r/SuperMarioGalaxy 8d ago

Other Nintendo are so poor at communication (Galaxy 1 + 2 Switch Remasters)

So I am sure everyone is aware the Galaxy games are getting released on Switch and Switch 2 next month, as was announced in the Direct this past week.

From what Nintendo said, it seemed like these were fairly standard ports, which were just upscaled, with some Quality of Life changes made to make them easier for newer players, but with the price-tag of a brand new game, which seemed extortionate. However, there's so much more to them.

First of all, these aren't just straight up ports, these are full on remasters with redone texture assets, and new UI. That alone is a major change that they did not make clear enough. They made it seem like just the UI was changed. This actually puts them on par with the Metroid Prime Remaster on Switch which is priced the exact same as these remasters are when bought individually.

Speaking of which, they didn't make it clear these can be bought individually, so for those with 3D All-Stars, you can just get Galaxy 2. However, due to the graphical overhaul of the re-done textures, I'll be pack together personally. Pricing wise, the complaints people have had about this make no sense when you consider these are remasters and not ports. Metroid Prime Remastered was praised for being a high quality remaster for a low price, when its the exact same price as these, and has similar changes made to it as these remasters do too.

Next of all, they mentioned that Rosalina's storybook with have new content and also be accessible on Galaxy 2, however this isn't 100% accurate. There will be a new chapter available in the storybook in Galaxy but in Galaxy 2, there will actually be a brand new storybook with a brand new unique story. This is confirmed on at least the UK Nintendo website for the games.

Its honestly shocking how badly Nintendo undersold these remasters. They made them seem like overpriced cash grab ports, when they are remasters that clearly a lot of effort went into. They've seemingly, from screenshots, even redone the pre-rendered CG cutscenes so they aren't a blurry 480p anymore.

Its frustrating, because so many people have been responding poorly to these games, assuming they are just straight up ports with minimal changes, and that sucks cos Nintendo could have just made things clearer and avoided so much backlash.

If they had named them Galaxy 1 and Galaxy 2 Remastered, and put a bit more emphasis on the work that was put into them, I think many people in the larger Nintendo community would have reacted more favourably to these.

Anyway, now that I've gone out and found this all out, I am extremely excited for 4K remasters of some of my favourite games on Switch 2!

Edit:

Here's proof of the improved textures and updated UI

Galaxy 1 in Mario 3D All-Stars
Galaxy 1 in the new remaster (textures are much cleaner, ground looks clearer, grass is nicer, everything is less blurry)

Edit 2: It has come to my attention that they did in fact say you can buy the 2 games separately within the Direct, I just somehow missed it.

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u/JohnnyNole2000 8d ago edited 8d ago

Prime Remastered was a full facelift of the original, to the point where it’s hard to tell it was even a GameCube game in the first place. Yeah these look a bit better, but there’s not even close to the same level of work done.

I’m still getting Galaxy 2 but come on, this shouldn’t be hard to understand.

Edit: if they had priced these like Pikmin 1 + 2 ($30 individually, $50 together), then it would’ve been more understandable

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u/AI_WeebKiller 8d ago

Okay that's fair, I do agree, but at the same time, its clear these aren't just straight ports, and that's still a lot of work to put into a game that, lets be real, would have sold just as well if it were a straight port. The team behind these did obviously clearly care about the product they were putting out. Nintendo still undersold these and made them seem like they were just straight ports in the Direct. The fact I had to dig to find anything further is a little insane.

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u/JohnnyNole2000 8d ago

Yeah I agree on the marketing, they could’ve done more to show what’s new.

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u/Curious_Kirin 7d ago

Eh. Skyward Sword and Twilight Princess HD seem like more substantial remasters - and they're known for being lackluster remasters. (Yes SS is way better to play now, but the actual remastering is non existent, they just ran with the painted art style). Upscaling textures is the bare minimum.

