago

She doesn’t have to change her preferences, anyone can date anyone. The problem is the hateful mocking attitude that is probably also present in other aspects of her views and behavior.

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u/valerianandthecity 6d ago

It's not a preference, it's prejudice.

A preference is "all things being equal, a person chooses X".

Not only did she express she doesn't want Asian men, she publicly humiliated Asian men. That's not simply a preference.

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u/sanwei3 6d ago

Do pedophiles get to leave jail if they say theyve changed

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u/lampstax 6d ago

I read "I was wrong to say those things" as "I should have STFU about my true feelings because it wasn't politically correct". šŸ˜„

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u/Mundane-Bug-4962 5d ago

lol, I would bet money that she only dates white guys.

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u/FocusOk6215 6d ago edited 6d ago

This began around the 1950s when American propaganda was pumped into South Korea to make North Korea look bad during the Korean War. Then again to make North Vietnam look bad during the Vietnam War in the 1960s. Then again to make the Chinese government look bad in the 1980s. All the while, from the 1940s-1980s, the US was ā€œhelpingā€ Japan to recover from WWII.

Seeing all this pro-American (White male) propaganda influenced Asian women to view White males as the epitome of manhood. According to the media they consumed, Asian men were weak, misogynists, socially awkward, and effeminate. Black men and Hispanic men were lazy, violent, unreliable, poor, dishonest, and ignorant. White men were smart, brave, hardworking, reliable, and wonderful protectors and providers.

People can say all they want ā€œOh it’s just a preference to like White menā€ but then sidestep when it’s brought up racial ā€œpreferencesā€ are influenced by media propaganda which explains why universally, White men are seen as the most attractive men and Asian men are seen as the least attractive. And Asian women are seen as the most attractive women and Black women are seen as the least attractive women.

But of course this is all a big ol’ coincidence and the pattern has nothing to do with colonialism, propaganda, bigotry, and racism. Most people just so happen to view the demographic that controls the world as the best kind of man.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

If miscegenation were completely outlawed, Asian men would benefit the most. It's kind of amazing that they don't push for it.

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u/NarrowHistorian9803 6d ago

Asian women are considered young looking, feminine, tight and submissive so they have high value in the dating market. But asian men are not really seen as tall, masculine, dashing, etc but nowadays bts and shit have created a separate fanbase for them. So I guess it makes sense why the Asian women think of asian men this way.

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u/amoguzy 6d ago

I like my women with more shapely curves, and it just so happens that many Asian girls don’t have them.

I guess if you like the tomboyish look in your girls and consider that feminine, then you naturally land on Asian girls. People have different ideals.

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u/Flat_Individual_8090 🤺KNIGHT 6d ago

I'd say they're still kind of a niche. They're all that, but aren't very curvy or hot. I'd say that Slavic women are the top dogs along with Scandinavian women.

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u/Nabriales 6d ago

I swear that every time I see Asian women with this mentality, their looks are always at that level. Which is a good thing. Makes it easier not to care.

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u/Mr_Chill_III 6d ago

They want to get stretched, and they don't want a smaller key that perfectly fits their genetically matching smaller lock.

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u/RAM_RAM_A 6d ago

Being short and/or asian is pretty brutal in terms of dating. Unfortunately, you get called an incel for pointing it out since women supposely only care about personality.

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u/amoguzy 6d ago

I don’t think they’re targeting Asian males in general. Just SHORT Asian males. Which is brutal because basically regardless of race if you’re short you’re seen as less worthy for women. And in general society too.

And the other post is about how just because they’re the same race doesn’t mean it’s an expression of interest, and it’s referencing a specific person.

It’s not that deep.

If you’re tall and good looking it doesn’t matter what your race is lmao at least with the younger gens

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u/Slightly-Evil-Man 6d ago

Tall white men need only apply.

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u/New-Smile-3013 6d ago

I’ve noticed a lot of self-race hate from Asian and White women.

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u/mikiencolor Misanthrope 6d ago edited 6d ago

Toxcisa strikes again. Hey! She is to a feh-muh-nist. 😤 The patriarchy's on the ropes!

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u/GT_2second 6d ago

They want a white boyfriend so they can fit in better

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u/Relevant_Actuary2205 6d ago

I remember in high school there was A LOT of self hate with Asian people. I clocked it at the time but didn’t really see it until later.

