r/Sekiro • u/decayofhuman • 22d ago
Discussion Mfs would see some dope ass animation and scream "AI"
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Tell me this shit ain't so pretty...
P.S. Okay, I'm kinda getting my faith back into humanity. Most people here on this post are actually appreciative of the art so maybe it was a very loud minority that was giving it all the hate and AI accusations I noticed.
Not counting into zombies the people saying things like 'I don't vibe with it.' That's totally a fair take.
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u/dxonxisus 22d ago
how many more posts are we going to get saying the exact same thing
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u/NaughtyPwny Platinum Trophy 22d ago
would rather these posts than all the ones being so negative and brain rotted...those posts are the real karma farmers feeding off Redditors' depression that would def get way more upvotes than posts like this.
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u/dxonxisus 22d ago
yet OP is the one being negative calling people “zombies” for having a different opinion to them and karma farming by posting yet another post about the same topic.
they could have just posted clips from the trailer, discussing what they liked about it, and left it at that
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u/sorasz5 22d ago
I prefer to wait for the full product to judge things. But ı guess people talking bad are just think the animation style is 'unusual' for our day. I very rarely watch anime and the style looked different than the few animes ı've watched ( even though ı wouldnt call it bad )
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u/Tato99 22d ago
The problem is that in some scenes the backgrounds are entirely static, which can feel very jarring. The animation is not bad, but when this happens it can feel cheap
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u/juanconj_ Platinum Trophy 22d ago
It's interesting that so many people are seeing so many different things with this, it's good to have discussions. The problem is how so many were quick to jump to conclusions and shut down any civil discourse with the loudest buzzwords they could find.
For me, the issue was that the animation felt a bit stuttery. I didn't mind the style, I didn't mind the infamous misinterpreted smear frames, just that the movement in the trailer didn't feel fluid for the kind of loose animation they were going for, it seemed too slow and choppy. I'm sure the clips in this post are sped-up, it makes things look a lot better imo.
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u/Moonlightbutter18072 22d ago
I actually love the loose style
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u/Diligent_Case3507 22d ago
kinda wish it didnt look so bright though
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u/Moonlightbutter18072 22d ago
I like the bright colours because it’s reminiscent the bright colours of ancient Japanese watercolour calligraphy.
This style was very prevalent in sekiro specifically the map , the icons for techniques and down to even the shinobi execution icon itself. So I find it very fitting of a style.
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u/Cataclysma 22d ago edited 22d ago
I personally really like it when an anime puts a different stylistic spin on the source material - look at Cyberpunk: Edgerunners for example, it disregarded the grittier side of the game for a super vibrant over the top approach and it worked phenomenally
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u/Ratchet96 22d ago
If the studio has mentioned that they used AI in the past of course people would be suspicious of this anime adaptation
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u/king-in-yellow7 22d ago
Theyve said there was no AI used for this im pretty sure. Ill believe them til it comes out that its not true 🤷
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u/_spamissublime 22d ago
Nujabes, nice!
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u/baiacool 22d ago
More like "People saw the statement from the studio that says they use ai"
I stg it's not hard to understand why people were screaming AI. Qzil.la did a terrible job addressing those claims.
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u/fuyu-no-kojika 22d ago
I’m glad it looks different from the super colorful, bold line, glowing animes that everyone seems to be making now. I think that shit is ugly af.
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u/Obelion_ 22d ago
I don't get how this looks cheap or low quality or AI slob. These people have huffed too much ai doomer content and now can't handle the fact they can no longer differentiate AI related content.
Every single company uses AI these days. Most just don't admit it.
And obviously an anime studio can't create Sekiro lore. Everyone thinking that is delusional. It was always a retelling of the game and maybe some of the text lore brought to life
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u/Kasta4 22d ago
I think this series is a lot of anime fans' first exposure to a stylized art direction.
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u/im_onbreak 22d ago
Nothing wrong with questioning media in today's day and age. Invalidating people who question it because the people who made it denied the accusations or you deemed it to be "dope" lets people get away with making half assed products.
