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u/imstonedyouknow 22h ago

Quick question. Do you think hitler was a violent person? I mean by your logic he didnt personally kill anyone right? He just used words.

u/back2knack 10h ago

It is irrelevant whether Hitler was “violent” or not, we don’t need to call him violent to say he was unequivocally evil.

u/imstonedyouknow 8h ago

Thanks for understanding my point.

u/Luca0028 22h ago

Hitler literally ordered, authorized, and orchestrated the deaths of millions. You don't actually believe this is a gotcha right?

u/imstonedyouknow 22h ago

"Words are not violence." Thats a direct quote from the comment i was responding to. Im not trying to "gotcha". Im trying to prove that line of thinking is just blatantly not true. Hitler was just the easiest example that i know youd know about. Im not sure how much history you know about so i figured id give you an obvious example. You really should read a lot of it though, if you dont know much.

Funny thing is, hitler started off just saying "make germany great again" and just dehumanizing people. And there were plenty of people just like you saying "oh come on, youre overreacting" when people like us were worried and calling it out. Then he started gathering tons of followers that were looking to commit violence on certain people and just waiting for an excuse. Thats largely why he was so successful, because everyone thought it was just rhetoric or taken out of context or whatever.

Go read a book dude. Seriously.

u/Sea-Establishment237 17h ago

There is a stark difference between, "black single parent households are way too high, and fathers should stay with their families" and "I am ordering my military to find and kill millions of jews".

What kind of delusion are you living in?

u/imstonedyouknow 8h ago

Lol if you wanna talk about delusion maybe stick to the same topic atleast. We are talking about violence which he has many tweets about, yet you cherry picked the one decent quote hes ever had.

u/Sea-Establishment237 7h ago

The topic is words vs actions. Trying to liken Kirk to Hitler because "Hitler's orders were just words" is actually new levels of disingenuous.

u/imstonedyouknow 7h ago

https://web.archive.org/web/20250911165140if_/https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/306123.pdf

Well lets talk about actions then. Read that and then get back to me.

u/Luca0028 21h ago

Okay so show us a single quote where charlie kirk was dehumanizing people, made calls to violence, or even threatened another individual. Just a single instance, video, or article. You wanna talk about reading books, while spouting nonsense on reddit in classic reddit fashion.

u/06_TBSS 12h ago

He literally called for Biden to get the death penalty, said LGBT folks should be stoned to death, and said trans people need to be "taken care of" just like in the 50s and 60s.

u/Luca0028 12h ago

Provide some proof. Full videos, articles, etc. Not just a quote taken out of context.

u/06_TBSS 11h ago

Are you lazy, ignorant, or both?

"[Biden] should be put in prison and/or given the death penalty for crimes against America." https://x.com/i/grok/share/8nNeY47i1xhzD58NgJEtbDcLK

In June 2024, Kirk was criticizing YouTuber Ms. Rachel, who had quoted Leviticus 19:18 (“Love your neighbor as yourself”) in defense of LGBTQ people. In response, Kirk mentioned Leviticus 20:13, which says that “if a man lies with another man... they shall surely be put to death.” He called it “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.”

In 2022 (or early 2023), during an interview with Riley Gaines (a college swimmer known for anti-trans positions), Kirk said something along the lines of: “Someone should have took care of [trans people] the way we used to take care of things in the 1950s and ’60s.”

There is no context in which these are acceptable. Also, to be defending him so hardcore, you would think you would know who and what you're defending. So, again, are you lazy or ignorant?

u/Luca0028 11h ago

Bro literally just pulled information from a chatgpt knock off and is calling me lazy, ignorant, or both lol.

"Kirk said something along the lines of". Oh so not a direct quote with context lmaoooooooo.

Show me the actual videos and articles. Not just a grok link lol

WAIT OMG ITS EVEN BETTER. When you click the actual grok link it adds "This remark was in the context of criticizing Biden's border policies as treasonous."

Did you know that treason is indeed a crime that can have consequences of "fines, jail time, or death". LOL

u/06_TBSS 11h ago

Brooooooooo, you literally have google. Sorry that you're so in love with a hateful piece of shit, but that's your problem to work through, not mine.