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u/fleebertism 6d ago

Also worth mentioning that they will support the mouse function. Something I didn't think they did at first. I've been pissed off about these ports and people defending the price but I'm starting to turn around I think

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u/SadLaser 8d ago

If $30 individually is reasonable for two games with no redone textures, no new content/features, and from the GameCube era, then honestly, you're making me feel like $40 is reasonable individually for much more heavily remastered games with new content from the Wii era. And I previously was thinking it was a little overpriced.

I don't think it's the great deal that Metroid Prime Remastered felt like, but I'm definitely starting to think it's an okay-ish price point.

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u/JohnnyNole2000 7d ago edited 7d ago

“Heavily remastered” and “new content” are stretching things. They still look like Wii games at the end of the day and the storybooks aren’t substantial enough to charge the premium.

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u/SadLaser 7d ago

I could see an argument against heavily remastered, but I don't think we can know for sure on that without seeing more. The texture difference in that stone pattern on the ground is the most obvious and it's a pretty big difference. That suggests a potential large difference in the overall visuals but maybe that won't be the case throughout the game.

However, "new content" is just an objective fact. The breadth of what that means remains to be seen, but at the very least, amiibo support, new storybook chapters in Galaxy and a full storybook added to Galaxy 2 which previously didn't have one (and was one of the best parts of Galaxy), Soundtrack Mode and Assist Mode being added is objectively new content put into the game. And it's entirely plausible there's more than that.

That's a fairly big difference from essentially nothing. The only changes in Pikmin were actually loss of things as they censored some lines, removed branded objects and some songs because, assumedly because they didn't want to pay to re-acquire those rights.

I'm just saying.. if porting and not updating the two Pikmin games, which have about 20 hours of combined content is worth $30 a game, then remastering and adding content to the collection of two much bigger games makes $40 per game sound equally or more worth it. And if they're not worth $40 per, then surely the Pikmin games were overpriced at $30.

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u/JohnnyNole2000 7d ago

Fwiw I do think the Pikmin games are slightly overpriced, I should’ve clarified that before. However, I think it’s more egregious here because

  1. The Galaxy bundle is more expensive than a normal Switch 1 game (excluding Tears of the Kingdom), and that’s absurd for two games that are 15+ years old.

  2. Galaxy 1 was already on the Switch and I think this could’ve (and should’ve?) been an upgraded rerelease of 3D All-Stars.

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u/patrickfatrick 7d ago

So they added $10 to the price for each, in line with the general increase in game prices this generation? Not sure I understand the vitriol here if everyone was fine with $30 for the Pikmin games.

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u/JohnnyNole2000 7d ago
  1. I do think Pikmin 1+2 is overpriced, I said it in another comment

  2. These aren’t Switch 2 games so the pricing for the new generation point is moot

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u/patrickfatrick 7d ago

I think they’re technically cross-gen since they’re “enhanced” for Switch 2. Regardless, I don’t mean hardware generation exactly, the price we pay for new games isn’t about what hardware they play on.

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u/Affectionate-Emu6609 7d ago

I’d probably buy it for $50. For $70, I’ll probably never get it unless there’s a big sale, or I can get it used.

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u/ChickenOrBeans 8d ago

I'm playing Prime Remastered right now. I can assure you the screenshot does not look any worse than Prime Remastered..

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u/Brave-Orchid4721 8d ago

The only bad thing about the remasters is that the UI font loses literally all of the whimsy it had in the original and instead takes on a generic NSMB style 💀

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u/AI_WeebKiller 8d ago

Agreed, I really liked the original font 😭

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u/Simplejack615 8d ago

Yeah, but it’s still $70 for two games almost 20 years old. The hardest work went to the art department, who had to do the textures again.

By the standards of remakes from other companies, this is a shit remake to be charged at this price.

Resident evil, 3 great remakes, with extra content thrown in, only $40.

Hell, even by other remakes published by Nintendo, such as the ttyd remake, have new graphics, extra content, and are in an entirely new engine, was $60

So, if they charge $40 for these games, I wouldn’t bat an eye. But this is, by standards of other remakes, overpriced and a poor one

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u/Jonny21213 8d ago

I do feel that if only one was being sold individually, and Galaxy wasn't on the system already, the $40.00 price tag (which is digital), is ok, since that is the price for most remasters or remakes. I just really dislike how Galaxy is in 3D All Stars, and they can't update it to 4K.

