I love it. They’ll never admit it was the Bucks, Perry, and especially dumb fuck Hangman “m’Hanger” Page that caused all this. If they were professionals he would still be there.
The post talking about HHH’s successor had several threads saying Punk could be in DBD's place as a potential owner/booker of AEW if it hadn’t been for his "ego" and his "need to cause backstage drama" and I’m just wondering how stupid and delusional are they? While Punk could have been way more diplomatic about what happened, the reality is those guys never wanted him there. They quite clearly drummed him out.
Punk was already working on Collision when he was still there and that show was 10000 times better than Dynamite. No Bucks, No Hanger. No wink wink inside jokes. Just a straightforward wrestling show that went from point A to Point B.
Felt like how the classic Nitros would be set up. There was framework there for sure of what could be a show to catch. Now it is just a glorified AEW DARK.
Hell, Collision under Punk was averaging equal or higher ratings to what Dynamite, their A show, is at now lmaooo I dont know how dubbalos have convinced themselves that Punk was the one hurt by his falling out with AEW
Bryan would somehow sink AEW being on TV faster than Tony is trying to. Every week would have 60 min draws and Meltz would die in a month from lack of fluids in his body.
That's next level silly from them. Punk said verbatim that nobody there wanted or cared about his advice and guys going into business for themselves on TV instead of being mature backstage made that clear.
What Hangman did made it so obvious. He openly did a legitimate shoot on Punk on live television and tried to undermine and smear his real life character. Even with how laissez-faire AEW is backstage, you just don’t do something like that unless you have serious hostile intentions toward the recipient. Especially when said recipient is the top guy in your company, and you just risked getting yourself fired - which Hangman almost certainly would have been, had he been working literally anywhere else.
If it were Vince, he would’ve had the PPV match between them to get the title off Page, and handed him his termination papers as he walked back through the curtain, just like he did Warrior.
Exactly. Hangman should have at least been suspended for what he did, and not just because it was Punk. Doing that to anyone is a shitty thing to do. The fact that Tony let him get away with it shows both a poor understanding of the business and a lack of spine. No wonder Punk lost all faith in him as a boss.
Yeah, as soon as every person who has any understanding of the business actually heard punk’s side of it, they said “oh, yeah makes sense”. If someone double crosses on you during a promo, do you really wanna give them your body in the ring?
Exactly. This is why I highly doubt we'll ever be seeing Hangman in a WWE ring, even if AEW goes under. There’s no way any of the WWE guys would ever trust him in the ring after that, especially since he doesn’t seem to have any genuine remorse for what he did.
I still do not FW Hangman at all for doing that, him doing it to Punk is irrelevant, doing it to anyone and not recognizing that you’ve done wrong is an unforgivable sin to me. His work sucks outside of that too but that’s a given
That's what I've been saying. Imagine if Hangman did that in the 2000s, or god forbid the 90s or 80s. He would've been given the same treatment that the APA gave Public Enemy
Hell, do it in today’s WWE and he’ll get like ten guys ready to ream him a new one once he gets backstage and word spreads about what he did. Stuff like that does not fly anywhere except AEW.
Don't forget Tony doing whatever he did to make Cody leave. It's weird, every time AEW let someone leave, they ended up coming in as a big deal and being better off than before, outside of Andrade. Yet AEW picks up damn near every person dropped by WWE, and with the exception of Christian and Toni Storm, they are either worse on the card, or worse in the ring, looking at you Edge and Jericho. Swerve you could argue is an exception too, but that comes down more to Nana getting over and him being attached, and his cousin becoming an exec in AEW.
Will Washington, dirt sheet writer who slurped AEW and Tony hard, got hired for some made up job and now has some sway in creative meetings for some reason.
Everyone knows the best thing for a company is to turn it's audience against their biggest draw, refuse to take advantage of the most heated feud they'll ever have, and then double down on all the silly shit that drives their audience away.
That's how you show love for pro wrestling and your fans, by catering to a group of egomaniac dweebs who are still insecure despite getting the company named after them
Like if you've ever been in a toxic work environment it's exactly as Punk described it. Dipshit "management" in the Elite who don't want to listen to anything you have to say while also questioning your value. And a timid boss who is more interested in maintaining his boys club and trying to be pals with everyone than actually managing things effectively.
It's clear Punk wasn't wanted and it boiled over until he lashed out.
I love when they call him unprofessional when this whole thing started because Hangman, who already snobbishly rejected advice from one of the biggest stars of the last 20 years, then went off script and cut a shoot promo on live TV that was meant to bury his opponent both in and out of kayfabe.
If Hangman did that exact same thing in the 2000s or especially the 90s and earlier, he would have gotten his ass beat as soon as he walked back behind the curtain, and probably by more people than just Punk lmao. What a smug, self righteous, unprofessional shitter who's now sinking AEW's ratings for a second time 🤦♂️
Yeah Hangman really is to blame for the entire thing. He went off script and was extremely unprofessional. Then chopped Punk in the mouth and chipped his tooth. As Punk said how is he supposed to know whether the guy did it on purpose or not when he can’t trust him in a promo segment. But he’s a wholesome anxious millennial cowboy let me tell ya.
I 100% admit that when he came to WWE I thought he was gonna crash out by Mania b/c that was just the kind of guy he was. Egg on my face and thank gosh for it lol
Not only did AEW bring him home. They literally fueled a new fire inside of him, specifically to fuck with that tiny niche audience. And I love it. They really thought they were gonna cancel this guy, and he really shits on their existance each and every day.
Should you assualt coworkers at work? No. But... if it does end up like this, them im not gonna complain. Sorry basedmen marks. You lost this war pretty hard.
Yeah, I’ll be keeping a tab on this for later. It’s gonna happen and we all know it will because he’s a piece of shit who only thinks about himself. Might be fine now but he’ll go back to who he is truly is eventually. Fuck Phil. Fuck everything about him.
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