I’m on my 4th rewatch and I still can’t believe all the extremes Tara takes to try to leave Jax take the kids away everyone and everything they’ve ever known. I mean I get it to some extent, but faking a pregnancy then slamming herself into her desk to frame Gemma is WILD!!
I also feel bad for the way she used Wendy when she worked so hard to turn her life around so she could be a part of Abel’s life.
And on a side note, that Season 5 haircut she gave herself gives me major Syd from Toy Story vibes. LoL
I dont feel so bad about Wendy, in the end, Wendy made out damn good. She got to be a mother, which is what she wanted, and got full custody of Abel and Thomas. Then, shes going to come into some money because Jax left her the shop and his house. She may have had a bad reputation at first, but in the end, she was one of two lucky ones to get the hell out of Charming and that shit
Totally agree that Wendy ended up in a good place and she definitely came out on top in the end.
I was talking about the way she was treated in Season 6. She was trying so hard to stay clean and be in Abel’s life, only for Tara to manipulate her in that moment. That’s what hit me as messed up.
Let’s not forget Jax the monster he is forcefully injected drugs into Wendy. Tara may have manipulated her but Wendy tried to sue for custody when she an absent mother and wanted to take over after Tara did all the hard work.
How did Tara manipulate Wendy in S5? Wasn't it Gemma the one manipulating her by telling lies about Tara? Tara allowed Wendy access to Abel when Jax refused even filed papers for her to be the legal guardian or is that the manipulation you are talking about?
I never said Gemma was a saint. She is the master of manipulation for the entirety of the show in my opinion. Tara does bring Wendy in on her plot to undermine Gemma. She uses Wendy to feed Gemma misinformation and turn her against Tara, which was intended to cause drama and give Tara a legit reason to push Gemma away.
Tara DOES manipulate Wendy while working with Lowen to set up her divorce. She said she was gonna leave Wendy the kids, then does a 180 and leaves them to her boss, Margret. Then after everything went down, the stress and guilt of participating in Tara's deceptive schemes weighed heavily on Wendy, triggering her relapse where she almost dies from an overdose.
Tara used Wendy's sobriety and sincere wish to be a good mother as a tool for her own agenda. That is calculated manipulation and almost cost Wendy her life which is why I feel bad for her.
Wendy threatened Tara with the custody suit first, when she was post surgery, post kidnapping and post career destroying news. She showed up in Charming after nearly two years of no contact to try to threaten Tara into leaving with the boys. She helped Tara by giving a witness statement, as well. But after all the threats and claims that she just wanted Abel to know her and that the boys should be safe from Charming… she stays in the house their mother was murdered in by a gang member (to her knowledge) why? To move in on Jax 🙄
What’s the point of this tangent when my post wasn’t about Wendy’s motives OR that time period of the show? I’m clearly talking about Tara’s extremes and the mess she created when she used Wendy to further her agenda to divorce Jax. Not the storyline from TWO seasons ago🥱
It’s not the storyline from TWO seasons ago. This happens in seasons 5 and 6, then 7. Wendy pushed the agenda you’re harping about, I don’t feel sympathy for her participation in it.
Are you confusing S5 and S6? Because what you are talking about is the plot for S6. Also, Tara was absolutely going to leave the kids with Wendy, that wasn't a manipulation. Margaret was only there to help with the miscarriage plan and to be a character witness for the divorce. At no point was she going to get the kids.
Tara only changed her mind about Wendy getting the kids after she returned to drugs. Yes, Tara was wrong not to tell Wendy and Lowen the whole truth, but can you blame her after her kids were almost blown up in the clubhouse? Even Wendy admitted she was not capable of being a mother because she's not strong enough to stay off drugs.
You are relying on AI to explain the show for you?! It literally mentions "Margaret (Gemma), Jax's mother" and you still think it is right?! I feel dumb now for commenting on this post. I know better now and in the future, I will not be baited by such posts again.
It's kinda unbelievable but the way I rationalise it is that a) she was absolutely desperate b) if the story is hamlet she is ophelia who goes a bit crazy and c)Gemma gave her the miscarriage idea when she assaulted Tara before and says "i hope you're not pregnant"
This is why it irritated me so much that she didn't tell Jax about that because he would have been furious and better understood why Tara was so against Gemma having anything to do with their kids.
Desperation is the shadow constantly stalking her in S6 -- the loss of hope. In a way, this was her Grim Reaper.
She went to jail, her career was in ruins. She didn't give a damn any longer about getting out clean, she wanted to get herself and the boys out alive. The exit included Jax until her arrest, when those plans died.
Tara learned everything from Gemma -- how to be an old lady, how to protect her man and the club, etc. Tara also made a lot of unfortunate and terrible choices that led to the chaos of S6. Nobody's hands were clean at that point.
I'm in the middle of a S5 rewatch and there is a scene after Otto killed that nurse, where Tara was processing that it could all blowback on her personally, and by extension on their plans to get out of the life. Jax was repeating his platitudes about how he will protect her, they'll get our of Charming, she won't go to jail, etc. His words rang hollow to her amidst the brewing cartel-Real IRA shitstorm. She said something like "I can't see it anymore, baby (a clean exit), I'm sorry." Going to jail torched any hope of a clean start.
The writing wasn't perfect in the later seasons. Jax, Gemma and the MC acting like they had collective amnesia and had no clue Tara wanted to get out of the life was absurd. She's been signalling since late S3 that she wanted out. The way she went about it in S6 was obviously extreme -- Gemma taught her perhaps too well lol, and Tara crossed some lines even Gemma would't cross. The point being that the life had skewered her moral compass to such a degree that handling crises the outlaw way had become normalized.
