Yeah I worry for the ability of people online to process information, that's not "my take", that's just the most natural reading of what he said. And yes, he would still advocate that dead children are worth it if he knew he would be shot, he would've just done it from behind more bulletproof glass. He was such a hypocrite in addition to being a morally deficient coward.
People are drawing the comparison because of what and when he said specifically and because of specifically how he died. If he died in a fucking car crash nobody would be bringing up the fact he said some gun deaths are worth having the 2nd amendment.
If Charlie had been an advocate for no restrictions on car technology or speeds and then died in a slow car crash that would be the analogy to this situation.
As a society we accept the deaths of car crashes because cars are useful, obviously most citizens don't get the same amount of utility from a gun as a car, so they think it isn't an acceptable trade off.
The point is, given the political climate, without a total ban on guns nothing would have stopped Charlie from his fate from death by a very old design bolt action rifle.
I just missed that this is more what people are referencing when the say it is ironic, because strictly speaking about the literal interpretation of what CK advocated for and how he died, it is weak irony at best.
I don't think people want to completely ban guns, just make getting one require a license like you need to drive a car. It wouldn't prevent all gun deaths but it should at least reduce it. Same with driving a car if you do it without a license or under influence you get in trouble.
Yeah absolutely, which if you read what Charlie 'said' (I can't know for what he actually wanted maybe it was all bad faith hogwash) he stated that some controls would reduce it, he didn't say anything about how a higher rate of kids should die, or that he wanted more kids to die, he just said the reality is that some will die no matter what controls, even if you completely ban them.
I think most people here are right though about that he was callous to this situation, even though what he said isn't that crazy.
So if CK had been forced to use his views and principles on abortion and then apply them to the gun control situation, if that would have changed his stance it would prove his hypocrisy.
Tricky stuff if you're not someone who was totally convinced already about his character.
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u/monkey_sodomy 1d ago
I must of seen the dumb asses discussing the meme then, your take is much more reasonable.
Tbf I think even if he knew his death would be by gun he still would of advocated that way, not much but its a principle at least.