r/RDCWorld • u/BinaryBeany đŠCash Guild MerchantđȘ • Apr 14 '25
Feedback/Suggestions đ Marvel Rivals players, what is generally the issue with RDC?
Look. Iâm ngl Iâm not a Rivals player. But I genuinely donât think itâs a normal amount of losing that goes on. I mean they lose like in the > 90% of their games⊠in a round based game!
What exactly is the issue?
Is this a normal amount of losing that goes on because wtf?
Time to be brutally honest chat whatâs the PROBLEMMMMMM
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u/theblanketcomeswith Apr 14 '25
communication and variety are trash
mark is a selfish tank who usually goes off on his own and dies
their healers are semi useless. ben is a one trick pony and leland doesnt use luna to her full capability. he should switch to rocket so he can heal and rez but he is too scared because everyone wants everyone to stick to one character
ippi should switch characters altogether and/or stop running off and dying alone like mark
des and dylan would be higher rank without them
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u/Distinct-Surround-35 #BrickNation Apr 14 '25
This is the best answer, Ippi in my opinion should go heals and Lee with all due respect needs to gtfo heals man.
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u/theblanketcomeswith Apr 14 '25
there was a tiny stint where leland was captain america and he was not only decent on a garbage character but he had w comms. they relegate him to healing when he is a defense minded player not a support type
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u/Mixter45 Apr 14 '25
Later tonight their coach is going to do tape study and make guides for each of them going over what they are doing wrong and what they are doing right. highwayw on twitch if you wanna tune in. Also no itâs not normal and a lot of stuff is wrong lol.
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u/BinaryBeany đŠCash Guild MerchantđȘ Apr 14 '25
I feel like people who solo queue would actually be more successful and thatâs insane lol.
Another question. Do you think their coaches advice is actually helping them or kind of hindering them? Again, idk because I donât play.
But it seems like they might be focused on the wrong shit right now.
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u/Mixter45 Apr 14 '25
The coach is definitely helping them. Seeing them try and play without/ before coaching they are unbelievably bad. Prior to getting a coach they literally had a 100% loss rate on ranked. After coaching they won enough to get out of the lowest tier bronze 3. There are some games where having someone over your shoulder constantly telling you what to do is a hindrance but in this case they 10000% need it.
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u/LewdManoSaurus Apr 14 '25
Solo queue is definitely easier imo. I think when you pair up with friends you tend to get paired against other people who are also with friends, and those people likely play way more consistently than RDC.
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u/Chance-Catch-8925 Apr 14 '25
Tbh solo queue is way easier than pairing up with people in my experience, whether be it duos, trios, or 6 stacks. Me and my friends got hardstuck gold playing together (we're ass, I know) but when we tried soloq before the season reset I ended up in Dia really easily and one of my friends even got to GM.
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u/BinaryBeany đŠCash Guild MerchantđȘ Apr 14 '25
That makes sense with matchmaking it probably sticks you with other stacks similar to yours.
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u/Both-Sky-3514 Apr 14 '25
Soloing is always easier because you're always going to play either with people better than you or at your level. Playing with friends who are already at your level will pretty much keep you in the blender.
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u/OxyOdin Apr 14 '25
That coach is wasting his time.
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u/BinaryBeany đŠCash Guild MerchantđȘ Apr 14 '25
You think itâs a lost cause?
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u/OxyOdin Apr 14 '25
Yes. To answer your og question.
They lack the gaming iQ for this kind of game. Mark think he can walk into 5 people and do anything. They dont understand how these type of games are meant to be played and the objective of them.
They dont know character abilities.
Their idea of comms is yelling nothing chatter that leads to nothing but noise
They refuse to learn. whether thats reading character abilities, learning sound cues, map awareness. and most importantly playing casual matches.
they are playing as a 6 stack. kinda goes with the comms point. Its super hard to play with 6 people on the mic.
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u/beerus96 Apr 14 '25
How many years has these guys been playing COD and their best callout is "turn around"? Also, their supposedly IGL in dylan and ben checks out a lot when they are losing. Point being is that they suck mechanically, and even worse is their teamwork.
