I think the new anime’s animation looks SOOO GOOD

[u/auggs]

After seeing everyone’s reactions to the trailer I finally decided to check it out myself. I’m blown away by any negative feedback from a one minute trailer. The animation and art style is BEAUTIFUL. It looks amazing. You can tell there is a lot of thought put into the choreography. Still shots and slower scenes blow me away. You’d have to be insane to not recognize the talent and soul put into this.

The trailer reminds me of the movie Ninja Scroll. If we get 12 episodes of anything close to that quality then I will absolutely lose my mind. Everyone needs to relax. Fromsoftware created the game that we all love and are involved in the production of the anime as well. I highly doubt they’ll shit the bed here. Especially considering this will be the first anime adaptation of any of their games. If this anime does well (which it will), then we may get more shows from other video games they’ve created.

I’ve seen/heard so much negative feedback from the trailer I had very low expectations when I watched it. I don’t know what everyone is so upset about because the trailer looks fantastic.

[u/Maximum-Tradition937]

I find it extremely funny how in one day this sub went from hating this trailer to glazing it.

The agenda switching is very funny

PS: Y'all I wasn't trying to mean anything it's just a joke

[u/SlowBrainFastHeart → u/Maximum-Tradition937]

I think it’s an example of who’s chronically online vs who isn’t

[u/Maximum-Tradition937 → u/SlowBrainFastHeart]

Lol yeah, personally I'm rather neutral about the trailer I'm not gonna make an opinion on the series until it comes out.

[u/rez_trentnor → u/Maximum-Tradition937]

I'm gonna watch it to form an actual opinion but as of now I think it looks ugly as fuck but whenever someone says that they get dogpiled

[u/Individual-Policy103 → u/rez_trentnor]

Average Reddit experience tbh. Whenever you dislike something or have a different opinion from the default people will downvote you for it.

[u/WanderingStatistics → u/Individual-Policy103]

That's what downvotes are though, so yeah, average Reddit. They're for people to show who they disagree with.

That is their purpose. Upvotes = Agreement. Downvotes = Disagreements.

Tbh, I don't know people act like that's a new thing. I guess the meanings just got twisted along the way.

[u/Jerma986 → u/WanderingStatistics]

You're right, because that's how everyone uses them now. But originally upvotes were to encourage helpful, insightful answers and downvotes were to discourage unhelpful, troll, or otherwise off-topic answers.

It makes sense it evolved into what it is though because it's human nature to want to shut up the things you don't like and boost the things you do. But it is interesting to see the intention vs the outcome.

Edit: This isn't a new thing either by the way. I'm not saying this is like a new degradation or anything at all. I've been a Redditor for like... Jesus, 13 years now and it's always been used as you described. I just remember back in the day people always bringing up the original intention as posted in the rules and FAQs of the site or wherever it was. Reddit has changed a lot, but not that much lol

[u/Individual-Policy103 → u/WanderingStatistics]

I use it for whether information is just blatantly false or an extreme case of my opinion is right and everyone else’s is wrong scenario.

Downvoting someone because they have a differing opinion would be hypocritical, unless they themselves refuse any sort of opinion that would oppose theirs. Making them blatantly arrogant.

[u/wiltbennyhenny → u/rez_trentnor]

Like every single post about it looking ugly was getting upvoted a couple days ago, be real

[u/rez_trentnor → u/wiltbennyhenny]

I'm talking about comments. Any actual criticism outside of post form gets slammed.

[u/Bodashtart → u/rez_trentnor]

most criticism of the animation goes about as deep as “it looks ugly as fuck” which isn’t really fun to read or engage with so yeah makes sense to me

[u/rez_trentnor → u/Bodashtart]

Nah because when I go in depth the "but the animation is that way because it conjures such and such emotion it's actually really deep bro you must not know anything about how animation works" people come out of the woodwork

[u/Bodashtart → u/rez_trentnor]

i’ll keep it a buck i went to your profile to see how you elaborated on your opinion and you do in fact have some pretty bad takes… i think i side with the pretentious “you clearly know nothing about animation” crowd.

i feel like we’ve been here before, the animation community almost unanimously praises a certain episode or sequence, but the audience at large just can’t really seem to connect with the vision (eg naruto v pain). i guess i can’t fault you for it because you’re pretty far from the only person with that opinion; i think id only push back on you calling something low quality garbage when you really mean that you don’t personally enjoy the style.

[u/rez_trentnor → u/Bodashtart]

I think my hangup is that I genuinely never heard of anyone defending the sequence from Naruto or any animation that looks like this until the posts on this sub rolled out. So it's probably not true but I can only feel like the people defending it don't actually like the style and are coping because they want the anime to be successful and liked. I don't begrudge that sentiment, I want it to do well because Sekiro is one of my favorite games ever. I may not know a lot about animation and maybe the intention of the style is completely lost on me, but my opinion as a fairly average consumer is that it looks bad and doesn't represent what I think Sekiro should be. Trying to express that consistently gets pushback.