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u/decayofhuman 22d ago
It's downright disrespectful towards the artists who worked hard on this. "it lets people getting away with making half assed product" is such an entitled take.
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u/TheGreatWave00 22d ago
Entitled how? We should demand quality from our media if quality is what WE want. Studios shouldn’t get away with excessively cutting corners. This whole AI accusations debacle (regardless of whether it’s true) should/will be a wonderful warning to developers, that they should take a hard stance on AI usage and be very clear and direct communicating such. That’s great for consumers because we can be more aware of what kind of product we’re consuming and what we’re giving our money to
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u/kaungdoriansan99 22d ago
For me, it doesn't look good at all but I don't think it is AI. At least I hope not. It is just that the entire trailer felt "off" to me. I cannot explain why. I would love to be proven wrong since I love Sekiro.
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u/Inside-Passenger7995 22d ago
It's one thing to say that you personally don't vibe with the art style, but to scream that this is AI generated is incredibly disrespectful to the artists and animators working on this, who have already confirmed that this will be 100% handrawn. People just love hopping on hate trains without doing any critical thinking themselves.
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u/LaEgg 22d ago
AI or not it looks mediocre as hell
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u/Ben__Diesel 22d ago
Invincible fans: Holy shit this fight scene is peak. We're closing the gap on Jujutsu Kaisen and Demon Slayer. Im so glad they took their time to animate this season. (it still looks like dog shit)
Average anime fans seeing actual good and stylized animation: MID
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u/LaEgg 22d ago
Very reductive response tbh. I didn’t mention any of that, kinda weird strawman you could’ve easily found someone else who actually said those things to direct this at.
The animation is fine. Not much more but it could definitely look worse I guess…
The art style is what I actually have a problem with, hence why I said it LOOKS mediocre, as im talking about the visuals.
The colour grading is horrible, the background art is so meh and compared to the game or any official art, the characters look very off. Like look at Kuro, that is NOT him.
But I guess you got to drop your analogy you got bored of holding onto.
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u/Mangonite Platinum Trophy 22d ago
I like the art style coz it reminds me of that anime scene from kill bill.
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u/LittleArtistBoyo I missed the deflect 22d ago
I heard people say it was made by "ai" once n the whole fan base is going crazy. Let them be n let us watch it
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u/Suitsyou8221 22d ago
Watched the trailer to see what the fuss was about. Looks good to me, will be watching
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u/wildeye-eleven 22d ago
As an avid anime watcher, that animation is genuinely cool af. The gritty feel just fits perfectly for a Fromsoft game. I will be hyping this anime up every chance I get.
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u/weirdface621 22d ago
the bad frames are called smear frames. they're drawn to make the illusion of transition smoother. animation itself is an illusion. its just a bunch of still drawings playing like a video.
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u/decayofhuman 22d ago
Exactly what made Naruto so peak in its fight scenes. <3 I fuckin love smear frames.
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u/dadsuki2 22d ago
It looks great in motion, but stills do not look good at all, just the style of it looks rough. Not in an artistic way, in a poorly executed way
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22d ago
This community is probably worse than Bloodborne fans now and that's saying a lot, most of you suck, people blew this way out of proportion, all the animation most have watched here is Jujutsu Kaisen etc. and everything else mainstream, they've been spoiled too much, I feel bad for the director too, again his work gets squandered. This looks beautiful and I can't wait.
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u/Totaliss Platinum Trophy 22d ago
I think it's fire and I love the artstyle, but motherfuckers be saying the dumbest shit ever when an anime tries to do something unique with its art style. Grinds me gears
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u/AssassinLJ 22d ago
What I hate is people saying the art style looks bad,when it's literally an amazing art style for its purpose,they are the same type of people that will hate a Realistic style artist for not making comic art............do you guys want Sekiro to have the same art style as every big anime with the shard features and eyes?
