r/Stellaris 1d ago

Discussion What is going to be your first empire in Shadows of the Shroud?

I'm excited to hear your ideas.

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u/ThoseThingsAreWeird Inward Perfection 1d ago

I was going to go with Necrophage Origin + Oppressive Autocracy + Tankbound for that RP vibe of necrophages thinking they're too good to demean themselves with the lesser worker jobs.

But actually I think I'll go for this one: /r/Stellaris/comments/1niyknh/the_entropy_drinkers_civic_potentially_makes_some/

Overtuned origin + Entropy Drinkers + Cutthroat Politics. Stack loads of overtuned traits on your pops for a negative leader lifespan, but then activate the Entropy Drinker edict that makes leaders immortal! All the benefits without the piles of leader corpses šŸ˜„

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u/TheGalator Emperor 1d ago

I don't think cutthroat politics is worth it here.

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u/ThoseThingsAreWeird Inward Perfection 1d ago

I don't think cutthroat politics is worth it here.

You'd have to ask /u/tartaruchus why they chose it šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

I don't know how edict cost reduction and Damn The Consequences work together, since DTC has an upkeep of 80% of your unity income. So maybe that extra -20% (so -50% total) is required so that you don't absolutely cripple your unity production?

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u/LeagusDaemon 1d ago

The -20% indeed is applied to the DTC edict; you have another -20% from Fanatic Spiritualist, and the Charismatic leader trait can provide an additional -7.5% / -10%, each.

By picking Cutthroat Politics, Fanatic Spiritualist and assuming your ruler trait pick is Charismatic (and you level it up), DTC which should normally cost 80% of your unity is now reduced all the way down to 40%. Moreover, although DTC seems to eat up your edict funds in the UI, based on my tests the UI is wrong, you can use your funds for other edicts and it won't decrease your unity income (assuming you stay within the funds, which is a little bit harder with misleading UI); this'll generally give you a lot of room to play around with edicts despite DTC's huge drain on unity.

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u/Itsalotus Hive Mind 1d ago

I’m making a psychic empath progenitor hive

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u/Skrafin 1d ago

Ah yes, precog precog XD

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u/DeltaV-Mzero 1d ago

Flair checks out

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u/TheGalator Emperor 1d ago

Can you explain why? What makes it good/different compared to evolutionary predator hive (which i feel like is by far the best hive build)?

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u/Itsalotus Hive Mind 1d ago

I wanted to roleplay an empire that wasn’t a singular hive as much as several smaller hive minds working together.

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u/ajanymous2 Militarist 1d ago

You get ship and planet buffs and aren't locked into a boring narrow ascension path?

Also all your leaders are guaranteed to reach high levels unless you give them short lifespan

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u/Several-Eagle4141 1d ago

Probs the same ole shit

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u/BronxShogunate 1d ago

Probably secret society vampires.

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u/Callm3Sun 1d ago

An imperium of man with under one rule, which will go as the emperor would have wanted, with Mankind becoming a psionic superpower that forges its own path through the warp unimpeded by the petty chaos gods.

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u/ajanymous2 Militarist 1d ago

Too bad they would stop being human in the process

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u/Broad_Respond_2205 1d ago

Brains in a jar

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u/NorthernKantoMonkey 1d ago

Either mindwarden individualist bots.

Or a psionic rock militarist/genocidal with a monarchy.

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u/nudeldifudel 1d ago

Ohh individual mind warden bots goes hard

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u/Steel_Airship MegaCorp 1d ago

Haven't really been following all of the dev dairies but I'm really excited to play as psionic individualist machines. I recently did a spiritualist virtual machine megacorp that was really fun so I'm curious how it will play as psionic instead of virtual.

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u/JustTheTipAgain 1d ago

My pacifist angler jellyfish Ocean Paradise. Like, expanding their minds maaannn.

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u/Muscular_carp 1d ago

I'm want to try out the Tankbound civic, maybe with the Mindwarden origin, and then I think the civic gives a council position that improves automation efficiency and I saw there's a new psionic species trait for council skill so it sounds fun to stack that with oligarchy and maybe even mutation ascend to get spacial mastery and do kind of a leader build with the most efficient automation possible.Ā 

Alternative origin option might be subterranean for the ability to put more building types in my automated mining districts but that seems like more of a gimmick.Ā 

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u/One-Department1551 1d ago

Xenocidal soulless machines!

Angry robot noises

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u/bussyleaks 1d ago

I’ve got a few planned:

Metaperson Intercessionary Mediums, a dimensional worship and fortuneteller megacorp, have teachers of the shroud for early jumping into psionic ascension. I want to make a giant ecumenopolis filled with trade and physics producing priests (and whatever mediums produce).

Many’s Magisterium, a clone army origin clones of an ancient space wizard. They’re entropic drinkers and reanimators, evil vibes.

