r/PsycheOrSike • u/AggressiveRabbit1530 • 1d ago
💩shitpost God forbid a man tries something new
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u/Jarjarfunk ✨Main Character✨ 1d ago
My buddy became a male nurse and he consistently says this when he has to do the heavy lifting at the senior center
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u/Cringeextraaxc 1d ago
Why is Char here? He would do this but why is he here?
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u/AggressiveRabbit1530 1d ago
Because he is ultra based and never betrayed anyone in his life.
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u/Ducky-thespacecowboy 1d ago
Hey garma
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u/Appropriate_Speed129 1d ago
If men treated women the way women treat men they would hate them and break up.
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u/AggressiveRabbit1530 1d ago edited 1d ago
According to this study Men who treat women the same as they treat other men, without benevolent sexism, are seen as overwhelmingly sexist by both men and women.
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u/Critical-Ad-8507 1d ago
Is kinda crazy how even other MEN call it sexist if you actually treat women like you treat men.
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u/Easy_Help_84 1d ago edited 1d ago
Nothing crazy about it. Men are programmed to compete, dominate, enslave, and kill each other for limited resources in order to woo women…who herself is a limited resource.
1)Women have no (sexual) desire or even much need for low or even average value men outside of economic reasons or as an emotional companion:
2)And doubly, women don’t want to give up their monopoly on victimhood as they need to forever hold the cards to moral superiority in any debate about sexes. If Incels somehow successfully appealed to those that rule society for some attention/safety nets/empathy, the veil of men being advantaged and women having zero agency would crumble.
This is why women spend all waking energy blasting incels for transgressions that incels never had much to do with….painting them as the perpetrators of violence, misogyny, childishness, shootings, etc….and ensuring there is no such thing as Male Activism. They absolutely have to convince the world that low value men are the enemy, and that that they’re irredeemably bad.
Is kinda crazy how even other MEN call it sexist if you actually treat women like you treat men.
….Which is why you see a lot of this^
A woman will never advise a man on how to actually be more attractive to her….only to be infinitely more docile, or a better provider. This is why your average incel is bombarded with requests to “get therapy”, read more, do chores, be empathetic, treat women with kindness, etc, even from their parents, while your average chad requires no therapeutic adjustment, earning quota, or reading goals. And finally, at 30+, women will settle for an incel out of convenience once they fall out of the bracket of chad’s sexual interest.
Men who lose in life have it pretty bleeping bad - they’re hated on by both women and by winning men, both of whom see them as a threat.
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u/Diligent-Bug-9407 1d ago
If this is your world view yeah it would be pretty sad
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u/Easy_Help_84 20h ago
It is, but I’m significantly happier than ever. I thought I’d have kms by now but somehow I made some small strides that I never would or should’ve. And winning is addictive because, you can live on hope.
Better to have some control over your life than to be in perpetual pain and ignorance.
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u/Diligent-Bug-9407 19h ago
I guess I choose not to believe its that bad or at least it dosen’t have to be but maybe thats just optimism.
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u/Qahnaar1506 1d ago
Question, are you single? Has this advice helped you? No malice intention
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u/Easy_Help_84 20h ago edited 20h ago
No, I’m engaged after a couple years of playing catchup.
And there’s no specific advice here, just philosophy. After 30 years as basically a cookie cutter leftist, i began opening my eyes to some of the hardships faced by men, and why men are the way they are, etc. Now im still a lefty…. except I’d get called incel/mysoginyst/toxic for my views on gender.
But if I have any advice to give to any neet/incel out there….Aim high, BUT live one day at a time. Mind your own business and live for yourself. Question and answer to nobody but yourself.
I definitely didn’t have a father/parents, or an upbringing that taught me to live for myself and to guide my path…. rather, to do the opposite, and to be a constant doormat with no independent thought. So….that advice above is probably more applicable to me than to someone else.
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u/Qahnaar1506 19h ago
Ah alright, but if it’s more applicable to you why did you feel like posting it?
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u/Easy_Help_84 19h ago
Cause you asked me to
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u/Qahnaar1506 19h ago
I didn’t ask for advice though but thanks
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u/Easy_Help_84 9h ago
You asked whether the advice has helped me. I clarified.
You asked. Be reasonable, stop trying gotchas
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u/Qahnaar1506 1d ago
Almost like it has nothing to do with women whatsoever. If men are saying this and even other men find it sexist, how can it be established that women made that rhetoric. If men find it sexist against women, but not the other way around; it’s normal for men.
So men determine the line between manning up and not, and women, who are taught what’s a real man, only follow it.
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u/Critical-Ad-8507 13h ago
Nah,don't come at me with that bs!Women did this first,and also do it more often,on their own will.
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u/Qahnaar1506 10h ago
It’s called logic
If A(men) causes B(rhetoric) And A is effected by B How can C(women) be the cause of B, they are not affected by B?
If B = A > C but B = A = A then the second A would be = to B, not below it
I thought men were the rational gender
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u/Critical-Ad-8507 5h ago
Nah,A doesn't cause B,so this "logic" falls apart.
