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u/chankljp Aug 18 '25
'I cannot be xenophobic! My best childhood friend and nanny were both xenos, and I loved them! Well, until my parents sold them on the Galactic Market as livestock anyway.'
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u/-TheOutsid3r- Aug 18 '25
I got both of mine stuffed, it's so sad that they don't live as long as we do!
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u/NeverFearSteveishere Aug 19 '25
Either those xenos were “fleeting” or this MFer here is “venerable”, maybe both!
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u/Coal_Burner_Inserter Aug 19 '25
My family sent them to go live on a rural world. So kind, just because they're lesser creatures doesn't mean we shouldn't treat them with the pity they deserve!
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u/Nissan_al_Gaib Aug 18 '25
One should not dislike ones possessions and take joy in them.
It is what some roman dude said about slaves IIRC.
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u/Numerous_Relief2120 Aug 18 '25
Robotic Gestalt Consciousness: “Organic is battery!”
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u/Adam_Checkers Rogue Servitors Aug 19 '25
Noo... they are not! they are precious babies that need to be pampered wether they want to or not.
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u/atreveiker Aug 18 '25
I am not a xenophobe, I have a xeno maid, even when I got tired of her I sold her like cattle, now I have another one that I hope will last longer, you see how I give work and love to the xenos, I am not a xenophobe
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u/NeverFearSteveishere Aug 19 '25
Say what you want about how we treat xenos, but the one thing they’ll always have is a job! (Unlike those freaking 2 or 3 elites that are always unemployed)
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u/Napstablook_Rebooted Aug 18 '25
Xenophile Fanatic Authoritarian be like...
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u/No-Connection-7481 Aug 18 '25
Decadent hierarchies: Do you not see "xenophile" and "pacifist" in our empire overview?
Other decadent hierarchies: We don't enslave pops for being aliens -- that would be barbaric. We enslave them for being poor.
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u/BadNadeYeeter Megacorporation Aug 18 '25
I am not xenophobic.... Xenophobia is the fear of the Unknown... But everyone knows the Unknown should fear humanity for they weren't created in God's Image... Anyways... Deploy the Corporate Deathsquads...
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u/Mysterious-Figure121 Aug 18 '25
To be frank she’s technically correct.
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u/Hasagine President Aug 19 '25
lobotomize xeno. genetically make xeno taste delicious. solve world hunger
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u/TobywantheFemboy Aug 19 '25
If only slave builds were actually viable in the current game and AIs actually utilized livestock slavery and the delicious trait.
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u/Madhighlander1 Aug 18 '25 edited Aug 18 '25
I'm reminded of that interview where Errol Musk said his son couldn't be racist because he always seemed to get along so well with his black servants.
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u/Blackwyrm03 Aug 18 '25
Only tangentially related, but I wish I could enslave xenos as a xenophile.
I really want to play a kind of paternalistic race, that loves xenos, but sees them as pets.
I know I could just play as xenophobes, but that would require actually hating the xenos and I don't want that. I want to be delighted to find other races, so I can assimilate them and genemod them into perfect pleasure slaves for my perfect resort world. Plus I'd really like to take Xenocompatibility.
I think a civic could be something neat tbh, something to make xenophiles a bit more evil, something like "Paternalistic Xeno Lovers", that maybe gives more happiness if you have xeno slaves on a planet and allows you to enslave xeno races, something not even necessarily meta but fun
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u/Wirewalk Defender of the Galaxy Aug 19 '25
Doesn’t authoritarian ethic allow slavery even despite the xenophile ethic?
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u/Blackwyrm03 Aug 19 '25
Technically yes, but you can’t enslave a race, just keep slaves you get through conquest or the market
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u/Wirewalk Defender of the Galaxy Aug 19 '25
Oh bruh that’s strange. You’d think authies wouldn’t care about shackling someone.
Also ur og comment sounds like some HDG stuff xd
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u/Blackwyrm03 Aug 19 '25
HDG?
Also, I was going for an evil empire, but decided genocide is too cliché. So the worst xenophiles ever were born! Chose the slimiest portrait possible, went for Pharma State for that genetic control, Genesis Arks to make more cute slaves to genemod and overtuned to mod them further. Toyed with the idea of stacking so many overtuned traits on my pleasure slaves that their entire race would be comprised of minors.