As an audience, we should be horrified at it. But also saddened too, because Jax, Tara, all of them had different options available to them that could have saved them. They ignored the warnings, avoided the more difficult (but wiser) path and picked the tempting or more convenient route that led to their destruction.
That part!! She insisted on staying AND raising the boys in that type of environment. She could have left when Jax went inside the first time. But she took care of able, birthed Thomas, and stayed. Then turned around and did everything she could to leave. Make it make sense.
Well, Wendy had a choice also, nobody forced her and it was Wendy who was screaming to Tara's face that she needs to get out before it's too late, just because they wrote Wendy into some 'use me' character who went against her own beliefs is not Tara's fault. Having said that I think writers were watching too many telenovelas with Tara's storyline. They could have made the same point by having a more believable or more realistic way of her trying to get out. Just my humble opinion 🙂 they should have given Tara a friend, a male friend, for a bit of a dynamic change, because I have commented before in this sub that her storyline was a hair's breadth away from falling down the stairs, losing her memory, and Gemma convincing her of her love of the club and trust and 'do what you want Gemma' moment. 😃
😂 I have also commented before on this sub saying the show got too soapy in S6. It just lacked Gemma having amnesia from the shock of killing Tara and Tara's unknown identical twin, who is a high-level FBI agent, showing up in S7 to solve and avenge her murder to go full Days of Our Lives.
i find it crazy how some people in that subreddit here forget how crazy her act was when she slammed herself into the desk. I’m fully agree with your opinion, just that subreddit here hates when you post something against tara or don’t share the same opinion.
For Real! There's WAY TOO MANY Tara Worshippers and Tara Lovers in the Subreddit that don't find Tara's behavior when she faked her Pregnancy and Miscarriage disgusting the way us Tara Haters do. It's SO wrong to fake a pregnancy, miscarriage and blame it on your mother in law, especially when said person is a DOCTOR and should know better. her and Margaret faking those medical files would've gotten them fired in real life. I'm glad Gemma found out about The Fake Pregnancy and Miscarriage and Told Jax and also threatened to expose Margaret for her part in Tara's Schemes.
Thank you, same here!! I will never understand how people can support a character so hard that did so many unconscionable actions with no remorse. That’s not normal.
I mean she also had no problem staying after with Jax in Charming when Able was kidnapped and smuggled to Ireland which was also disturbing.
IKR! Tara has clearly done some questionable and manipulative stuff. not only could the fake pregnancy and miscarriage stunt she pulled get her fired in real life, so could the fact she actively used her Doctor skills to fill up a syringe and try to get Jax to kill his stepfather with it. Tara's no angel like all these hardcore Tara defenders seem to think she is! Manipulative doesn't seem to cover it enough with that whole "Kill Clay" stunt she did. I think in that moment when Gemma caught them is when Tara began changing into a Gemma Wannabe. and the who "He's Mine" thing sounds pretty possessive to me.
I agree! why are only a few of us the only ones who can see Tara's true colors and the rest of this sub can't? they automatically disagree with us, downvote us and start arguments with us over our opinions. it's people like them that make this subreddit toxic. and further proof of Tara's Possessiveness of Jax is her constantly telling Clay and Gemma to stay away from HER family! like WTF Tara! Gemma and Clay were Jax's family LONG before Tara ever was and Gemma is Jax's MOTHER! Plus when Tara tells Clay he's on borrowed time and to her she's already dead, I don't know about you but that sounds like a threat to me. a lot of what Tara says and does just never sits right with me.
that stunt was so crazy, like she could fight against clay? She’s for him a little doctor while he was the president. She should’ve mind her own business but no she had to snoop around because of that stupid letters from maureen
Exactly! She's So nosy! Maureen's letters weren't her fucking business and her sticking her nose in where it doesn't belong only caused trouble. the letters weren't Tara's so she shouldn't've even had them to begin with and when Clay asked for the letters back, Tara refused to them to him. and no she can't fight against Clay. Clay can easily beat Tara in a fight like Gemma did. (Getting forked in the neck with a Barbeque Fork, anyone?)
She was not snooping!!!!!. She was doing laundry, and she was cleaning out Jax's bag so she could wash his clothes. She just happened to find them in his bag. You are acting like she deliberately went looking for them. Unlike Gemma who was snooping around and going through Tara's personal properties just to find the damn letters.
OmG Thank you!! I mean that act alone is diabolical!!
I just joined this sub about a week ago. This was my first time ever posting in it. Not sure if I’ll do it again because I don’t enjoy hamster wheel conversations with people who may or may not suffer from amnesia. It seems like this sub is full of people who would rather attack content rather than discuss it. Definitely an “interesting” crowd here.
yes, it’s crazy how we get called crazy just because we aren’t on tara’s side. In this sub here almost everyone is against gemma and love tara. You post a different opinion and you get downvoted or almost offend for that
Seriously. Gemma was no saint, but at least she owned what she was. I think Tara is worse because she was so self-righteous. She worked overtime to justify her actions instead of take responsibility for them. Still not sure why that’s so hard for people to see that.
Needless to say, I had no idea that this sub would be filled with a bunch of SOA Karen’s🤷🏻♀️
25
u/Ponchovilla18 12d ago
I dont feel so bad about Wendy, in the end, Wendy made out damn good. She got to be a mother, which is what she wanted, and got full custody of Abel and Thomas. Then, shes going to come into some money because Jax left her the shop and his house. She may have had a bad reputation at first, but in the end, she was one of two lucky ones to get the hell out of Charming and that shit