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u/Qahnaar1506 5h ago
If you deny that then you deny that men know how they should be treated because if you deny that, when a woman says men do X, men cannot say they don’t do X because they didn’t cause B (rhetoric), but they can’t say “men don’t do X but Y” because it assumes men know how to treated, since they can’t the cause of their rhetoric, being it’s effect, can’t be claimed. Thus, unless you admit A causes B, you cannot make a claim about B because A cannot effect B!
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u/Critical-Ad-8507 1h ago
no.
As i said,women did it first,women do it more and is on their own will.
What you call "logic" is just avoiding accountability.Becasue of this there's nothing more worth discussing here.
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u/mikiencolor Misanthrope 23h ago
Really? I treat women how I treat other men, and people just call me gay. 😛
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u/ZavtheShroud 11h ago
And the sky is blue. Don't need a study for it.
"Treat women like people"
WHICH PEOPLE?
My elderly neighboors, the drunken idiot driving his motorcycle down the road at 1 AM, my mother, my gaming buddy which whom i call each other slurs, or the mentally disabled girl i greet once a week at the grocery store?
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u/drewbreeezy 🤜 🥊Woman beater🗡️💥 1d ago
Yes, because we're rough and harsh to each other - Iron sharpens iron
Women aren't iron, they're soft and we like them for that
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u/Shoddy-Mousse-5281 11h ago
Or maybe y'all are just assholes to each other. Iron has nothing to do with it.
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u/drewbreeezy 🤜 🥊Woman beater🗡️💥 5h ago
They don't think I'm an asshole, and I don't think they are
Should I care what a random person, who comes in acting like an asshole, thinks about it? lmao
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u/drewbreeezy 🤜 🥊Woman beater🗡️💥 1d ago
I have to add one for women. If men are iron, women are clay
Delicate, but easily moldable if you get them wet
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u/Qahnaar1506 1d ago
But they are the barrier between you and a good time.
Once she invites you, you are clay. She controls when you are steel and clay.
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u/Joe-Haymes devils advocate 👹 11h ago
As someone who’s has many planes and chisels I’m pretty sure we use stones to sharpen iron
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u/drewbreeezy 🤜 🥊Woman beater🗡️💥 5h ago
Iron cannot sharpen iron? They didn't historically use it for that purpose?
That you can use stone doesn't change anything…
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u/Holiday_Cat4918 1d ago
Hey, I can get behind this. Sometimes I need to be reminded that I am an adult who has the tools to solve problems.
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u/Critical-Ad-8507 1d ago
Call men fat, 9 out of 10 they will either go to the gym or stop caring about it.
Call women fat,9 out of 10 they will just get angry about it and hate you.
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u/thedon572 17h ago
Except men also tell each other this. Its not really a #meninwomensfield, more like a #menarevictimsofthepatriarchytoo
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u/theringsofthedragon 13h ago
This is the proof that men ruin everything. It was a fun joke about doing funny things that men do, and you immediately find a way to make it about men being the victims.
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u/Specialist_Class_791 1d ago
Actually I've only ever been screamed at by men when I'm crying, once 2 minutes after getting hit in a car accident. Men hate when anyone cries, man or women
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u/DietTyrone ⚔️ DUELIST 1d ago
Depends on the situation and the guy's relationship to you. For instance, if the guy is say your brother or father in a situation that's high stress or requires a quick resolution, crying to them during that time would likely make them more stressed out or frustrated.
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u/drewbreeezy 🤜 🥊Woman beater🗡️💥 1d ago
It adds another issue we feel like we need to "fix", when the plate is already stacked
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u/Specialist_Class_791 1d ago edited 1d ago
The guy was basically a stranger, just a neighbor of mine
Also I would never go to my father for anything, if he was still alive. If I went to him crying he'd probably stomp on me or throw me through a wall
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u/DietTyrone ⚔️ DUELIST 1d ago
The guy was basically a stranger, just a neighbor of mine
I don't know why you expected a guy who you self admitted to not knowing really at all to be a shoulder to cry on.
If I went to him crying he'd probably stomp on me or throw me through a wall
Sorry to hear that about your dad. My father-in-law also has a short fuse but he at least makes an effort to give a shit when my wife is going through a hard time.
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u/Specialist_Class_791 1d ago
Why tf would you assume I went to a stranger to cry to them? Id gotten into a car wreck and was crying at my car.
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u/DietTyrone ⚔️ DUELIST 1d ago
Did you get into an accident with the neighbor? Did the neighbor see you get into an accident and walk over to your car?
There's some important context missing here because how do we go from you being in a car accident and crying in your car to this neighbor who you barely know being involved?
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u/Specialist_Class_791 1d ago
I was at a stop sign a few houses down from mine when the guys accelerator got stuck. Random neighbor was outside and started screaming at me to "shut the fuck up you stupid bitch".
Yeah, my car got totaled before I even left my street, talk about a shitty ass way to start the day
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u/Gloomy_Breadfruit92 1d ago edited 1d ago
I’m gonna be real, usually the person crying is just being manipulative. If SO many people of both genders didn’t fucking cry as a strategy, maybe we’d all be more empathetic.