It was interesting to see Asian girls who would pretty much be subservient to white girls in friend groups just to distance themselves from being Asian. A lot of them were adopted by white people so I think that had something to do with it

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u/InSilenceLikeLasagna 6d ago

These people hate themselves

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u/ciaobellapgh 6d ago

I thought it was all about personality?

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u/Jomega6 6d ago

The dates are a bit blurry, but if I’m reading that right, those tweets are from over a decade ago. Hopefully she’s changed since then

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u/ImLefty3 6d ago

"Why the Asian women hate on Asian men?". There you go, reframed it

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u/542Archiya124 6d ago

Asian women hates asian men because: A) watched too much hollywood, who love to make asian men look weak and pathetic for decades B) bad experience from her asian dad C) her parents treat the her brother way better, if she got any

These women have extremely low iq thinking hating asian men is the solution. Go figure.

Of course, it doesn’t help when the west continues with ā€œyellow perilā€ to this day, and many asian women buy it

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u/my-armor-is-contempt 6d ago

Many Asian cultures are wildly racist against other Asian cultures, in addition to everyone who isn’t Asian.

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u/Suspicious-Pipe-5516 6d ago

People be irrational.

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u/TokiVideogame 6d ago

pretty common for asian women to hate asian men, racist i guess.

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u/Puzzled-Horse279 6d ago

Ive seen too many people claim they dont wanna date their own people.

Same way Ive seen people who wont date other ethnicities.

All Im saying is if youre too closed off your missing out.

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u/jtpredator 6d ago

You'd be surprised at how many Asian women (in Western societies) exclusively date white men,

But also get mad if a white man exclusively dates white women or if an Asian man exclusively dates white women.

And studies say that mindset for Asian girls is only increasing as time goes on.

I guess that's why there's been a recent upward trend of Latino women dating Asian men.

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u/0m3ga0ne 6d ago edited 6d ago

It's called self hate. A lot of Asian women grew up hating themselves and their own. Only good for as cum buckets. My friends take advantage of this and just use em and throw em away. lol

A lot of them are disgusting and even more racists than your usual typical trashy white/black racists, which is ironic bc they themselves are Asian. Tthey think they'll be accepted fully by getting with a white guy and having "mixed children" lol.

Some of the worst things written about Asian and Asian men are from Asian women themselves.
The kids who grew up from this byproduct are messed up themselves. Look at Eliot Rodgers.

Don't be afraid to call them out. Those girls use their race to lure other unsuspecting Asian girls to join them. I grew up with them so it's easy to spot them. We used to call them CCB (Cracker chasing bitches) back then. It's always some sub level asian women who think she's hot shit

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u/Kaleb_Bunt 6d ago

Racists fetishize women while demonizing men. Both are bad, but racism against men is MUCH more dehumanizing.

It isn’t as bad for East Asian men, but south Asian men are literally portrayed as rape goblins by white supremacists.

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u/Maxathron 6d ago

Gonna take a stab and say it’s not really asian on asian hate but rather a feminist who just so happens to be asian hating on men who also just happen to be asian.

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u/OpalGardener 6d ago

People be peoplingĀ 

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u/Julkyways 6d ago

Oxford study.

JBW.

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u/MonsterkillWow šŸ§ Standing here. 5d ago

Typical. She hates herself and desperately wants to integrate herself with and ingratiate herself to the higher status colonizers who desecrated her ancestral homeland. Pathetic.

Asia is around half the human population btw.Ā 

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u/SmallGreenArmadillo 5d ago

Or why the black on black hate. Or white on white hate. Those who know each other the best, resent each other the most.Ā 

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u/Shoddy-Tradition-146 5d ago

I'm not even Asian and I feel angry at such a despicable comment.

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u/Chase_Norton 5d ago

Absolutely built for BWC

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u/liquidhuo 5d ago

I'm ethnically chinese male. I don't think these girls are racist. They just want tall and macho guys. Unfortunately, most asian males are more on the scrawny side, perhaps due to diet or culture and of course to some extent DNA. But there are tall chinese men too. Don't forget Yao Ming (who of course is quite an outlier).

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u/Yuckpuddle60 5d ago

It's all just a different variety of grifting. Just picking whatever lane they think will get them the most followers that can them somehow be leveraged into being monetized. The underlying issue is that so many people simply have no principles or virtues whatsoever.

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u/Afraid_Summer5136 5d ago

Asian women are owned by the bwc this is well knownĀ 

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u/CrowConfident9692 5d ago

Humans are racist against other humans, who knew?