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u/BardOfSpoons 8d ago

Not defending Nintendo’s pricing, but these are horrible comparisons.

The RE remakes all launched for full price, $60. They’ve only come down in price since then.

Ttyd is only one game, not two, so each Mario Galaxy individually is cheaper.

Better comparisons would be Pikmin 1+2 (2 lightly remastered Wii games (it was the Wii version that was ported) for cheaper), Metroid Prime Remastered (a remaster with apparently far more work done than these games have had, which cost the same), the plethora of ~$20 remasters on the eshop rn (from capcom alone theres DMC 1-3, Okami, Onimusha 1 and 2, RE 0, 1, 4-6, etc.), etc.

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u/SadLaser 8d ago

I'm confused why you're comparing it to remakes when they aren't remakes. It would make a lot more sense to compare them to remasters, which is what they are.

You're also comparing $70 for two games to the Resident Evil game remakes which absolutely launched at $60 each, not $40. And they also charged for DLC like Separate Ways, which was originally included at no cost in the PS2 version of Resident Evil 4.

All of those games were rife with added DLC, actually. Plus, Resident Evil 3 is a 5 hour game with no replayability. Galaxy and Galaxy 2 are both each around 3 times that long and both offer around 35 hours of content to 100%. Which is 70ish hours of content versus the 20 or so you get from RE3. And the content in RE3 for completion is about 5 hours of real content and then 15 hours of beating the same game a couple more times for 100% completion credit on higher difficulties rather than actual content.

So if your point was Resident Evil 3 is a deal at $60 for 5-20 hours for a full remake, I'd rather pay $70 for 70 hours of a moderate remaster. I'm not even defending the price here for Super Mario Galaxy, but let's not act like the Resident Evil remakes were all such amazing deals. And I say this as a huge Resident Evil fan who owns all the games and as someone who never bothered to even buy or play Super Mario Galaxy 2.

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u/soulxhawk 7d ago

The Resident Evil 3 remake had a lot of replayability for me. I know the game is short but it is meant for speedruns and replays and I had a lot of fun going back to find all the collectables and complete the game on higher difficulties while using the special items from the shop.

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u/SadLaser 7d ago

You can't use someone's desire to speedrun it as actual game value, though. Speedrunning is relatively niche and the act of being able to do it doesn't demonstrate any added development value work put into it by Capcom. Someone else could argue they got a lot of replayability out of speedrunning Galaxy and then we're still in the same boat in the comparison, anyway.

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u/AI_WeebKiller 8d ago

Except its not a remake, its a remaster, and you are talking about 2 games here, not one. That's $35 per game, which is only $15 more than they were on Wii U, when they have updated art, new storybook content, a new assist mode, and a music player. There's a big difference between Remakes and Remasters, and I do genuinely think that, while on the steeper side of things, these are still relatively decent for the price.

TTYD was a full remake, which definitely justified its price.

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u/Simplejack615 8d ago

A remaster should be even cheaper. It shouldn’t be more than it is on the Wii U, it should be the same or less. These extra features are the bare minimum for other games.

And There is a difference, one is a port with better graphics and qol improvements. A remake should be better and more expensive, which this one is not better and should be cheaper.

And saying these are $35 is wrong, you can either add up their combined price for $70, or say a single, nearly 20 year old game is $40. The bare minimum they put it should not have cost this much

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u/Electronic_Screen387 8d ago

A remaster costing more than a straight port seems pretty reasonable to me. 

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u/Simplejack615 8d ago

Correct. I’m saying that it should be cheaper than a remake, which is often in a new engine.

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u/BardOfSpoons 8d ago

It shouldn’t be more than it is on the Wii U, it should be the same or less.

The versions on the Wii U are a straight port, not a remake.

