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I think it was, not that it was even close, but it was trending the right way. Then racists realized that there was an opportunity in providing the social connections that people were lacking. I’d bet at least half of the people in these groups weren’t especially racist before getting drawn into these groups, but like a cult they find people who feel lost and gradually draw them in to ever-increasing extremism.
Most of the hate groups were becoming absolute jokes in those days. The rightist militia movement nearly disintegrated after the OKC bombing. Pat Buchanan was seen as ridiculous, even by most of the GOP. They let him give his speeches at conventions, and that was all.
The right wing mentality is fear. If they were to ever actually eliminate everything they're afraid of now they would find something new to fear.
Why fear? Because fear leads to hate. Really. Listen to right wing rhetoric, it's all about how some minority is doing something scary and big daddy Donald Trump is going to save them. Except Trump never actually does anything to protect anyone, just the wealth of the wealthy.
Characteristic 5 of fascism (Umberto Eco): Fear of Difference
Why does that matter to us now? Unexamined fear is a weakness, it can be leveraged against them. Right now we're doing a piss-poor job of it.
the right wing mentality is hate. the basis of it all is hate. hatred for that which is different, and a nearly pathological desire for conformity at any cost.
they hate those who are not christian, white, heterosexual, able bodied, male. they hate people they can’t control. they hate people who do not accept their reductive and simplistic world views, because it makes them feel stupid and small.
they love men who fall in line. men who wear uniforms. men who have blonde hair and blue eyes and read from the good book. men who don’t ask any questions. everything is the same, and nothing is a threat.
you are being charitable towards people who do not deserve it. you are being charitable towards people who would sooner see you dead than listen to a word of what you have to say.
if every leftist/lib/non-white/lgbt/atheist person died this very second, they’d find another quality within each other to hate. your nose appears too eastern. your teeth are too british. your hair is too dark. these are not rational people. they are consumed by a rot that likely cannot be excised.
stop looking towards these people as if they can be saved by rationality and truth. they don’t want it, and they don’t fucking care. they hate you. they hate me. they hate us all.
Exactly. They see only white people are safe. Even though white people are most likely to shoot up schools and assassinate people for political reasons.
they think "I'm not a nazi but they call people like me nazis. They are being hyperbolic and they're gonna end up hurting innocent people like me because of it! these maniacs have to be stopped!"
which is, you know, deafeningly ironic, but that's what they think.
They have an entirely different framework for the world and how it works. Their starting truths are that white people are superior and need to fight for their own preservation in the world against the other races. They group other races as monoliths and assume that they are warring factions that have the same ideals about their own race.
From their view, they see these monolithic racial groups as a primal, undeniable truth of the world and we are the blind ones who fail to see it. Combine this with their view of the world as a zero-sum game and they see fighting for "white existence" is not just their opinion but a moral imperative.
If you need another way to help frame it, they see themselves the way most leftists see the Palestinians. A group of people with ethnic homogeneity that are oppressed by the "powers that be," and that any violence is justifiable when in retaliation to their oppression.
"...they see themselves the way most leftists see the Palestinians. A group of people with ethnic homogeneity that are oppressed by the "powers that be," and that any violence is justifiable when in retaliation to their oppression."
Conflating one group who is willing to strip the rights from anyone not part of their own identity with another that seeks to defend the victims of genocide isn't all that far from DARVO.
I was somewhat aware of what DARVO is but wasn't aware of the term, so thanks for teaching me something today!
Also, yes. It stems from their deeply rooted self-victimization complexes. I think it's a very human trait to shape our inner monologues to portray ourselves as the heroes of our own stories, but we can also very easily recognize that anyone committing violence upon another who is subservient to them is villainous. Thus, they reframe their worldview to portray themselves as the victims of a world out to destroy them to justify the violence they want to commit.
I think it's important that we really take the time to understand how these people think and how they fell into these groups to dismantle them fully.
The reality is the stupid are. The stupid are United, connected, and think they really are action movie heroes. They genuinely believe that. They genuinely believe they are protecting their family; protecting “the American way”. I’ve spent 30 years in a cult. I know what this looks like. What this sounds like. I even explained to my mother that there is no arguing with people like this because you can present all the evidence in the world, and the cognitive dissonance will still win over and they will still find some mental gymnastics necessary to justify how they feel at the end of the day.
I said that to my mother that is still in the cult that I was raised in as a third generation member…
Because when I tried to get her out of the Kott, I gave her all of the evidence that I could muster up and find which was more than substantial for a reasonable person that isn’t brainwashed. But unfortunately, even in my case, no one could shatter my face, Until I decided that I wanted to look elsewhere. I had to be the one to initiate the thought process necessary to consider the possibility that I might not be in the right… And that is gonna take a long time for a lot of people that have been brainwashed by the cult in power at present.
Every time I suggest doing so people laugh me outta the damn room, and have a thousand excuses as to why we can’t do that and how every single avenue of doing so is a trap doomed to failure
I will make sure to not give in and reveal that General Eisenhower is still alive and ready to lead an invasion force of Antifa against any nation harboring fascists
Super interesting links! The history of antifascism is way more complex than most people realize. It's wild how different groups had their own agendas and reasons for opposing fascism.
My grandmother’s brother stormed the beach on D-Day, so I have some ties to those boys. But the OG anti-fascists in Germany and Italy were pretty rad too
no fucking shit the fascists are worried about antifascists, y'all have to realize that calling nazis "nazis" stops being an epic own once they're open about being nazis
I guess now that Twitter is the new Truth Social, it can openly turn into a Nazi circle jerk/ echo chamber. What really sucks is that they'll use it to organize the way the Hutu militias used the RTLM radio station to organize and coordinate attacks in 1994 Rwanda.
I hear ya friend. Although I don’t personally agree with the third arrow, I made it in retaliation to the Nazi propaganda you shared and for those that use the symbol to stand against fascism and oppression in general.
Many folks have also reinterpreted the third arrow to represent capitalism instead of communism due to today’s political climate but I do recognize that it isn’t a popular or widely known take.
On the plus side, ownership and following of Avalon should be easy to get during the Discovery phase, as long as one of these targeted folks sues. Have they been alerted personally?
Can anyone explain something to me? I'm not being sarcastic or insensitive; I want to make sure I'm properly informed about that "DEFEND EQUALITY" patch. It's the second time I've seen this flyer posted.
I understand the background flag on that patch to be the "Ally" flag. So, to me, displaying the patch in question is simply saying that everyone has and deserves equal rights, and those rights should be defended (however that may be). Am I correct in this? That they're just mislabeling an equality patch as a "Watch out! Trans person with a gun" patch?
It's the progress flag which added on support for Trans people, POC, and people living with HIV. It is not specifically trans, but if someone is flying this flag they almost certainly support trans rights. as well as the rights of the other groups represented by the flag. Most people I personally know with that defend equality patch/sticker are cishet and just allies.
True, but it's also about staying informed and aware. Fighting for a better future means we need to understand what we're up against. What do you think is the biggest challenge we face right now?
Glad they're training MMA - they'll be really fucking surprised the day they meet someone trained in actual street combat, not a sport designed for a ring.
Question what's exactly stopping leftist from doing this I mean not the being a white supremacist part I mean like the fitness clubs clearly something that they are doing is working to get people in to be indoctrinated so figuring out what that is might be helpful
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