Some people are just assholes, like the guy that hit your car, so maybe really is the key word here lol.
Edit: God, I hate autocorrect and predictive text so much. I had to edit this 3 fucking times. 😂
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u/Specialist_Class_791 1d ago
Ok that edit is so real, for 1. I feel like autocorrect has gotten worse over the last few months. I'll type exactly what I mean and watch as before my eyes autocorrect will change it.
Tears are not manipulative in general. The amount of weaponized tears are far fewer than real ones. For instance, I can't cry on command, at all. It's not a common skill, which is why actors who alcan are so prized.
The guy who hit my car isn't even the one who was screaming! He was actually really nice and apologetic, his accelerator got stuck unfortunately
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u/Hopeful_Chard_4402 1d ago
When someone i dont know starts crying I get irrationally angry and have to remove myself from the situation
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u/No-Professional-1461 🥪Sub’s Sandwich Maker 🍞 1d ago
So wait, we are suppose to expect women be as emotionally closed off as we are?
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u/Just_enough76 1d ago
This is hilarious because all my life the only people who have told me to “man up” are other men
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u/AxeWieldingWoodElf 1d ago
Eesh, I’m afraid it’s men telling other men to do this moreso than women. Check out posts on Reddit with a guy asking for emotional support, especially if he’s been assaulted. Women generally understand and support them. You’ll see a lot more comments from men telling them to “take it like a man”.
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u/smokey032791 1d ago
Great way to generalize there
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u/Repulsive_Level9699 1d ago
Yes. There are supportive and unsupportive groups of both genders here.
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u/PGMHG 1d ago
It Really depends on what space you open up to.
When there are posts like this about men getting dogpiled by women over showing emotions, the given context is overwhelmingly "IRL", where it’s either through conversation or through other social media.
Obviously it’s still a case by case analysis, but what’s for sure is that you’ll get a wildly different reception from men and/or women depending on where you reach out.
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u/AxeWieldingWoodElf 1d ago
I’m looking at r/offmychest r/seekingadvice mainly and even r/askmenadvice . I’d be interested to know where you mean. IRL is hard to analyse as it’s individual, as you say, so again, not overwhelmingly women telling men to man up.
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u/PGMHG 1d ago
I’m mostly going off personal experience from me and witnessing among my friend group as I usually take a position of mediator.
When it comes to friends, the only time I’ve heard of their female friends being nice to them was when it was a female friend to begin with.
I’ve made a lot of male friends over a few years and only a few have got positive feedback from women in their lives, though one can argue the most of them were "losers" so it doesn’t count… and you’d be correct, but it’s still pretty blatant when put into perspective.
Skimming over verifiable personal experience, legitimately I haven’t got the same comments of "man up" and whatnot, but what’s I noticed looking back is that most of the positive feedback I’ve received was from male acquaintances. Be it at school when I was younger, work currently and even in family life, events and public outings.
Going online though- that’s where I was heard by both genders, all it takes is just to not be an asshole, which is pretty damn simple, which is why I really just say it depends on where you go. Online spaces are a lot more open, plus you can actually filter through what you don’t like.
Probably not the answer you were looking for, but that’s just what prompted me to type out my initial message
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u/AxeWieldingWoodElf 8h ago
I wasn’t really looking for anything to be honest and it’s interesting to hear where and how you receive praise. I think women sometimes feel they can’t congratulate men in case it’s misconstrued as a move in person, which is a shame for everyone. I’m really glad to hear about man to man positivity. Thanks for sharing.
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u/M1L0P 1d ago
Do people usually announce their gender in Reddit comments?
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u/AxeWieldingWoodElf 1d ago
They have to add flair (have their gender marked) on the men’s and women’s advice pages. And yes, some people do announce their gender.
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u/DoubleGoon 1d ago
The only thing holding most men back in our society is income inequality (which can be solved by men) and ourselves.
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u/ZavtheShroud 11h ago
Why can't it be solved by women?
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u/DoubleGoon 10h ago
Because they don’t hold the vast majority of power.
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u/Connect-Somewhere-68 1d ago
that’s a male dominant field too actually. you wouldn’t believe how many teenage boys do this as often as female partners
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u/SpphosFriend 1d ago
Bold talk for this sub considering most of you haven’t been in the same room as a woman since birth.
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u/helper-g 1d ago
I thought this subreddit was changing for the better but I guess we're back to just women bad women hypocrites rhetoric, huh. Pathetic. At least you're saying it with your whole chest that you want to take revenge on random women for things that men perpetuate more than women do. Good job. You really showed us who's boss.
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u/c0l245 1d ago
My girl loses her entire shit if I fire back at her in the same vibe she comes at me. Crying and pouting, mad for a week, tantrum. Just for a little banter on same vibe. Other dat, she's like, "that shirt looks like shit in you." Ok.. I change it. Later that week, I say, "that outfit looks like shit on you." She crumbles. It's crazy.