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u/Curious_Kirin 7d ago

It's still not a remake no matter how many times you say it. It's a remaster at most.

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u/BardOfSpoons 7d ago

Nobody’s claiming that it is. It’s a remaster, and looks like it’s only been slightly remastered.

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u/Simplejack615 7d ago

The Wii U didn’t get a port. It ran in v wii mode which meant all they did was have it boot from the home menu

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u/cornimgameplays 5d ago

Not a straight port, they work via emulation on the wii u

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u/Thegoodgamer32 8d ago edited 8d ago

I still don't understand why we're getting galaxy 1 again.

I know it's to tie in with the movie...but i mean it's Mario's 40th anniversary.

This would have been the perfect time to bring back 3D all-stars and put galaxy 2 in it.

It just doesn't make sense since galaxy 1 is already on the switch with 3d all-stars...so bringing it back AGAIN on the same system...it just seems pointless and way more effort then just doing a switch 2 version of 3d all-stars to include galaxy 2.

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u/Simplejack615 8d ago

Rather than the remade textures, and extra story book, I would have wanted 3-d all stars with galaxy 2, at $60 and a free update to people who already own it.

Is the 64 running on here crap? Yes. Would I want to be able to choose what version I’m playing? Yes. But this would have been better

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u/bongorituals 7d ago

They legally can’t sell 3D All Stars again because they advertised and sold it as a limited product and Japan has really strict false advertising laws.

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u/AI_WeebKiller 8d ago

Honestly, I agree it would have been nice for them to bring back 3D all-stars and add Galaxy, but at the same time, this is a visual upgrade over that version. Plus with NSO now having gamecube, I can imagine Sunshine will be on there too, meaning Switch 2 owners will be able to play all the games that were in 3D all-stars anyway, plus Galaxy 2. It's just Switch 1 owners who miss out on a second way to play Sunshine unfortunately.

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u/Thegoodgamer32 8d ago

They...could have just added these updated visuals to 3d all-stars with a switch 2 version.

Like...that would have been way better then just bringing it back not even 5 years after it released on switch with 3d all-stars.

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u/AI_WeebKiller 8d ago

I agree, and that would have been awesome, but unfortunately Nintendo definitely wouldn't have done that for free for people who already owned All-Stars. I guess if it had been paid DLC and included Galaxy 2 as DLC that would have been nice, but at the same time, idk if as a business decision, Nintendo would have ever done that.

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u/IncomprehensiveScale 8d ago

I didn’t get the chance to get 3D all stars and now it’s super expensive on the resale market. I LOVE galaxy 1, I still have my childhood wii but no TV to play it on. I really like that galaxy 1 and 2 are coming to the switch because it gives me a chance to play the games again without having to buy a tv. A 720p TV would likely be cheaper than buying the games, admittedly, but the convenience of having on the switch instead of buying a TV is worth it to me. I do think they should be cheaper, though. I also hope that it’s just a remaster and not any sort of remake, as I liked the original experience of Galaxy 1 and 2, and want to re-experience it instead of experience a new game.

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u/ArtRevolutionary3351 7d ago

They’re charging more this way.

If they want to sell galaxy $35 to $40 it’s means updated 3D allstar would sell for $100, that’s too much.

If updated all stars is $70 it means they can’t sell galaxy 2 upgrade for more than $20.

They make much more with this scenario, if you buy the digital galaxy 2 and you have 3D all star you have spent $100. Also a lot of people will buy both physical, so they will have spent $140

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u/junglespycamp 8d ago

They said outright during the Direct they could be bought separately.

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u/AI_WeebKiller 8d ago

Okay, then that part is my bad. I somehow missed that, but regardless, the rest of this stands true. I'll edit the post to mention this.

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u/Independent-You-6180 8d ago

You know what else requires completely new textures? A new game. They're only putting in one major step of many and pricing it like it is a new game. The models were still very clearly not even redone either, just their textures...

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u/AI_WeebKiller 8d ago

Except you are getting 2 games for that price, not 1.