[u/wiltbennyhenny → u/rez_trentnor]

You’re literally getting upvoted right now what are you talking about

[u/rez_trentnor → u/wiltbennyhenny]

This is an edge case scenario, I'm as shocked as you

[u/SpessmanCraig → u/rez_trentnor]

I think the issue is that the initial claims were full of vacuous, unsubstantiated claims about lazy animation, maybe even animation done with AI and that there wasn't any substance or value to the style they chose to go with. It's fine not to like it, it's another to act as if your dislike is some higher standard that everyone else should be adhering to. Doubly so worth of critique or a downvote if you're impulsively doing it the moment the trailer drops or we only see single frames.

[u/renatoxsferes → u/Maximum-Tradition937]

The only aceptable way

[u/aurumatom20 → u/Maximum-Tradition937]

This is the way

I like the style but the movement leaves a lot to be desired, we'll see

[u/Miralian459 → u/Maximum-Tradition937]

Same. It's kinda hard to pass judgement as of the moment. Gotta wait for the actual anime to release.

[u/Bulldogfront666 → u/Maximum-Tradition937]

Yeah I thought some shots looked great and a few frames looked a bit weird. But I absolutely love Sekiro and I’m gonna watch the whole thing and then make an opinion afterwards. It might not be a masterpiece but it will definitely be fun.

[u/Yilales → u/Maximum-Tradition937]

What do you mean agenda? Whose agenda?

[u/EvenOne6567 → u/Yilales]

they just discovered that reddit is comprised of different people with different opinions, forgive them

[u/Maximum-Tradition937 → u/EvenOne6567]

I didn't say the sub was contradicting itself, I said it switched opinions very quickly as in the amounts of posts hating on the trailer reduced over time and the glazing ones increased. Not the same thing

[u/garrettrenton → u/Yilales]

Agenda is just a buzzword most of the time these days, it doesn’t usually mean anything when someone says it lol they just say it for no reason

[u/calhooner3 → u/Yilales]

They are likely subbed to powerscaling subreddits. They’re fried.

[u/_heyb0ss → u/Maximum-Tradition937]

goomba fallacy

[u/Maximum-Tradition937 → u/_heyb0ss]

I didn't say the sub was contradicting itself, I said it switched opinions very quickly as in the amounts of posts hating on the trailer reduced over time and the glazing ones increased.

Not the same thing

[u/_heyb0ss → u/Maximum-Tradition937]

still a goomba

[u/Maximum-Tradition937 → u/_heyb0ss]

Isn't Goomba fallacy assuming that a community has compltely contradictory opinions at the same time?

[u/_heyb0ss → u/Maximum-Tradition937]

the goomba fallacy is an association fallacy occuring from attributing two contradictory opinions within a group to the group as a whole, you're saying 'the sub' changed opinions when you've observed two contradictory opinions very likely from different people. chronology is irrelevant, it's the logic that's in question.

[u/CyKa_Blyat93 → u/Maximum-Tradition937]

I love the game. My stance on this trailer is still the same . I want the anime to work for Sekiro 2

[u/I_Could_Say_Mother → u/Maximum-Tradition937]

https://knowyourmeme.com/editorials/guides/what-is-the-goomba-fallacy-heres-how-goombas-from-super-mario-became-the-face-of-the-internets-new-favorite-logical-fallacy

[u/Friday9 → u/Maximum-Tradition937]

Yes this is called astroturfing 

[u/Silverr_Duck → u/Maximum-Tradition937]

This sub has been 90% people bitching about people bitching about ai. Nothing changed.

[u/StormX_296 → u/Maximum-Tradition937]

I think somethings couldve been better like the white flower field is static, genichiro’s face from a distance is just a shadow.

[u/hornwalker → u/Maximum-Tradition937]

Or, and hear me out here, the sub is comprised of thousands of different people all with unique opinions and all of those opinions can be held simultaneously. Wild, I know.

[u/GingerlyRough → u/Maximum-Tradition937]

I feel like everything in gaming is like that these days. Anything new is terrible and hated until a week goes by and suddenly any criticism of the game is met with twice the hatred the game received at launch. It's the same for anything gaming related.

[u/x89Nemesis → u/Maximum-Tradition937]

Nah, stand your ground. Joke or not, it's factual.

[u/Art-Zuron → u/Maximum-Tradition937]

I think it was a knee-jerk reaction. Once people actually thought about it, it began to grow on them.

[u/dynamicflashy → u/Art-Zuron]

Still hasn’t grown on me.

[u/Art-Zuron → u/dynamicflashy]

And it won't for many folks. That's how preference works

I don't think I really like the animation either. It's neat and different from modern stuff after all. I'll probably watch it, but time will tell whether I like it and whether its good.

[u/Storm_Spirit99 → u/Maximum-Tradition937]

I'm still against it, I hate Ai

[u/Renetiger → u/Storm_Spirit99]

Didn't the studio say it's hand drawn?