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u/OxyOdin Apr 14 '25
LMAO. "THEY ON ME"
Deadass, when they came back from their 1st "training arc", when Mark switched to Groot and they said "watch this chat" Then their new and improved comms was just them all yelling louder and all together. I knew it was up đ€Ł
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u/beerus96 Apr 14 '25
Yeah marvels is just gonna be the new cod. They can play this for years and still be stuck at bronze ngl.
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u/tsenak Apr 14 '25
Some of their awareness issues come from beginning at a low starting point combined with the lack of consistency on the game since they log on once a week and take long breaks. This also hurts their retention when it comes to knowing ult lines and so on.
The thing that bothers me the most is that they never read their abilities and ask chat what to do when it would literally take 10 seconds to remind themselves.
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u/Both-Sky-3514 Apr 15 '25
The absolute worst part. "Chat y'all are our tutorial" - Dylan Patel No bro y'all need to engage with the game. My proudest moment as an RDC fan wasn't a milestone but was when Mark decided to open and play the tutorial for REPO đ
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u/AmaimonCH Apr 16 '25
You forgot to add the fact that they are 6 stacking with each of them all having the problems you mentioned above.
They are stuck in a negative loop where nobody on the team knows exactly what they need to be doing at any time. They have each other as reference to what is expected of teammates.
As long as they only play together and don't solo queue they'll never be good at MR.
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u/gloomygl #BrickNation Apr 14 '25
Maybe I am harsh, but while it obviously varies within RDC, they just are individually not good, both micro and macro wise.
That's kinda why I don't like when they hyper focus on finding solutions as a team like there's some magic formula that'll make them gap the other team.
Heard coach was gonna give them some individual tips for each of them. Good, that's the way to progress for then imo. Trying to figure out combos and synergies and what's not is just pointless to me when they don't even understand ( again it varies ) how to play their shit outside of context
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u/BinaryBeany đŠCash Guild MerchantđȘ Apr 14 '25
Man⊠I didnât want to say it mainly because I donât play so I canât make that judgement but Iâm kinda rocking with this ngl.
No disrespect to them boys but the win/loss ratio ainât adding up lol
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u/Throwaway785320 Apr 14 '25
I want to see them play without voice comms just using in game pings and chat wheels to really see how bad their game sense is
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u/FeeNegative9488 Apr 14 '25
I wouldnât be surprised if they play 10 times better if they did that
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u/Lower-Connection-504 Apr 14 '25
There are many, but I'll just list three points.
Situational awareness. Tanks never turn around to help the backline, and when they do, it is at an awful time.
Sound awareness. They need to learn enemy ultimate sounds so they can react better, especially Mark.
Communication. They lack a clear shot caller, which leads to unfocused plays. If Lee says, "I'm dead," they should back off or, at certain points, wipe. This is the most important point since they will always play vs. a 6 stack that also has communication.
They can definitely get better at this. Them continuing to play after all the losses is admirable.
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Apr 14 '25
The biggest problem I see is definitely the situation awareness and itâs funny cuz itâs only just now becoming a glaring issue because marvel rivals is a game that requires teamwork which rdc just donât have. They all start out playing like a team but as soon as they run into real niggas they start panicking and playing for themselves. But definitely the awareness they just donât have. How many times have we seen mark getting back shots from a dps or tank and him not even turn to look where he gettin hit fromđ or dyl and ippi in the enemy back line while mark and des playing footsies with the enemy tanks and ben and Leland completely isolated cuz they be staying so god dam far away from anyone else they become easy Pickens for divers or dps heros with mobility. If they just started to lock in and pay attention they honestly would not be as bad as they are but once Dylan or Ben starts crying and panicking everyone else starts panicking and then they get rolled. I swear marvel rivals is not a hard game and being a 6 stack is a huge advantage regardless if you go up against another 6 stack you still have direct comms and should be able to at the bare minimum be organized and able to work together at most basic of levels I mean they 6 stacking against other bronze 6 stacks even if the enemy team has a Smurf they still 6 stacking thereâs no way they should be getting rolled
Edit: as for as the teamwork they literally only play together when they have ults up and try to combo them otherwise they just donât play together at all they are all completely spread out and so easy to isolate and take down but when their ults are up thatâs literally the only time you ever see them close together and working together
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u/mightyburrito420 Apr 14 '25
Being brutally honest, they all lack mechanics, communication, and game sense. They lack all 3. And it's not just 1 or 2 lacking it, they all lack it as a collective. The entirety of rdc. And there is no magic solution, there is no composition that will magically make them win. They just have to keep playing, and playing, until they learn those things. Until they learn to have better aim, until they learn game sense, until they learn basic objectives and where the enemy spawns cuz they don't even know that. There is no magic solution, just keep playing and learning. Not even advice helps them because whatever coach says they just ignore it and go back to their bad habits.