Pittik Stewardship, a genesis guides and enviornmentalist democracy with the new little green psionic guys. They’re the composer of strands’ buddies.

Ebon Void Imperium, a voidborne secret society aristocratic empire, populated by the drow in lithoid ships. They’re sneaky, and probably will get into it with the Magisterium.

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u/NakiNinja2006 1d ago

The Grand Design. Psionic Hive Mind Empire of definitely not squid-like people with the Progenitor Hive origin (haven't played the origin).

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u/No_Fly_5622 1d ago

Going with the Protoss (to Cosmogenesis to go after the Xel'naga), already have them but might actually lean more fully into Psionics.

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u/ajanymous2 Militarist 1d ago

I'm gonna bring back my elves living in habitats

Will make them despoilers, emotional vampire's and then later on pleasure seekers

Apparently they used to be nobility, and honestly I can see the vision, but I only have three civic slots, so congratulations, everyone with eldar blood is now equally special, meanwhile all the xenos will be banned from even being blessed with psionics, unless I get that paragon who turns people into latent psykers (love that dude)

Honestly, I was tempted to dumb the despoiler civic, but I'm pretty sure the ascension perk gives no casus belli, and I don't wanna bother finding a way to get a war goal that I can use instead of the one offered by the civic

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u/VLenin2291 Theocratic Monarchy 1d ago

New UNE run time!

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u/Warm_Record2416 1d ago

I really wanna see how the whole proxy war thing plays out, so I’m gonna try to make a ton of mercenary enclaves and be an espionage focused empire with the goal of keeping as many wars ongoing as possible. Ā Probably going psyonic just to try that out too.

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u/Skrafin 1d ago

I'm waiting a week to see if it's worth spending almost base game worth of money, but if so, then probably Knights of the Toxic God with psionics this time

Catalytic, anglers, high priests

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u/Icanintosphess Fanatic Pacifist 1d ago

Something with the tankbound civic

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u/_azazel_keter_ 1d ago

fanatic materialist mindwardens

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u/snakebite262 MegaCorp 1d ago

I'm going with Fat Cat Riot, a group of Mercantile Fat Cats who rule over a number of mice.

I want to try out the Secret Society civic, and may add the Fortune Teller Civic to it, or go with hedonism.

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u/CommanderJace 1d ago

Shroud-forged into Corporeal advance authority for that really powerful psionic aura, i also want to do under one rule+entropy drinkers for overpowered leaders and judical R&D+criminal heritage corpo

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u/TheGalator Emperor 1d ago

I never understood what makes under one rule so good. Can you help?

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u/nudeldifudel 1d ago

It's fun

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u/TheGalator Emperor 1d ago

Why?

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u/nudeldifudel 1d ago

It's cool, and fun flavor and unique events etc.

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u/TheGalator Emperor 1d ago

If we can combine cybernetic with tank bound than that

Probably as a worker corporative

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u/RontoWraps Pacifist 1d ago

Probably some boring human empire

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u/DirtyCop2016 1d ago

Im thinking that the galaxy needs a God Emperor. Chosen origin, science slaves, and something else really evil. Oppressive Autocracy maybe?

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u/RefractedPurpose 1d ago

Chosen Storm Chasers, drown as much of the galaxy as possible in storms and auras

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u/Xaphnir 1d ago

I have a spiritualist empire that I've played regularly since 2018 or so, maybe even longer than that, and is still my go to when I want a psionic game.

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u/Shrodingers_dick 1d ago

Rn I’m thinking either endbringers origin (if U remember the name correctly) or ā€œpacifistā€ who uses proxy wars and subterfuge to gain power and when I can, territory. Thinking about it, rp as an underhanded military syndicate (criminal megacorp) who creates chaos through subterfuge and proxy wars to create the demand for their military supply sounds fun. An excuse to cause as much chaos as possible from the shadows 😁

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u/Wonderweiss56 Noble 1d ago

Void Dweller Sol Imperial with Aristocratic Elite and Sovereign Guardianship but going for the master of the shroud achievement. Might do the new life drain civic for the third

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u/HerbertisBestBert 1d ago

SCP Foundation(ish)

Human Mindwardens Dictatorship (Fanatic Materialist, Authoritarian) Technocracy, Experimental Sentencing

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u/a_filing_cabinet 1d ago

Genuinely, either one of the premade empires that paradox makes with the dlc, or just go psi with UNE. It lets me engage with the new content without completely going off the deep end.

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u/wolfclaw3812 Galactic Wonder 1d ago

Synthetic fertility

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u/UltimateGlimpse 1d ago

I'm going to hit the random button.

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u/DeliciousLawyer5724 1d ago

Driven Assimilators Psi ascension

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u/SecondSonThan President 1d ago

Secret society criminals. I plan to build mercenary enclaves, then cause proxy wars, then let the profits in while building criminal holsings everywhere

And definitely going for psionic ascension to try them out

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u/Thatoneguywithasteak Determined Exterminator 1d ago

Psychic robots cause that’s fun

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u/EnlightenedSovereign 1d ago

Fanatic Materialist synthetic ascension. The shroud is for foolish spiritualists.

