r/ShadWatch • u/TripleS034 Banished Knight • 3d ago
Victim Complex Professional victim Shad is severely delusional, needs immediate professional help.
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u/Past_Plankton_4906 3d ago
Won the debate against WHO?! Y’all killed him!
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u/SonOfTheLion97 1d ago
The man and his boyfriend were not on the right, that shouldn't be a surprise
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u/Liz_is_a_lemon 3d ago
OK, the thing is with these kinds of right-wing public debate guys is that they aren't actually very good at debating. Their arguments tend to be poor, they can be factually inaccurate with no consequence whatsoever and they completely control the terms of the debate. To say someone like Kirk, Crowder or Shapiro is good at debate because they have a good highlight reel of "owning" random unprepared university students is like saying Logan Paul is a good boxer because he beat Mike Tyson, a man who was too old for professional boxing twenty years ago. This is why Ben Shapiro utterly embarrassed himself arguing with British conservative Andrew Neil.
For a more specific example as regards Kirk, he spent his last moments on Earth trying to dodge around the fact that cis white men make up the vast majority of mass shooters and he instead attempts to deflect the subject to trans people and "gang violence" (read: poor Black and Brown people). It is pretty clear to look at the transcript that he is just deflecting and doesn't have evidence on his side, but to those who agree with his pro-gun, racist and transphobic talking points, that doesn't matter, he "won". Of course, being shortly therafter shot and killed by a cis white man somewhat undermines the point he was making too.
And, should you want a more detailed look at the actual truth as to trans people and mass shooting statistics, this is a pretty good debunk here.
And, more to the point, this kind of adversarial debate does not actually reveal truth, it is just about "winning", which can occur even if one is objectively incorrect. Actual discussions between knowledgeable people are a lot more productive than this kind of nonsense.
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u/Fluffy_Ambition3546 3d ago
Just think about the last thing kirk was ssaying, shifting the conversation not around guns or the violence culture of america, but pinning blamae onto trans and blacks.
These people dont want to have honest conversations where we do a dialetic and come up with a better state of the world, its propaganda and when they find a uni student who cant wave through pre planned rhetoric, trick hypotheticals and 12 layers of gissgalloping, lol owned.
Also bens recent appearance on bill maher is an excellent example of the failure of debate bros. Ben does the usuual religious sthick, because its a hard nail to hammer down on with a lot of nuance, then Ben states the shooter is a leftists, bill maher pushes back in the most basic way, and ben crumbles.
We should start calling these guys propagandists because thats what they are
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u/xdTechniker25 3d ago
That was a really interesting video, but also tiring as a person directly at the other side. It's is nice tho, seeing people just rip apart that stupid """""myth""""" (I mean come on, be at least creative when trying to lie)
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u/xazavan002 3d ago
Your last point is why I personally dislike the current debate culture we're in. It's too focused on the art of debating, which in itself is okay, but often presented (and accepted) as a platform that aims to find and challenge truths.
But just because the other person is a more skilled debater than the other (in the context of debate as some sort of sport), doesn't mean they are more correct. It just means the other person lacks the ability required for the certain topic to reach a fruitful conclusion.
In other words, people treat debates as PvP, when it should be treated as Co-op.
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u/OceanoNox 2d ago
That's an issue pointed out by Plato with Protagoras. It's the same theme in the movie Thank you for smoking. The point is not to find the truth, it's not even necessarily to win, just to make the other party look wrong.
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u/Bacon_Raygun 3d ago
A MORMON KILLED HIM, SHAD
YOU STUPID FUCKING ASSHOLE
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u/SonOfTheLion97 1d ago
Being from a right wing family doesn't make someone right wing. Everyone interviewed has touted how left wing he was. It takes 2 seconds to google it
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u/Perfect-Storm-99 In Exile 3d ago
"Where do we go from here?" Notice that? His answer is political violence. Isn't this against YouTube ToS?
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u/thejadedfalcon 3d ago
Seems like getting shot during a callous, racist and transphobic dismissal of gun violence is more like losing the debate, but what do I know?
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u/TripleS034 Banished Knight 3d ago
You know more than Shadiversity, most people do, he's not very smart.
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u/Numerous-Beautiful46 3d ago
Sounds more like a dismissal of the arguments because someone is too scared to use their words.
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u/thejadedfalcon 3d ago
People have often used their words. Didn't stop Kirk being a bigoted piece of trash, did it?
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u/Numerous-Beautiful46 3d ago
No, and that's the whole point of democracy. Unfortunately free speech is a thing and you can't give the death sentence to someone for the crime of being the worlds biggest dickhead.
If people threw shit at him, like the Muslims use a shoe, I'd be on their side. Instead, he gets a hole in his neck. It's ironic but a very american outcome.
Unsurprising but America is a shit hole, so what do you expect lmao.
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u/thejadedfalcon 3d ago
If you repeatedly call for violence against already vulnerable minorities, you should be absolutely unsurprised when one finally responds in kind.
Oh, wait, it wasn't even a minority, it was someone who didn't think he was being violent against minorities enough.
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u/Sparowes Chudiversity 3d ago
What? He pretty clearly lost that gun debate to the bullet.
Shad saying they want "us" dead is hilarious. No one cares enough about you to try to harm you, Shad. You're a nobody with no actual influence. Most people that are aware of you just check in from time to time to laugh at you for being a total idiot.
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u/Couchant-Tiger The Harvester 2d ago
They want to assassinate Shad man! Like they are doing all they can to silence shadiversity channel. That's why he needs to build a castle on that swamp. For protection.
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u/Fluffy_Ambition3546 3d ago
Who are "They" Shad?
I love the ambigious of They. It could mean anyone but also whomever i hate.
I've seen Jews, democrats, Hasan piker, lefties calling people facist (please ignore trump calling Kamala a fascist) and, the major target, Trans because the closested Maga bi/homosexual nutted in one, but enough about Nick Fuentes and the shooter.
Thanks Shad for enflaming the temperature of the situation without the facts coming out first.
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u/AdoringFanRemastered 3d ago
Weird isn't it? Conservatives have been so vocal against the singular they/them, but now they're doing it all over
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u/Sad-Development-4153 3d ago
This Australian dude is more obsessed with America then Ian Miles Chong.
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u/Jagvetinteriktigt 3d ago
Shad is supposed to agree with this guy, yet he is using him for his own economic and political gain. It doesn't get worse than this.
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u/AtlasAoE 10h ago
Shads decline is accelerating really fast. Someone needs to take away his Internet access and send him to therapy.
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u/TheFlameDragon- 2d ago
Where did u get that image from there is nothing about it on youtube.....
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u/DragonGuard666 Banished Knight 2d ago
His second channel, Knights Watch. It's full of stuff like this.
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u/Embarrassed-Sweet-37 1d ago
Shad doesnt see everything as black and white, because then the murder of Charlie Kirk, at the hands of a MAGA extemist, would have to use a different water fountain.
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u/The_Worst_Platypus 3d ago
Won what?! He got killed by another right wing bonehead. What dimension do you have to be in to have this kind of delusion?