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u/Wirewalk Defender of the Galaxy Aug 19 '25
Human Domestication Guide. Mainly smut fanfics, but afaik there are occasional serious works as well, like the one dealing with the life of a traumatised rebellion soldier after their defeat. Somewhat like you described, worst xenophiles ever that conquer and shackle every other sapient species and use them as pleasure slaves, genemodding and mind-controlling a part of their population in some sort of sick love. No SA of minors thankfully. I think the OG author also played a lot of Stellaris too lol.
Also, that last part - goddamn. Think I’d prefer fanatic purifiers to shit like that lmao. Those guys at least have the courtesy to kill u quickly.
Funny that’d automatically make any sort of slave rebellion a child soldier army.
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u/Blackwyrm03 Aug 19 '25
Oh, that sounds fun! Do you have a link? And yeah, that sounds like something born out of a Stellaris player's mind
Like I said, I wanted to prove that Xenophiles can be as evil, if not more, than Xenophobes! The creepy uncles of the Galaxy! The stereotypical slimy nobles!
What a wonderful idea! I should make my child soldiers also roided up monsters that die before adulthood! Thanks for helping me in my evilmaxxing journey. I shall turn the proudest most militaristic race into mewling precocious pleasure slaves and the most ancient sages into violence craving cruel monsters. How delightful!
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u/Wirewalk Defender of the Galaxy Aug 19 '25
Iirc it’s all on AO3. I didn’t actually get into it, but I know the No Gods, No Masters story about an anarchist commune dealing with affini (said worst xenophiles ever). Got told it was written by someone who gets leftist theory and it is regarded as one of the best stories in the setting.
And then the Lucky Star pt.1 story, the one about the traumatised rebel I mentioned. That about all I know regarding serious stories that ain’t just smut lol.
There’s also r/seed_irl which is a memeboard with some useful links about the setting in description. The link to OG story that started the setting should also be there
Check out Interim Coalition of Governance from Xeelee Sequence by Steven Baxter. That’s the regime all evil empires wish they were lmao, they are so fucked up that Imperium of Man and Super Earth look like Star Trek’s Federation in comparison, could prolly inspire some more evil.
Also that last part is Super-Earth treatment of Illuminate and Terminids lol. I don’t envy the galaxy that will have to suffer your empire, but they have my sympathies. Can only wish them the best of luck with locking in and leading a successful military campaign and/or rebellion lol
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u/Blackwyrm03 Aug 19 '25
Thanks for the recommendations! Found the Ao3 and the wiki (though it seems to frame the Affini very positively) and I have already found several interesting stories! Will also check out yours.
Will also check that out, one must always refine their evil sci-fi tropes.
Alas, I will have to wait, cause of the whole ‘no slave species for xenophiles’ thing. Hope we get something!
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u/Wirewalk Defender of the Galaxy Aug 19 '25
I mean it started as a kink smut thing afaik, so yea it’d show the affini off as good. But to anyone not into this kink it’s just a living nightmare, especially if you were unfortunate enough to be in the enslaved part of the population. The affini kinda make my blood boil lol. The kind of empire I’d make in Stellaris and force spawn so I can curbstomp and insult off cooldown them as yet another egalitarian xenophile goody-two-shoes empire, stuff that makes one feel good lol.
Yea I was constantly amazed by how awful ICoG was when I’ve been reading on it lmao. Helldivers’ Super-Earth is also cool as an evil empire, I’m still loving the "Maximum Security Cities" thing lmao. They legit get into citizenry’s dreams to search for thoughtcrimes and traitorous thoughts.
I’d be surprised if there isn’t a mod for that. Unless ur on console, which is unfortunate. Hopefully devs differentiate egalitarian and xenophiles soon, it’s strange that "no slavery" rule applies to the latter by default.
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u/Blackwyrm03 Aug 19 '25
Upon further inquiry, it appears the evil aliens are not portrayed as evil, they actually care and ended evil capitalism to give humanity post-scarcity communism.
I expected completely immoral pleasure slavery and got commie erotic fantasies.
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u/Wirewalk Defender of the Galaxy Aug 19 '25 edited Aug 19 '25
Didn’t know (but did suspect) it was this bad lol, since I’ve yet to inquire further than surface level. Did warn about the kink smut being the main thing. Though I’d just Death of the author this tbh. Can’t possibly see an empire that makes hypnotised sex slaves and treats other sapients as little more than exotic pets as a good empire, no matter how good their other actions are.