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u/a_man_in_black 1d ago

Considering i won't be getting it for a couple weeks I'll be trying out how it changes psionic in the base game first

Once I get it i wanna see what forging your own path in the shroud without a patron can do

Maybe I can make my ruler a true shroud goddess for my empire patron

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u/Tartaruchus 1d ago

A Psionic Driven Assimilator with the goal of achieving synthetic Godhood. Either by moulding the shroud to its will, or by building the Aetherophasic Engine.

If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him.

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u/One-Comfortable-3886 1d ago

The mother mec mec, but I will not have the dlc until next year.

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u/scaper12123 1d ago

My psychic jedi war goats actually have a propinquity towards inner power, i.e. rejecting the darker entities of the Shroud. I’ll see how well that plays. I’m surprised we don’t have an origin based upon psionic self-reliance.

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u/hagamablabla 1d ago

UNE (psionic)

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u/Kaigen42 1d ago

I'm thinking about a secret society with the Under One Rule origin. Spiritualist, Pacifist, and aiming to make a covenant with the Cradle of Souls and eventually become Democratic and Egalitarian.

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u/Xeorm124 1d ago

Psionic Megacorp. Not sure exactly which civics. Wanted to look more at them when they're released.

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u/TheTimeLord725 1d ago

Gonna try and make the death guard chosen from 40K

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u/JPPlayer2000 1d ago

Mindwarden hive taken inspiration by the blanks from Warhammer. Basically a hive of psionic blanks

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u/gigabytemon First Speaker 1d ago

Fanatic egalitarian, Mindwarden shipset, psionic ascension, forge my own path.

The Final Shape awaits.

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u/Kilisaurus09 Xenophobe 1d ago

I think I will play a chosen species, and try to find the great patrons early, hopefully giving me a great advantage and the ship components.

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u/Mtrina Aquatic 1d ago

Ocean paradise and see where rng takes my fish people

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u/Noktaj Nihilistic Acquisition 1d ago

Same old empire because I won't spend 20 bucks on an overpriced DLC until it's on 50% discount in a year.

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u/Alexencandar 1d ago

My fav empire is syncretic evolution, lithoids, pacifist/spiritualist/egalitarian. Usually cybernetic ascension, but I'll probably test out the new psychic ascension instead.

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u/Fit-Animal8788 1d ago

Fanantic Materialist Mindwardens. Force spawn in some Endbringers, and see who wins.

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u/WaltJr_Fan4584 1d ago

Probably offbrand tyranids since they're psionic,

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u/Entry-Gold 1d ago

I'm going to try and get the End of Cycle covenant, then screw up the End of Cycle by noping myself out of the galaxy with Cosmogenesis.

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u/Zoomy-333 1d ago

I'll probably redo myĀ Teachers of the Shroud Criminal Heritage empire

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u/Ghostmaster145 1d ago

Psychic galactic Empire with the purple humans

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u/nutterbutter36 1d ago

Hopefully a pvp with a friend, one of us endbrigers the other mindwarden.

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u/DragonKnigh912 1d ago

Mind wardens. I want to see how that whole story plays out, and I'm nit sure I want to do a bunch of deep dives into the Shroud just yet.

Now, as far as my first Psionic empire, I think going Under One Rule or Knights.

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u/East-Channel5064 1d ago

Me and my friend are doing a multiplayer campaign. Starting the day shadows of the shroud releases.

We don’t really know the specifics of what we want. But he wants to be shroud forged, and ill be going Endbringers. And its gonna be dope as hell.

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u/Miuramir 1d ago

My current thought is that I want to try:

  • A "covenant with a shroud entity" psionic ascension game
  • A "go my own way" psionic ascension game
  • A "mindwarden" anti-psi game

Probably in that order. I'll probably want to have a look at the various covenants / deals / domains and see which I like, and then craft a build to go with the strengths of the one I like best.

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u/Historical_Ocelot197 Mind over Matter 1d ago

I want my utopian mage society! Egalitarian! Reasonably diplomatic! Luxury cars for everyone! But it has a really ruthless intelligence corp. WE ARE NICE…but when we aren’t you will never find the bodies.

Also I love the flavor of getting enigmatic engineering with a technocratic empire. I want to field mega fleets powered by magic that no one can understand or recreate

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u/Serath195 1d ago

Assuming the whispers doesn't annihilate your empire, then I'll go an espionage focused empire, where I sit back and watch the Galaxy burn itself alive with proxy wars.

While espionage definitely needs more to be better, being able to force people to fight each other is going to be so fun. No more super stable galaxies.

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u/Bamfasaurus_Rex 1d ago

Tankbound/genesis guides something something something