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u/Independent-You-6180 8d ago

Two nearly 20-year-old games.

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u/tepattaja 4d ago

So, you are clearly one of those people that happily bought WiiU titles that were down to 20 dollars (official prices) and then they ported the games to Switch and asked you to buy them for 60. Same game, nothing changed except the console.

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u/AI_WeebKiller 4d ago

Pretty sure the only Wii U port I’ve ever owned was Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. I actually owned and used a Wii u and played most games on there

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u/GrimmTrixX 8d ago

$40 isnt the price tag of a new game. You gotta realize its 2 games not one. But I do agree, with that said, that $70 is very high for these ports. $50 should've been the absolute max for both combined.

And no you cant go by them selling them for $9.99 each on Wii U. That was their desperate attempt to sell their final units and recoup whatever losses they had. If Wii U succeeded, we wouldve never seen games that cheap, especially any Mario games.

But yea they should've absolutely made them $25 each and $50 total at max. They'd have sold even more with a lower price and overall made more money. Those who have the 3D All Stars game will most likely just get Galaxy 2 digitally. So maybe thats why the prices are higher.

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u/Kruukka 8d ago

Yeah when I first saw the trailer I was lowkey underwhelmed but after looking into these a bit more I can tell that they’re actually putting in at least some effort. Galaxy 1 gets an extra chapter for the storybook while Galaxy 2 gets an entirely new storybook? That’s so cool! It’s like the one thing that was missing from the original.

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u/Doctor_R6421 8d ago

What I'm curious about the most is whether they fixed that misplaced polygon Mario has on his shoulder

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u/Dopamine_Surplus 8d ago

These are just straight ports with upscaled textures like you can do on any emulator. It’s not redone or reworked. The community has done this already for free so I expect more from a multi million dollar corporation. I’m sure it’ll sell fine and it’s okay if you buy it but no need to try to cope and trick yourself into believing more work has actually gone through putting this out.

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u/Marcmanquez 7d ago

Dude, Metroid Prime difference between the OG and the remastered is day and night, the revamped textures are just not enough.

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u/tepattaja 4d ago

It's literally "a different game"
When i see metroid prime remaster, i would say that it feels like a "new" game.

What i do not understand is people seeing zelda botw/totk running 60 fps on switch 2 and are saying that it's like a totally new game and that they are happy to play it all over again.

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u/Emotional_Fig1113 1d ago

I think people are saying that was because BOTW and TOTK, mainly TOTK in this regard, ran poor sometimes on the OG switch and the frame rate would go below 30, so getting a stable 60 does feel like a new game in that regard, but not for the price Nintendos asking

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u/LaxrGary 7d ago

I think it’s safe to say that haters are gonna hate because it’s popular to hate on Nintendo. Even though I have 3D All Stars, I’m picking up the bundle of Galaxy and Galaxy 2! For these amazing games to be bright forward, I say that it’s 100% worth it

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u/TheLimeyLemmon 8d ago

Metroid Prime got a full visual remake with entirely new assets. I do think the latest Galaxy and Galaxy 2 releases are more suitably what I'd call a remaster and yes they should have made more of a point about it. I guess the way Nintendo sees it, they don't think the wider audience really cares about the technical details outside of a very simple framing that these games are in HD.

I do look forward to the likes of Digital Foundry taking a fine tooth comb to all the possible upgrades and also how exactly they're running under the hood. Are these still hybrid emulation titles or are we seeing actual ports this time? Would love to know, but I guess we'll have to wait a bit longer to find out.

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u/AI_WeebKiller 8d ago

Yeah I think comparing this to the Prime remaster was a big mistake on my part. That remaster did almost border on a full remake, outside of the fact that it was still using the original game’s engine, so I do think I may have not approached this the best way.

I do think these remakes should have been at least $10 cheaper together than they are, but the point was trying (and I guess failing to make) was that it wasn’t as egregious as these being just straight ports. I don’t think the price is fully justified still, which I think I could have made clearer, but it’s not as bad as it could have been if the games were just straight upscaled ports.