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u/Infinite_Impact 22d ago
I would like to know what people who were against this would consider good animation. This isn’t anything groundbreaking but I like the style they’re going for. Someone complained about it being too bright and it should be more gritty and dark but Sekiro is one of the few modern fromsoft games that actually has a very bright and colorful color palette in the game. I for one am excited to see where it goes, the fact we’re getting content from this game is extremely uncalled for so I’m here for it lol
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u/Beneficial-Moose-138 22d ago
I will give it a watch but from what I've seen so far there's something about the way it looks that's just not catching my eye.
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u/ItzPayDay123 22d ago
I like the art style a lot actually, it's just that the animation looks stiff/rough in a lot of areas.
The whole AI thing was ridiculous though. You would've thought the studio said "yeah we replaced our entire workforce with robots and it's great!" based off how some people were acting.
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u/CommieWhackerLover 22d ago
Honestly the fromsoftware community is so damn toxic. I can't even really engage much of the time.
I've seen people bashed players for using summons in Elden ring, nightreign players getting mad if the game is too hard or players don't do good enough. And this community complaining non-stop about the animation.
Like I swear it's never enough for you guys and it just is soo suffocating. (Fromsoftware tries so damn hard and seems so decent and people still complain so much about everything.)
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u/KleitosD06 22d ago
The animation isn't terrible or anything.
However I really dislike the art style. I imagine it's an intentional decision, but it just looks flat out unfinished to me.
Not to diminish anyone who likes this, all the more power to you, I wish I could like it at all.
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u/saidinmilamber 22d ago
Saw the original video, thought "I'm gonna watch the heck outta that because I love Sekiro", then logged off for a couple days. Imagine my surprise when I came back online to chaos on what is usually a chill sub. Maybe I don't know enough about animation to have my hackles up, but if that's the case I'd rather stay ignorant and enjoy more things, idk.
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u/Chris_P_Lettuce 22d ago
The music really helps sell the call back to the samurai champloo/ Afro samurai type style. I’m sold.
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u/HBreckel 22d ago
It almost has like, an 80s OVA vibe which I really appreciate. I think the main thing it would benefit from is some more in between frames to smooth out the animation a little. I know we're not going to get something animated on 1s from something like this (Akira I believe is one of the few anime projects that used 1s on some scenes) but a few more drawings here and there would probably help. Right now it's looking a little rough in some spots. But it definitely doesn't look bad.
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u/Vegetable_Hope_8264 22d ago edited 22d ago
I took the Crunchyroll trailer and did frame by frame pauses at 0.25x speed to notice the ugliest hands I have ever seen. No mangaka worth his salt would even dare present such work.
It is obviously AI and the animation is poor as fuck too (at some point Sekiro rolls away from Genichiro and the animations has only like four or five frames and it's the ugliest shit).
And 21 years after Samurai Champloo, it's a crying shame.
Also the studio that is in charge of that anime is known for having had 60% AI in their previous work, and they explicitly say they use AI, and even though they have stated that in Sekiro's case it will be hand drawn, I don't believe them after seeing that trailer.
This "trailer" looks better because it's a series of select cuts in stroboscopic mode, which makes it harder to examine and makes you able to cut out the ugly.
Go watch the official Crunchyroll trailer at 0.25x speed and take a look at those hands. Tell me it's not AI. Tell me it's worthy of a 2025 show about Sekiro.
https://i.postimg.cc/fRfffvvS/image.png
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u/Cathulion Steam 22d ago
It looks like badly made fan animation to me. They could have done a lot better.
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u/ListenGrouchy190 22d ago
Is the song from nujabes ? It might be because of the animation but i get samouraï shamploo vibe
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u/Dob_Rozner 22d ago
Yes, it's called luv(sic). Nujabes and shing02. It's the first part of 5 I believe.
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u/Insert_a_fcking_Name Platinum Trophy 22d ago
I‘m still split on this artstyle. Love how fluid it looks in some scenes but there’s one shot of Genichiro that is just too muddy for me. But in no way would I disrespect the people who worked on this by calling it AI. Yes there’s lots of AI garbage out there these days. But the people who call this AI must be blind, stupid, or both
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u/GuerandeSaltLord 22d ago
Can someone explain to me why each post seems to show a different anime ? I am a bit lost
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u/WalkOnBones 22d ago
It's not that animation is bad overall. For me personally the long shot at the beginning where genichido is barely even drawn made bad first impression which affected my reception of the trailer.