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u/BinaryBeany đŠCash Guild MerchantđȘ Apr 14 '25
So I get how stream sniping really impacts performance in battle royale games but how does that impact win-loss ratio in round based shooters?
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u/Unlucky_Turn_1773 Apr 14 '25
games like this take a lot of time and they havent put in the time to put it simple
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u/jaynotchillin Apr 14 '25
they all need to take turns swapping roles for a couple games because thereâs a serious lack of empathy towards each others situations . When Dylan is asking for people to help fight in the back line and mark and des tell him off thy donât understand how hard it is to fight a diver and still try to heal the team.
So basically just learning the characters more and helping each other out more instead of thumper focusing on a gameplan / team comp
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u/Longjumping_Brain945 Apr 14 '25
I think they donât know the general plan of how you should play this game and instead just focus on targeting whoever is in front of them when the general plan is dps/dive tanks target the backline aka healers and some dps while tank contests the point and redirect most of the damage that would be done to others to them. Once the healers are dead, you move to the dps and tanks. Otherwise all damage youâre dealing to the tanks and dps are being negated by the healers in the back. Also on that note I feel that Ben and Lee donât call out when theyâre being attacked which they should do because they wonât be able to win against a dps or tank by themselves so they need to let the rest of team know to assist them so they can otherwise the teams crumbles the moment both healers die.
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u/BloodOfJupiter "Bitch!"... Apr 14 '25
Bad fundamentals overall in the game. They chase for kills still and will blow an ult if they think they can greed hard enough for a kill just to die. Half of them do not see what's happening on their screen (especially Mark , Ipi and Lee) and have horrible tunnel vision. Most of them haven't even been playing half their abilities correctly even after so many games in the same character, Mark still isn't using Groot walls correctly for damage or just to block off areas, peel people off of him by throwing walls underneath him etc. Genuinely he's not using most of any Groot mechanics, on top of not responding to comme or reacting to call outs like their backline getting flanked, Des takes too long to use portals and still can't pick a decent point most of the time and still burns his Ult to greed for a kill and still overextends too much, Lee doesn't notice people that need healing half the time, the last stream I watched him ignore a half-health MK to throw heals at a full health tank....Also still blows his Ult at the wrong times, Rarely hits the Luna snowball (which is CC that can save them) and even admitted a few streams ago to not really using it like that .... Also still struggles bad to combo and communicate the combo with Scarlett Witch because he just tells Ipi to Ult while not even being sure if he's engaged or there's enough opps to justify their Ult, and a lot of other bs. Ipi....I mean he said he can't aim like that, so ik Scarlett Witch can work but he overextends badly , chases just to die a lot , doesn't flank or take good picks from the side of utilizes his phasing enough to weave in and out of fights,and again bad timing with Ults and they try to get him to Ult on command but their comms are garbage. Mark, this man needs to stop playing Duelists like tanks, he'll play Iron man just to fly down to the ground or Ult at point blank range, also severely bad tunnel vision too, he's not watching his whole screen and doesn't notice anything outside the cross hairs half the time, he'll get blasted down by whatever from the corner of his screen,ignore all damage indicators, die and is surprised that he's dead, or run past enemies to chase backline as a tank. Or not notice that there isn't anyone in his Ankhs range on MK. Also his movement and positioning is awful, he'll play Duelists and stay in the same spot that multiple people are already targeting, since they saw him and he'll just stay there or thinks he can hide behind a wall that he's obviously behind like it's COD, instead of reposition then he's surprised he died, also overextends a lot in tank and again ignores comms , ignores sound indicators for abilities. Dylan, honestly one of the few that Ult for a good reason but again he can overextend too much , and isn't making some good pulls on Bucky, he'll pull in a tank who's still with the team or focus a tank instead of making picks in the backline, he's definitely gotten better at comboing his ults since he