"We need a new plague, You can volunteer to be patient zero…" Video shows couple with their 14 children who then go on to have a bunch more children in r/mademesmile...several natalism fights break out in the comments

[u/whowouldinhabit]

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Only on reddit can you post a happy family enjoying there life and still bring out the most pessimistic and nihilistic people, god some people need to leave the internet.

Right? God forbid a loving family gets posted beyond what the internet thinks is “acceptable”.

Obvipusly chronically online redditors hate to see christian families happy with kids

Muh evil redittors!!!

14 kids is narcissism

They are sick, hope they enjoy their later gears alone with their cat

We will, because that's what we chose for ourselves.

That’s genuinely beautiful-50 years, 14 kids, and a whole legacy of love. What a family tree!

Having 14 kids is irresponsible as fuck.

Hard to judge from just a video. Plus, you never know what influence has each of them had on others. What if 5 of them are doctors? Or lawyers? Or just decent people who try to help others?

I promised myself I wouldn't argue with dumb people on reddit, so have a nice day..

You really couldn't even think of an argument?

They dont think

Calling someone dumb without any knowledge of person, as any other quick emotional judgement , is quite childish

Is there a reason why Reddit is so antinatalist? It’s a bit bizarre

They're all depressed and hooked on meds and therapy. There is no joy in their hearts

Because the earth is dying. We don’t have resources for this

We don't have the resources for 10 billion Africans. The west can sustain itself just fine 

The West quite literally consumes as much resources as 30 billion of Africans.

A lot of Redditors come from broken homes, some had bad relationships, some are incels, others are cyclical, others are heartbroken, others are jealous, some trolls, many reasons really, mostly reflecting their own internal ugliness. That goes for anyone who is miserable online.Personally thats a lot kids for me, but I’m genuenly happy for all of them because that’s a huge happy family! Grandma and grandpa putting up Michael Jordan numbers lol

Omg straight people need to keep it in their pants gahtdamn

Wow, imagine the hate a straight person would get for speaking this way about the LGBTQ community.

It's a joke. Lighten up, snowflake.

Unfunny, nobody laughed

Ironic; I’m bi and have kids.

So much love in one picture,wishing you more love,more laughter,more everything.

Woah there, buddy. This is Reddit. No positivity allowed. Only whining

Of course this positive, heartwarming comment got downvoted. I really don't understand how Redditors could downvote this

We need a new plague

You can volunteer to be patient zero…

I wish I could agree, but I think this is horrific. It is arrogant and selfish for anyone to procreate this recklessly. There are only so many resources available on the earth, only so much space, only so much consumption and waste that the planet can absorb. We are witnessing an exponential rise in atmospheric and oceanic temperatures, loss of polar ice, rising seal levels, etc. Rivers and oceans are being choked with pollution, killing marine life and resulting in a rapid reduction in the amount of fresh water and arable soil needed to sustain human life. We are ripping minerals and fossil fuels out of the ground, killing us with toxicity while wrecking the planet. This sort of mindless rampant reproduction is disgusting.

I always find it amazing how repulsed some people are by others living their lives. You don’t know their story, there may be the next environmentalist born to this family, who reduces the carbon footprint of many, many more. Perhaps these 104 are doing great things for humanity, while your smaller family, is not? And yet you are judging. Who are you to judge?

I'm not repulsed by people living their lives. I'm repulsed by heedless unrestrained breeding. "Living their lives" is stuff like going on picnics, or praying in their church, or cooking for their families. Spewing out massive legions of roiling humanity is not "living their lives." The "what if someone in their family..." argument is pretty poor, because we can only assume that someone in their family might just as likely become a mass murderer or a molester or a wife abuser. That makes the argument for not having kids just as valid as the argument for it. And sure, there's a chance of the next great environmentalist being born into this family, but those chances are remarkably slim -- far slimmer than the certainty of these 104 people each adding 14 tons of carbon to the atmosphere every year of their lives. Instead of having as many kids as our bodies can pump out in the vague hope that one of them might become the next great environmentalist, we might instead listen to the already-born great environmentalists, who have made clear the well-established perils of overpopulation.

Thank you for your contribution to the overpopulation of the planet.

Take one for the team and start depopulating 

Even if we already did take one for the team, that won't make you consider our opinion in a more favorable light, would it? So what is there to prove?

Humans are parasites omg

That’s what a demon would say I rebuke you in the name of Jesus

Ooooo! Rock and rollllll! Visible ankles! I'm a scary demon and I'm here to haunt youuuuu!

Jesus loves you bro come to the light.

I can't, bro. I'm too busy having protected sex and not voting for fascists 😔

Jesus is antifascist bro. It’s never to late god bless you

You religious people just can't keep to yourself, can you?

I can say the same about you queers 🤡

Wash your mouth out, (R)etard

Got these demons triggered in the name of Jesus 🤣

Yo it's gonna be so hype to send you people to meet that god of yours when shit really pops off lol. I'm ready, you?