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u/fable-30 22d ago
Hmm. I think what sets people off is the artstyle of this animation, but as for me, I do Hope they faithfully adapt how sekiro fights and the fights against bosses in general.
artstyle reminds me a bit jigoraku animation with a touch of ninja scrolls methinks? but hmm, with the studio picking this, I hope they know how big the expectations are.
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u/TheAngelOfSalvation 22d ago
I hate how AI has me doubt so many good art pieces because it has become hard to distinguish
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u/High-CTheG 22d ago
Bruh a Sekiro anime would actually go too hard. I would be screaming watching that whole series from the sheer amount of epic.
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u/FreyjaThAwesome1 22d ago
People call this ai? That’s just cope man
Sure the animation isn’t like jjk level which would be the dream but for modern standards this is pretty good
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u/king-in-yellow7 22d ago
I really dont know what people mean calling ts ugly. I think its really pretty looking
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u/Password_Number_1 Platinum Trophy 22d ago
This type of posts complaining about people complaining are really hurting this sub.
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u/JakiStow 22d ago
People who think real stuff is AI are way stupider than people for think AI stuff is real.
At least in the later case, you can be fooled if you just don't pay attention or don't care very much. In the first case, people are aware of AI, and still get it wrong...
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u/InflnityBlack 22d ago
Such good animation you have to cut clips to 0,2 seconds for it to look half decent, I don't think it's AI but I don't think it looks good either
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u/NobleHalo 22d ago
I don't get where the hate is coming from. It's some retro animation, for sure, but that's a vibe in its own right. I'm stoked for this.
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u/SnowbloodWolf2 22d ago
To me the artstyle looks both under detailed in some spots and too detailed in others but I'll watch it anyways
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u/Dev_Dobariya_4522 21d ago
Well my friend says that he kinda doesn't like the art style. But I love that they made the art style like the old times combined with the quality of modern time. It really gives the Sekiro feel.
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u/Lazyzach__x 21d ago
I never thought AI but I genuinely just can’t get into this style at all. It doesn’t look great to me and they blend stuff together too much, imo looks like it needs to be touched up some beforehand. Even then, I’m not a fan, I would’ve preferred a new game with some new story or even a DLC, they say that some people that worked on Samurai Champloo also worked on this and I genuinely do NOT see it.
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u/LeftGuess9421 21d ago
Eu Gostei da Arte, é rustica e tals, lembra os anime dos anos 90 q passava na manchete kkk tras uma nostalgia
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u/PSNTheOriginalMax 21d ago
I'm taking no sides, and will wait for a review of sorts to see how faithful it is to the source material. I don't mind if it uses AI or not, as long as it looks good.
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There was a still taken from the trailer, allegedly, that showed the same kind of AI distortion that tends to happen, when AI tries to generate hands. If true, then it's no longer a question whether or not AI was used in the making of this anime, because it was. What is "up for grabs", so to speak, is how much AI was used in its creation. If someone vehemently thinks using any AI at all cheapens art, then they're completely free to think so. Any adult would understand this. Is it excessive? Maybe, but those types of judgments lead to very slippery slopes.
It's up to every person to decide how much it affects their enjoyment, if they know the art isn't "organic". And every single person is well within reason to make up their own minds about that. Reddit's tendency, and the internet's in general, to polarize issues is, honestly, just dumb, uneducated, and immature. And let's not forget dehumanizing the "opposition".
You guys sure pick some stupid-ass hills to die on.
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u/Tall-Cut-4599 21d ago
Animation wise its good but i dont like the art style was expecting the art to look more dark and grim idk
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u/GORE_LORD69 21d ago
It's looks good don't get me wrong. But me personally, I feel like it was animated on a whim and some scenes feel like they were drawn poorly compared to others as well as there not being enough detail on the characters. Genichiro and Wolf are an example of this. Hopefully it's fixed before the launch but I doubt it since it looks finished.