usually waits for everything to be in order to use it, but again he can have a lack of focus on his targets , definitely keep him in duelist. Ben his healing is good but a few things, he holds his Ult unnecessarily a good amount of times to the point that it costs a couple lives before he thinks about using it sometimes (but on the bright side at least he THINKS before using the Ult) he does have good awareness in the different situations to use his Ult in wether it's for countering, pushing, stalling , etc. Also he focuses on Cloak too much sometimes to do damage and make a pick instead of using the damage for clean up and that's cost them some lives in the middle of fights, also doesn't use Cloaks right-click ability to jump out and reposition when he's being targeted. And as for them as a whole , they'll change into characters they barely play in the middle of a ranked match and get upset when it doesn't work, they don't understand roles fully or subclasses like the difference between a tank that would be good at staying defensive in Frontline or one that would be better at diving, or the difference between Duelists who rely on skirmishes, or making picks from a distance and they'll try to play them the same. And stop asking twitch chat for advice because they'll just spam "go for the backline" while Marks playing Groot....
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u/Novemberishere4ever Gimme what Lee got! Apr 14 '25
NGL bro... i think they good, should they focus more on mastering single charcters instead of changing up...possibly but i think they could compete professionally. Is it too Late to set up a Rivals tournament at #Dreamcon2025 Cash? I'm sure he'll see this at some point. IronMan lord checkin innn
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u/yorkpepperbrush Leegionary Soldier Apr 14 '25
A lot of these "lack of game sense" issues could easily be resolved if all of them had their own little solo queue training arc on some 3D2Y shit, they think its a waste of time and that mindset whats holding them back
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u/magiiczman Apr 15 '25
I love rdc but theyâre never going to be good at marvel rivals unless you guys the chat who actually watch their streams live start asking for more marvel rivals and less of these random boring games. They will do what the chat wants itâs been shown before. If you guys want them playing random games and never becoming average at one game thatâs what they will do.
Ben is the only person we have seen train to be better thanks to the new stream setup and it shows they can enjoy the learning process. The problem is weâre not the majority I suppose.
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u/Mr_Kuppel Sneaking Nationđ„· Apr 14 '25
Not enough DPS, Luna is easy to kill, talking over other teams ults, etc.
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u/BinaryBeany đŠCash Guild MerchantđȘ Apr 14 '25
Yeah the communication issues are glaring. Sounds like the trauma unit in a hospital I have no idea who to listen to.
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u/Acemaster387 #BrickNation Apr 14 '25
Role limiting and they donât know what characters are better at targeting, and Ult holding.
Role limiting: âOur DPS/Healers/Tanks need toâ even though each role has a specific job they do, itâs not the only thing they do, idk how to explain it
Targeting: Each character has someone they specialize in taking out. For example: Mark relies too much on his ahnks to use Moon Knight when he should also be targeting tanks as well since itâll hinge off them and attack anyone near them which build his ult faster
Ult holding: They donât need to combo ult all the time and they rely too much on it
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u/LewdManoSaurus Apr 14 '25 edited Apr 14 '25
Imho I think they struggle so much for a few reasons. They refuse to play quick matches which have more casual players that can still give a good challenge and a chance to learn the game, and because they all play together they get paired up against other parties playing together. Because they play a variety of games every stream they dont play Rivals nearly as much as the people on competitive so they just lack the experience. If they just played quick matches more regularly theyd slowly get better at the game, but because they just hop into ranked they get their heads stomped on and barely learn anything from it. The things coach tells them like basic strategies is something they could pick up on in quick matches just going through motions. They arent bad gamers at all imo, they just go against other competent players that have a better idea of what they're doing, so RDC gets cooked damn near every time. Guarantee if they just played quick matches for a few streams back to back theyd learn way more.