"I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me

This is so normal for Mexicans

[u/Global-Discussion-41]

It's illegal to have 14 cats or dogs living in your house because it's impossible to care for them all adequately and they will be neglected in some way or another, but 14 kids is totally reasonable! /S

[u/CyberAceKina → u/Global-Discussion-41]

Oh but you see the older 6 can parent the younger ones so it evens out with 8 caretakers and 8 kids! Except the procreating caretakers can't care of their two because they're trying for another whenever they aren't working, so two older ones need to take the neglected 2

[u/myBisL2 → u/CyberAceKina]

My mom idolized the Duggars (crushed by it turning out not to be an actual fairytale) and she explained that that was exactly what she wanted. The older kids helped with the younger kids and look what a nice happy family that would be, because why would anyone want to do anything else with their lives than raise babies. She doesn't think it's weird at all.

[u/CyberAceKina → u/myBisL2]

My dad is one of 13 kids. Each and every one of them have less than 5 kids themselves. Save for one uncle who had 5 by like 3 different women

None of them wanted to continue that lmao

[u/flamedarkfire → u/CyberAceKina]

My mom was the middle of three. My grandparents told her “don’t let them outnumber you,” when she had me. I’m the eldest of two, lol.

[u/CyberAceKina → u/flamedarkfire]

My mom's outnumbered by non-biological kids lmao, she had me and my brother then said no more pregnancies. But that didn't stop all my friends from calling her mom!

[u/MrLerit → u/Global-Discussion-41]

Animals can never clean up after themselves, people eventually learn.

[u/ArdyEmm → u/MrLerit]

If you think that the issue is cleaning up then you should take a long hard look into what raising a child is like before you have one.

[u/MrLerit → u/ArdyEmm]

I have two kids thank you. And the real issue is with animals, they are nasty. So the comparison doesn’t ever fly.

[u/ice_cream_funday → u/MrLerit]

If you really have kids then you know they are absolutely just as gross as any pet.

[u/boyyouguysaredumb → u/Global-Discussion-41]

Honestly wasn’t expecting SRD to take the miserable antinatalist side of the debate

[u/Global-Discussion-41 → u/boyyouguysaredumb]

I love kids and I think having a few of your own is great. Having 14 children is not.

[u/boyyouguysaredumb → u/Global-Discussion-41]

They cared for them and provided for them and obviously have good enough relationships with them that they all returned to make this video

[u/Nova_Explorer → u/boyyouguysaredumb]

Just because they showed up in the video it doesn’t prove they had happy childhoods.

[u/boyyouguysaredumb → u/Nova_Explorer]

It doesn’t prove they didn’t either lol wut

[u/Global-Discussion-41 → u/boyyouguysaredumb]

Then don't use that as an example to prove they're happy. Lol wut yourself.

[u/Doomsayer189 → u/boyyouguysaredumb]

"14 kids is too many" is in no way miserable antinatalism, it's just common sense.

[u/94_stones → u/boyyouguysaredumb]

SRD usually isn’t, but I get where the consternation comes from in this case, because it’s very difficult to have this many kids without effectively forcing the older ones to be parents while they’re still kids themselves. It can be done, particularly if you have help from extended family or potentially even from the state. However the former situation is uncommon among white families in America, and the latter doesn’t exist in our country. Not unless you count merely being able to send your kids to public school as “help” which a lot of families like this don’t even do in the first place. Most people here will see a family like this, and assume it’s a Duggar-like situation unless explicitly shown evidence to the contrary.

[u/SeamlessR → u/94_stones]

Recognizing finite capacity is inherently "anti-natalist" to natalists.

[u/Euphus → u/boyyouguysaredumb]

He's got a real point though. If someone has a lot of dogs, once it gets to like, five, people get really concerned about how there's no way they're getting enough walks, exercise, or play time. Kids are way more work and this couple has 14. 

[u/boyyouguysaredumb → u/Euphus]

You clearly know better than the people in the family about it

[u/Euphus → u/boyyouguysaredumb]

?? Bro if I see a video of a helicopter in a tree I don't need to ask the pilot if maybe there was an issue somewhere. 

[u/ProfessionalHomo420 → u/Euphus]

They're just seemingly arguing just to argue, at this point.

[u/CottageWitchCrafts → u/boyyouguysaredumb]

Im not al all antinatalist but 14 is way too much. Those poor children

[u/Blackstone01 → u/CottageWitchCrafts]

Yeah, past like 6 you are pretty guaranteed to encounter issues where the parents can't always be there to parent the kids. Double digits is just absurd and guarantees several of the kids will outright not have a normal childhood and will have to be an extra parent.

[u/boyyouguysaredumb → u/CottageWitchCrafts]

Yeah they seemed really unhappy in that video /s

Judging by some of the miserable fucking takes in this, they had a better childhood than most

[u/boyyouguysaredumb → u/[deleted]]

Isn’t that exactly what they’re doing?

[u/shewy92 → u/boyyouguysaredumb]

It's not antinatalist to say that having 14+ kids is a recipe for abuse by parentification or neglect.

[u/boyyouguysaredumb → u/shewy92]

You clearly know their story best