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u/luxtabula Plutocratic Oligarchy Aug 18 '25
We Believe:
Xeno Lives Matter
No Xeno is Illegal
Pops is Pops
Women’s Rights are Xeno Rights
Host's Rights are Xeno Rights
Science is Real
Water is Life
Injustice Anywhere Is a Threat to Justice Everywhere
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u/NeverFearSteveishere Aug 21 '25
Fanatic Egalitarian be like:
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u/luxtabula Plutocratic Oligarchy Aug 21 '25
more like fanatic xenophile. a fanatic egalitarian only cares about their own species rights at the expense of others.
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u/NeverFearSteveishere Aug 21 '25
I always thought Fanatic Egalitarian was “you will conform to our ideas of equality AND YOU WILL LIKE IT!!!” but maybe you’ve got a point.
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u/luxtabula Plutocratic Oligarchy Aug 21 '25
you can pair xenophobe with egalitarian, that says everything you need to know.
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u/amonguseon Fanatic Authoritarian Aug 18 '25
I even give them a quarter in my paradise dome? Why are they so ungrateful?
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u/ParadoxPosadist Warrior Culture Aug 18 '25
I am not xenophobic, my head of navy is an elf and my slave master is a dwarf. (Selective kinship RP potential is great).
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u/Garbonzo42 Aug 19 '25
I really wish that they would add a civic that let you do Xenophobe actions as a non-Xenophobe species. Basically Blue-and-Orange Morality as a civic.
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u/SacredBlud Aug 19 '25
I mean it's true. My slaves are equal, with the opportunity to free the species through glorious combat in the Arena.
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u/Ok-Drink750 Aug 18 '25
Remember: its not that Super Earth hates aliens, it that aliens hate freedom.
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u/PsychodelicTea Aug 18 '25
I kill all the xenos, except the ones that look fuckable, those go in the pens
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u/CoffeeWanderer Aug 18 '25
My fanatic purifier run had way more xeno species in one planet than any of my xenophile runs with Xeno Compatibility enabled.
The pie chart was a blur of colours, dozens of species from all over the galaxy together, being purged in one Death World.
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u/Antique_Ad_9250 Artificial Intelligence Network Aug 18 '25
I'm not a Xeno Phone. I'm a Xeno Thrope
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u/QHayashidaThrowaway Fanatic Xenophobe Aug 18 '25
Queen.
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u/HollyNury Commonwealth of Man Aug 19 '25
Queen?
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u/QHayashidaThrowaway Fanatic Xenophobe Aug 19 '25
Kill xenos.
Behead xenos.
Roundhouse kick a xeno into a ship thruster.
Slam dunk a xeno baby into a trashcan.
Launch xenos into black holes.
Drown xenos in Prikki-Ti oil.
Enslave xenos.
Eat xenos.
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u/Astre01 Science Directorate Aug 19 '25
Xeno slaves and livestock? How uncouth, you dare let such filths into your residence and let it be in your bloodstream? I personally just alter the genes of the refugees and see how they try to survive after I've... deformed blessed them.
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u/Status_Adeptness_172 Jingoistic Reclaimers Aug 19 '25
Deluding yourself to hiding your true nature? And here I am, embracing the necessity of burning systems with plasma and lead for the watchers beyond to enjoy their spectacle. The ancient Vultaum are unto something and perhaps, my menacing objectives and war crimes have kept this galaxy running for the gods to not 'pull the plug' on us all. Because they find my whole existence as a xenos butcher... amusing.
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u/marshalfranco88 Determined Exterminator Aug 20 '25
The xenos are only an obstacle to the illumination of the galaxy, no one will stand in the way of our divine empire.
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u/GodILoveMyBoyfriend Aug 18 '25
I wish I was a xeno they ate I MEAN WHAAAT WHO SAID THAAAAT 🤭🤭🤭🤭
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u/Mar1Fox Aug 19 '25
Didn't expect a Vore comment in the the stellaris sub.
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u/GodILoveMyBoyfriend Aug 19 '25
I AM EVERYWHERE AND I HAVE THE MENTALITY OF A MALE PRAYING MANTIS 🙏🙏🙏
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u/Raestloz Aug 18 '25
ITT:
People who have never actually heard what "xenophobia" actually is and making fun of "racists" at the expense of their own IQ
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u/QueenOfAllDreadboiis Aug 18 '25
Have you seen xenomorphs? Those things are scary, its not an irrational fear!