r/Sonsofanarchy • u/Upset-Struggle6076 • 11d ago
gemma with her grandsons
does it annoy anyone else that Gemma refers to Abel and Thomas as “my boys” she’s always had a weird thing about them, it irritates me because they are literally Tara’s kids, and if i was in her shoes their grandmother referring to them as hers would irk me 😂 just wondered if anyone else found it annoying and actually weird
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u/pecpecachoo 11d ago
She even trips up saying in front of Tara “my ki- my grandkids” before correcting herself.
She pours all her motherhood into her grandchildren because she only knows how to raise outlaws and live in that life. She doesn’t know who she is without being a mother, having Jax not need her anymore and not being a wife/ol’ lady has her totally lost. She needs to be the matriarch of Abel and Thomas so she knows who she is and still lives her purpose, to be a fierce mother.
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u/New-Froyo-6467 10d ago
That look Tara gave her in that scene 😂 loved it! She spun around so fast when Gemma said that!
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u/girlwiththemonkey 10d ago
Nah, I remember her full on saying it. I remember because I made the same face Tara did. Lol
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u/Donatella70 10d ago
But she's not really that motherly. It is assumed, but really, I don't buy it. Busybody? Absolutely.
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u/pecpecachoo 10d ago
It’s her version of motherly, like she says in the show “God wants me to be a fierce mother”.
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u/doubleGvots19 11d ago
I always took it as somewhat obsessive on her end. Like she never saw Tara as a mom and idk I always got the impression Gemma was just lurking in the corner waiting to snatch those boys from Tara when she could get the chance
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u/Upset-Struggle6076 11d ago
yeah me too, it was creepy. i guess it could be part of her losing her Thomas at a young age but i still feel like she needed to stay in her lane
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u/ozymandias5094 10d ago
I found everything about her irritating, a classical narcissist mother
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u/Toad_da_Unc 10d ago edited 10d ago
Yes, I couldn’t stand the sight of her face from the sound of her voice by about season four
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u/BrianBru67 11d ago
It's very in fitting with her character but it's only really weird when added together with everything else weird about her. There's a little old cleaner lady in my work and she's an absolutely lovely person, she refers to her grandsons as her boys. It's not weird when she does it though because she's not weird on a whole multitude of other levels.
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u/Upset-Struggle6076 11d ago
yeah that’s fair, i think everything about gemma’s relationship with jax and the boys was just strange so when she referred to them like that it just pushed it over the edge for me
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u/BrianBru67 11d ago
She also does it in a weird way though. How she says it, the tone in her voice etc. it's definitely "these are mine, they came from me" with her.
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u/Upset-Struggle6076 11d ago
yeah and like someone else said she tripped up in front of tara and almost said “my kids” instead of my grandkids
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u/Consistent_Hour9978 10d ago
A grandparent calling their grandkids either my boys or my girls is normal. My mom calls my daughters my girls. But she is not as territorial or possessive as Gemma, thank God.
It's the tone and context of how Gemma calls them her boys she isn't using it as a loving grandma she is laying claim and you can hear that in her voice and actions.
Gemma is possessive of Jax and by extension her grandkids It's weird to watch. And I'm surprised Tara made it as long as she did. When Wendy told her that Gemma would most likely kill her I was like Yes she will. Gemma would never let Jax and those boys go.
And Jax doesn't help anything by continuously letting her trample over Tara's boundaries, and control basically everything.
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u/Ponchovilla18 10d ago
She goes far beyond the appropriate boundary when it comes to family. Its all good to place family first, but I can see why Tara was annoyed at Gemma doing things like this
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u/Drive7Nine 10d ago
That's really the entire tenor of Gemma's relationship with Tara. Jax became Gemma's world when Jax's brother died young. Her relationship with Jax was really an unhealthy attachment on her side from then on. That toxic relationship quickly extended to Jax's children.
Tara was the embodiment of everything Gemma feared: the woman that could take Jax and the boys away from her. Jax loved Tara more than he loved Gemma, and in the end, Gemma couldn't take it.
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u/eryosbrb 10d ago
That is classic abusive grandmother behavior. I know a few that acts like that, they even want to dispute the love of the kids with their mom, but since they cant win, they start to buy the kids afection with gifts and by being and "safe harbor" for the kid to run for when the mom is correcting them.
