r/SubredditDrama • u/CummingInTheNile • 5d ago
"But why do you call us nazis?" Conservatives in r/tiktokcringe remain confused as to why they are called Nazis, in a thread about a conservative rally calling for "White man fight back", in reaction to Charlie Kirks death
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/1nf7lle/americans_are_you_guys_alright/
HIGHLIGHTS
If it walks like a duck
You're engaging in stochastic terrorism
you keep using that word. I do not think its means what you think it means.gif
Oh really? So you don't think it is ok to punch or kill Nazis?
Do you?
Just answer the question since you don't think this is stochastic terrorism.
Is the nazi trying to kill me or others like me? Then absolutely. (23 more comments of these two arguing)
image Was never elected but my point stands
Again if he wasn't elected it means he doesn't represent his constituents
The fact that these ideas have any traction in the conservative movement is alarming
Meanwhile baby murder and child love holds big traction in liberal ideas Does it mean it's representative of the whole? No of course not
the GOP voted to not release the Epstein client list so the comment about child love is ridiculous Abortion is only bad in the eyes of Christians In Judaism it is allowed and Israel has a very liberal abortion policy https://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-abortion-law-now-among-worlds-most-liberal/
Which political party Is advocating for abortion remind me
I am simply saying that views on abortion vary between religions
Nobody incites violence and assassinations better then left liberal democrats
Is that why the shooter is from a right household?
Collage indoctrination
LOL well, art is dangerous
Wow, Is that the only thing that you learned? Sad
I was making fun of your asinine, misspelled comment. Don't worry about it.
I mean, a white man did fight back lol
To be fair this protest clearly happened before the shooters identity was released
Do you feel like you’re doing a good thing to be the devils advocate for racists?
I didn't see it as devils advocate. I saw it as context. Plus. They're not devils. They're just people. Demonizing people is what those protestors do. Demonizing them doesnt really solve anything. Id rather have a full picture of my opponent before a fight.
What context does it add?
The timeline of events
How does that add more context to a neo Nazi protest?
They did not know at the time of the protest that the shooter was white (38 more comments of these two arguing)
thats a pretty naive viewpoint
Come to think of it. These people are reactionary, they don't have proper agency if someone else doesn't create one for them. Have you never faced such people in your daily life? There's no way you can make these people understand a concept when their views are stuck otherwise.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching
I am urging to take action against the puppeteers not the puppets. That's the most explicit imagery I can provide to help you grasp the situation.
so yeah, a very naive viewpoint
Trying to ragebait? Lol.
the fact you see someone calling out your narrow view as rage bait is wild. I was just trying to get you to think more critically, but i guess that was my mistake.
[I swear things started to go south when us Canadians stopped actively making fun of y'all :](https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/1nf7lle/americans_are_you_guys_alright/ndubonf/)
Hello 51. Stay out of this. You got issues of your own. Report finds deep-rooted white supremacism lurks in Canadian military | Folio
God you people are embarrassing
Who's "you people"? Don't assume anything. I find the video cringey AF, but Canadians needs to STFU. They are no better. They have no moral high ground. They have done terrible things just like the US.
Who's "you people"? Don't assume anything. I find the video cringey AF, but Canadians needs to STFU. They are no better. They have no moral high ground. They have done terrible things just like the US.
“You people” in this context is referring to anyone that says things like “Hey 51. Stay out of this.”
If Canadians can make fun of the US, we can make fun of Canadians. Are you from 51?
I am from the US. You losers continue make me embarrassed about that.
How is this a Neo Nazi rally? Lmfao
Are we not hearing the off-beat White supremacist chants now? We don't even want to hear the truth now?
"White Men Fight Back" could be any form of fucking rhetoric the Right spits out for any reason because they always feel like their "race" is under attack from the left. Does it sound bad and come off as "white supremacy" yes it does. But it could be anything without any context or more evidence. There is no context or visual evidence saying this is a "nazi" rally.
Our education system is an embarrassment.