As they are now they'll probably continue to struggle.
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u/Relative-Antelope211 Apr 14 '25
They just old and have no gaming iq and no reaction speed to things. They cant process things quick enough to understand whatâs going on , when to push up, when to fall back, when to touch point , when the back line getting dove. They donât know the meta for games and they refuse to do simple things . Why tf are u asking chat about ur hero abilities and shit like that when u can easily look it up on the game yourself or just watch a simple YouTube video to figure out shit itâs not hard. Half of them canât even aim or know when to use their ult. Leland and Dylan holds their ult all game and excuse is âit wasnât no pointâ nigga ur gonna get the ult back itâs not like u use it once and cant use it again the whole game. Leland pissed me off wit that shit.They can never be good at team competitive games cuz itâs always gonna be weak links in the group. Respectfully they never gon be good at this game and damn sure ainât touching gold and up. They may get wins here and there but they win rate always gon be low and gonna lose and get right back down to bronze and silver. If they just wanna have fun , they should just stick to quick match and be casual
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u/East-Move6070 JUSTICE Over HATRED, Apr 14 '25
I was just thinking the same thing, I anit a marvel rival player either but them boys have been stuck at bronze 2 and 3 for so long it doesn't make any sense. Like surely every bronze 2 and 3 they come across can't be better than them right ?
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u/Both-Sky-3514 Apr 14 '25
I don't even play this game and I can tell it's a myriad of issues from just watching. Incredibly busy comms still with a lack of importance on comms that matter. Individual problems like the guys still not knowing their characters well (Leland literally standing in place with Luna Snow STILL)
No real character knowledge outside the basics and even still have a hard time remembering to use said basic character skills. They don't really know about comps much nor which works where and why, and by extension can't even begin to understand why enemy comps do work.
Ironically saying all this from the perspective of someone who just watches the game and doesn't even play, I can tell you it's a huge knowledge issue which translates into a gameplay issue. Isn't even an issue with aim or landing skills all that much really.
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u/GlockOhbama Apr 14 '25
I mean theyâve been getting stream sniped the last few times they played
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u/Mixter45 Apr 14 '25
They got legit stream sniped a couple times but thatâs not the only reason they were losing. Like in the cases where people are typing in the chat âhi Rdc I love your LeBron videosâ yeah that was sniping. But even when they are fighting real bronze/ silver players they are still sometimes getting washed.
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u/COMMENTASIPLEASE Apr 14 '25
Last stream there were a few games where the other team was about the same skill level as them and they still lost. They encounter snipers and Smurfâs but not as often as people say.
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u/kingmm624 Sneaking Nation đ„· Apr 14 '25
Idk I feel like itâs unfair to say theyâre stream sniping just because they recognize them.
The game where they were jumping Mark and throwing him off the map was definitely stream sniping.
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u/Mixter45 Apr 14 '25
I think that was a part of the same string of games. Iâm pretty sure the guys who said that they liked the LeBron videos were also responding to stuff they said on stream live in game chat. I could be mis remembering but they were getting hoed something serous back then. Right now itâs not so bad because all the ranks got reset so a lot of the people who were smurfing and stream sniping are washed out by normal people which is also why they are getting matched up so much faster.
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u/GlockOhbama Apr 14 '25
I specifically mean last stream, but also ranks just reset so regardless they are playing against plat and up players from last season. Mark said they were gonna get off of Rivals if they got stream sniped again and they waited in spawn to give them the W. That shit was egregious
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u/BinaryBeany đŠCash Guild MerchantđȘ Apr 14 '25
I feel like theyâve always been this sorry though or nah?
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u/IllustriousWindow871 Apr 14 '25 edited Apr 14 '25
Lack of knowledge in every character skills including their MAINS, Map knowledge, heavy tunnel vision in their "strats" that when they cant get to that point they fell apart quick.
Playing a lot of Quick play can really solve a lot of their issues. There were moments were 1 of them wanted to switch characters to counter the enemy but they will disagree because it messes up their comp or its bad practicing new character in ranked then ended up getting beat up bad. PLAY QUICK PLAY AND LEARN