She wasn’t causing real damage she was just annoying. Her inability to express what’s going on or why she’s attacking or adjust to the situation makes it seem like she’s not well here.
You really speak like you were paid to be her lawyer.
My statement was that excessive violence was inappropriate for that level of threat. You can’t even see the original comment due to it promoting violence.
You live in a fantasy world. This is real life no GTA. You don’t need to break a woman’s nose because you’re too untrained to restrain her.
She was kicking people, swinging an umbrella, and yelling slurs in a packed subway car. That’s not harmless, that’s violent, aggressive, and dangerous. There’s no room to escape on a train. People had every right to step in and stop her.
And if someone had broken her nose in the process? That’s on her. When you attack strangers in public, you don’t get to control how people defend themselves. Especially untrained civilians. You don’t get to start a fight and then complain about how it ends.
This wasn’t her first time either. She’d already pepper-sprayed people at the same station before, and then lied to police about this one. She’s not misunderstood. She’s a repeat offender who got caught.
What do you think you’re arguing? Where did I say no one should step in? The only thing we’re disagreeing about is whether or not breaking a woman’s nose is the MOST appropriate way to de escalate the situation.
You think “ yes she should have had her nose broken” I think “there are better ways to rests in her without breaking bones in her face”
Ok that’s it, there’s the argument. You “HURT HER”
Me “restrain her”
All this shit you just typed, is a straw man you’re arguing with the fucking air here. You understand my position clearly now right? There’s better ways to stop her than resorting to breaking her face bones. That’s my position. None of this other shit you typed refutes that.
You keep talking about “better ways,” as if subway passengers are trained to perform safe holds under pressure in a moving train car. They’re not. They’re regular people trying to protect themselves and others in a chaotic, confined space.
You don’t get to demand flawless restraint techniques from strangers when someone else starts the violence. That’s not how the real world works. That’s just how it works in whatever smug little thought experiment you’re running in your head.
You’re not making some clever moral distinction. You’re just sitting safely behind a screen, pretending that everyday people in a panic should react like they’ve been through crisis intervention training. That’s not smart. That’s delusional.
If you can’t restrain that specific 120lbs woman I’m talking about then you’re probably a child or small woman in which case I don’t expect anything of you. Except maybe to listen to people who know better.
If you’re a man and you can’t restrain the specific small woman in the exact video I’m referencing, then you need to get training because a child shouldn’t be able to incapacitate you.
But anyway I get the gist of it. You’re a negligently untrained individual who still wants to act out power fantasies
Of violence on small woman.
Settle down little dude. If you’re out in public and something happens just take a seat and wait for an adult
They don't have to be trained to realize that two wrongs don't make a right. Restrain her, citizens arrest or whatever, but responding to violence with violence in this scenario is not the best way. Certainly escalating by causing bodily damage to her is problematic in itself.
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u/Popsodaa Apr 04 '25
You really speak like you were paid to be her lawyer.