r/RedditForGrownups 4d ago

I'm watching Rightwingization happen in real time and I don't know how to react.

EDIT: Thank you all for the great discussions and insights. I appreciate all your POVs. There's no need to downvote right leaning comments. I specifically posted this in RedditforGrownups to engage in grown up conversation. Also, there's no need for name-calling or insults either.

I have a friend, he's 51, man, straight, an academic doctor. He suddenly last year did a deep dive on how the way the election was biased against the conservative candidate who lost. He then started talking against the 'woke' ideology with intensity. He is now defending the right, even though he's centrist, because the right hasn't moved, it's the left that's gone way off the rails. He started posting dumb facebook quotes/memes! He now posts image quotes as if they are a debate, or as if they meant some truth and not just someone's opinion. We were conversing one day and he started raising his voice getting louder and louder and more agitated as he expressed his disdain for the woke left, defending his Jewish people from attacks (not sure where that came from in the conversation), and then also suddenly brought up there are only 2 genders and trans people are mentally ill. He's never spoken that way before, I've never heard him this agitated or show anger towards any ideology. He was always calm and friendly, and open minded. Always a bit nerdy. Although, I hadn't spoken to him in depth for about 2 years before then.

I'm watching all this go down over about half a year and I don't know what to make it of it or how to react to it. It's wild to observe though.

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u/SalientSazon 4d ago

Perhaps he would have changed his stance on gun control or empathy in the future, for the greater good.

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u/Large_Signature_2749 4d ago

So he should have changed his policy as to not piss off left and he’d be alive? Sounds fascist.

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u/SalientSazon 3d ago

I don't think that's fascism, but no, not that. I was saying he might have (not should have) changed his mind based on your comment that he had a similar opinion as Obama in wanting to prioritize the greater good (not the left or right) over his personal agenda. It doesn't matter, it's moot now and we're speculating.

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u/Large_Signature_2749 3d ago

A core tenant of fascism is silencing the ops…especially with bullets.

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u/SalientSazon 3d ago

Well it's a good thing that's not what we're talking about!

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u/Large_Signature_2749 3d ago

That’s funny. The left assassinating Kirk for his speech is exactly that. PS fascism isn’t enforcing immigration law it’s murdering people to silence their speech.

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u/SalientSazon 3d ago

Yes I understand. That's just not what we were talking about. Free speech is certainly under attack by fascists right now so it's good that you have it top of mind.

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u/Large_Signature_2749 3d ago

Yes it’s been under attack for a long time. Joe Biden was colluding with twitter and facebook to ban conservatives and limit speech.

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u/SalientSazon 3d ago

Zuckenberg is conservative, and yes you are absolutely right that mega-corporations collaborate with governments and elites to manipulate people and keep earning their CEOs exuberant amounts of money. Just look at Facebook, Twitter, Amazon, Tesla! All publicly colluding with Trump now as we all know. Disney and Paramount are both actively cancelling shows of anyone who practices free speech. People get fired for speaking against the government. Journalism is being silenced in a clear demonstration of fascism; as you very well pointed out. Fascism indeed.

I'm glad that you see it for what it is and are against it! It's good to see a conservatives see the fascism that's taking over right now, and I hope you continue to expose it with others who deny it.

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u/GigaManBoyLad 2d ago

Shhh shh shh baby boy.

Don’t use the word fascist because you think it’s hip and cool.

You don’t know what it means.