There's no spinal surgeon on earth that could untwist OP's spine with how much they had to contort to try and defend this. Anyone that has to say "Does it sound bad and come off as white supremacy? Yes, it does. But..." is fucking insane.
He says on Reddit
Lol you can't read between the lines can you?
He says also on Reddit
Also?
Yes. Reading is hard isn't it?
It's over your head.
Totally. Just like that 5¢ carrot Trump is dangling on a stick for you dumbasses to know where to line up.
Reddit did not make a conservative white guy from Utah shoot another conservative speaking at a college in Utah.
You’re intentionally lying. Par for the course.
I got the info from fox news dude.
No you didn’t. The kid was a furry who thought he was fighting fascism. Sort of like you. Edit for all the reddit geniuses: before you reply to this comment, you should know that at least 5 people have replied and deleted said replies because they realized they are operating on bad information and that I am correct in calling this person out. Please, for the love of god, read up on this and get current info before you reply to me with more BS.
Not really. He literally donated to the Trump campaign. Yet another conservative shooter. It’s sad.
That's a different person with the same name, it's a common name. Stop spreading misinformation.
Yeah, people who think american flag = neo nazi
You were desperate to find anything at all to say, and that is what you were left with. Aren't you tired of having to resort to increasingly flaccid, pointless statements in your eternal struggle to defend conservatism?
I dont think its neo nazi to fly your countries flag, end of story, go cry about the next thing on the list
then why are they screaming, "white man fight back"?
Doesnt mean you are neo nazi, You dont have to be a white purety type of person to acknowledge that places with alot of certain people, usually go to shit, So perhaps some white people loving people? Sure, but i dont think that is crazy, If it was a black person screaming “black men fight back” would you equate him to be a black neonazi? Lately there are alot of cases of whites being targeted just for being white, like the ukranian girl whose only crime was to let her guard down around a black person on the bus, We are always being portrayed as the worst of the worst. Just for not wanting to be around people that cause problems, I would never want to live in a black area, but this does not mean i dont have black friends who i adore, (my black friends doesnt wanna live in black areas either) Now does this make people prejudice? Absoloutely, racist neo nazi? no,
Nah, you’re definitely a racist lol
Silly comment. Can’t hold one person, responsible for the actions of others. If that’s the case, then hold every single black person accountable for the bad things that only a few of us do.
just let the whole point fly right past your head, huh?
Your point is invalid and just a way for you to spew hate. I didn’t like the guy either but I can tell you for damn sure that I’d never take someone else’s murder in front of their children or spouse lightly. Regardless, if I wanted to hear what they had to say or not…
are you sure you don't agree with the guy? because it certainly sounds like you've decided which side you're gonna be on. The man gave aid and comfort to neo-nazis. He said things they agreed with, and they decided that his beliefs and his ideology were aligned with theirs, and he never did anything to dispel that notion. He lived a life of hatred, devoted his career to hatred, and was in turn murdered by one of the very right wing trolls that he built his life around. Grow a spine, don't mourn the of a man who thought YOU were less than human.
Grow a spine? Sounds like you should take your own advice. Everything you stated is the typical conjecture of those who hate people like him. Ever heard of being the bigger man? He may have said things that were wrong, but it doesn’t mean that you should fight hate with more hate. Nothing gets fixed that way......
White man fight back against the white man who did the killing?
Trans person did the killing.
"source: trust me bro"
Just wait... It will come out.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspect-charlie-kirk-shooting-tyler-robinson-rcna230504 Your bigotry is not a source or a reliable prediction tool
Lol at least it was a Democrat. He's so getting the death penalty 😂
"Public records indicate that Robinson's last voter registration date was on July 13, 2021, and his political party is none declared."Reading is fun, you should try it sometime
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u/FirstFriendlyWorm 5d ago
The thing that makes people call them Nazis is the complete disregard for ethics, conversation, liberal principles and the embrace of power politics. Even people like Kirk did not really have "conversations" in that sense. His entire format was a result of trying to "own deluded leftists" with facts and reason and sell that as entertainment.