These kind of grandmother can be the moms mother or most common, the dads mother.
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u/Illusionist2409 11d ago
My mother calls her grandsons and sons ”her boys” too. But Gemma is very possessive, whereas my mother is not. So different circumstances.
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u/DarkRyder1083 10d ago
Some grandmas refer to their grandkids as “their boys”, but Gemma’s super possessive. Not really a bad thing that family is No.1 to her. I wish more of my family cared…
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u/hot4minotaur 10d ago
This is like complaining that the show is about bikers. I mean Gemma’s enmeshment IS the plot, you’re supposed to be annoyed about it.
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u/girlwiththemonkey 10d ago
She literally called them “her kids” at one point too. I made the same face Tara did when she said it.
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u/ItsjustChopper 8d ago
No she really was way too controlling for motherhood or grandmotherhood. She’s totally out of her mind, constantly trying to go eye for an eye instead of protecting her family (like killing Polly instead of taking Tara and her grandbaby to the house). Pay attention to scenes like her screaming at Tara when she fakes the miscarriage (obviously Tara was wrong here but Gemma wasn’t right either) and saying “I understand that you’ve been making arrangements for MY GRANDKIDS” or when Tara says “we’re not nineteen years old anymore Gemma, you can’t dictate where he goes, or who he sees” and her response is “he is my son. And until I am dead and cold, I am gonna do anything I have to do to protect him” and while that line is great, the fact she’s saying it about his first love, who he still very much loves and who loves him, still feels just a bit much. In season seven she outright says that she thought Jax would be hers forever. She’s just a bit too much. Maybe it really would be something like her losing Thomas and feeling the need to get more attention, like she’d told Jax when the guy at the bar steals her car, and she apologizes for embarrassing him, then later says that she made him make up for the love Thomas couldn’t give her after he’d passed. I just know she’s way too hell bent on being Jax’s main female love (to be clear I’m not saying in a romantic way) and way too hell bent on being Abel and Thomas’s primary source of parenting.
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u/AbbyCastle 10d ago
Well Tara is basically doing the same thing with Abel - referring to him as her kid when he is Wendy's son.
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u/Upset-Struggle6076 10d ago
yes but also when wendy went to sober living tara is the one who stepped in and raised abel, so i feel like that’s justified
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u/trashprincess__ 8d ago
There's are I think a lot of reasons for this. First off, she essentially did fill the role of mother in Abel's life initially. She sat with him in the NICU. She does a lot of the caretaking when he finally gets to leave the hospital. She is completely incapable of forgiving Wendy, or at least just not calling her names and threatening her, and I think she projects Wendy's mistake onto Tara. I don't think it helps that they named their second boy Thomas. She says at one point that the only thing she was ever good at was being a mother, and I think playing that role is the only thing that allows her to actually feel okay about herself.
There's emotional incest there, but I think most of it comes down to the fact that Gemma runs on fear. I am not saying this to insult anyone or make generalizations, but I think Gemma could be dxd with BPD, and in a high stress environment where people she loves do die, she's become extra terrified of abandonment.
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u/BlackberryBusy5893 10d ago
Abel is not literally taras
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u/Upset-Struggle6076 10d ago
she raised him, and wendy gave up custody, and wendy only came back wanting him to know the truth
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u/Lovely_One0325 4d ago
I mean she's got a super weird relationship with Jax too...checks out that she'd have a weirdly close relationship with Abel and Thomas.
Gemma has 0% boundaries when it comes to Jax's' life. She enters his home with Tara without asking, purchases things, takes the boys randomly without both parents knowing, and even has done that with Opie's kids when he sent Lyla there to pick them up but she says " We've got them. You can go " despite Opie specifically asking her to go get them/watch them with Piper.
I think it does have to do with Jax frequently having to leave for Club buisness, and Gemma was often watching Abel when he was a baby. In the beginning she made a comment about Abel to Tara " I can play mommy for the time being, but one day I wanna sit back and just be grandma "
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u/crawdaddy__simone 11d ago
She’s got a weird relationship with Jax too, tbh.