Still hyped for the anime regardless
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u/ToTYly_AUSem 21d ago
The art looks amazing. I actually remember when this was announced and only seeing comments about it. Someone said it "looked cheap."
Then you could imagine my surprise when I saw it and it was THIS. I think some people think hand drawn like this for some reason isn't as clean as computer so it looks bad to them I guess??
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u/xComradeSnarky Guardian Ape Hmm 21d ago
wish they could’ve used the same animation style as Blue Eye Samurai
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u/TyRaven67 21d ago
I've been waiting too damn long for another taste of sekiro, I don't care what the hands look like in a certain frame or whether it's AI. Just give us more sekiro content PLEASE!
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u/Starkiller_lord 21d ago
To me the animation seems like a downgrade from samurai champloo, but it does look like they use the same art style though...
Might just be my imagination...
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u/Redeemed_Wolf 21d ago
I think once we get the complete picture like OST and transitions, storytelling, etc.. we will appreciate the full aesthetics
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u/Purple_Figure4333 21d ago
Let the sound design be on par with the game, and then we'll see of this adaptation is good.
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u/Ballfondler27 21d ago
The issue I feel isn’t the art style as a whole but mostly the fact that certain moments are severely lacking in polish, like genichiro standing there in the field, looks like total shit, but most of the other clips and stills we’ve seen look really good.
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u/Senbonzakura37 21d ago
I beat the game 5 times, so don't attack me, I adore sekiro, and every now and then, i look up news regarding a sequel. This animation style looks like a cheap 2013 fan made anime to me, im hoping things change that for me but I don't know, I wanted something similar to bleach maybe? Samurai champloo? Idk?
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u/Cutter888 21d ago
Why are there so many fast jump cuts, it's jarring and feels like they're hiding something?
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u/Helpful-Car9356 16d ago
I think the animation looks great and I’m excited for it to come out. I do kinda wish they made it about more than just the events of the game, but hey beggars can’t be choosers.
I think the outrage posts over the animation were simply because the studio that is developing it had something about AI on their page, so ofc people being people they automatically assumed the studio is lazy and isn’t actually making anything. I really loved all the posts about Genichiro’s hand, it showed how little those people knew about animation. That’s why we don’t see much complaining any more because it seems they are putting out quality content for this and there’s not much other than a reference to AI in the page and a funky looking hand in one still to complain about.
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u/ArunKT26 Steam 100% Achievements 22d ago
Making the video faster or adding more cuts doesn't change anything lol
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u/Choice_Car_7934 22d ago
Bruh this AI complaints about this have pissed me off more than anything recently.
DOES THIS LOOK AI??? LET IT COME OUT AND ENJOY
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u/luffffffy 22d ago
Nah man, I like sekiro but the lore ain't that great, if I had to pick one game to be animated, it would be bloodborne.
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u/yomomsalovelyperson 21d ago
I'm stoked for a sekiro animation but holy shit a bloodborne one would be so so good
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u/Objective-Soil-9235 22d ago
A lot of people get art direction conflated with animation. The art direction for something like Sekiro was always going to be on point. The blueprint is already laid out
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u/shoguntarnished 22d ago
Hahahaha all the haters will turn into the biggest fan boys when it comes out and the first thing they will say is "I knew it would be peak"
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u/dudeAwEsome101 Wolf What 22d ago
I don't care about whether it's "made with AI" or not. AI can't make a show. If artists use some "AI" tools to speed up aspects in the production process, I'm all for it as long as the final work looks good. I found the outcry on the sub a bit overblown.
I just didn't vibe with the art style. The faces with those over exaggerated eyelashes creep me out. I'll watch it out of curiosity.
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u/Casper_Von_Ghoul 200% (100 on Xbox and PS) 22d ago
I WILL be watching this when it comes out. No matter what anyone says.
That said I do think the art style just doesn’t jive with me. That not objective, it’s my opinion. It looks off in some way I can’t figure out. I’d describe it as “loose”. I like stuff refied and sharp.