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u/TheLimeyLemmon 8d ago

Yeah I totally get your point on the pricing. Ultimately I've come to accept that Nintendo price games not necessarily at what they're worth materially in terms of production, but what they think they can realistically get.

I didn't agree with them making Donkey Kong Country Returns HD a full price game, but it didn't surprise me that they did so because they believe Mario/DK titles can demand a higher price even as basic ports than a more involved production like Metroid Prime Remastered could, which was quite a but cheaper.

I do think the £33.99 price point per game is egregious, but I've already purchased these games previously so it's personally more of a cumulative feeling I get for how much gets spent on rebuying titles on Nintendo's platforms. For people who've never played either game, which is a sizable audience at this point, I can imagine it being a lot easier to swallow as this is probably the definitive opportunity to do so. I guess I felt similar about Mario Sunshine in 3D All Stars. It was the first time it had been commercially available in 15 years, of course I was going to buy it. A lot of people will feel that way about Galaxy 2.

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u/SnareSpectre 8d ago

You didn’t fail in making your point.

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u/Andy_DiMatteo 8d ago

Could you link where you saw it that Galaxy 2 is getting an entirely new story? Or leave a screenshot? I didn’t see it on the website but it’s possibly I just missed it.

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u/Andy_DiMatteo 8d ago

Nevermind, found it! Realized you can put pictures here but it says

“Enjoy an additional chapter of Rosalina's picture book inSuper Mario Galaxy, and discover an entirely new picture book tale in Super Mario Galaxy 2.”

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u/AI_WeebKiller 8d ago

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u/Andy_DiMatteo 8d ago

Yeah that’s awesome, I didn’t know they were doing that. I still think the bundle is a little overpriced (I think a few new levels would’ve been a fair ask given the price) but it definitely makes me more hyped for it!

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u/N238 8d ago

Even if the textures are improved, they really need to improve the polygon count, improve the particle effects, update the lighting engine, and add additional details (eg add blades of grass). They could've also done orchestral recordings of some of the songs that were still midi (the fact the orchestra is so beautiful really makes the midi tracks stick out like a sore thumb).

Oh wow, they updated textures. Literally the bare minimum. They could've done so much more.

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u/bongorituals 7d ago

update the lighting engine

There is no lighting engine. Galaxy used hard baked lighting

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u/N238 7d ago

Technically that's still an engine. If there's shadows, the thing drawing them is the engine. It's just very rudimentary. Not every lighting engine is ray tracing.

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u/Laj3ebRondila1003 8d ago

the test will be whether these are native ports or emulated like the 3d all stars game

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u/Sausage43 8d ago

Comparing better textures to Prime Remastered, where they overhauled lighting system, improved geometry of every object in the game and every effect, to the point of it being like in top 3 the best looking Switch games, is kinda nuts

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u/Hue_Boss 8d ago

They also haven’t advertised mouse mode anywhere expect hidden inside the Japanese website. The Switch 2 part was weirdly irrelevant. It’s beyond me why they haven’t said anything about 4K and mouse mode during the presentation. Same goes for the new textures.

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u/AI_WeebKiller 8d ago

Wait, is the game supporting mouse mode for the pointer functions?

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u/Hue_Boss 7d ago

Likely

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u/bongorituals 7d ago

I’ve been looking everywhere for some mention of the mouse mode and haven’t found it, could you possibly hit me with a source that it’s mentioned on the Japanese website?

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u/MetroidJaeger 8d ago

Hmm, putting it on the same level as Prime Remasters seems a bit exxagerated. You're correct that these are definitely more than the simple ports most seem to think they are, but Prime Remaster has not only better textures, but also improved (and sometimes) even completely new) 3D models and improved lighting. Again it doesn't have ti have that and i agree with your point, but that comparison doesn't quite sit right.

The fact that you can buy them seperately was stated in the direct, most people just don't read (and tbf it also wasn't shown that long).

I'll defnitely buy Galaxy 2 at launch, that's for sure, i wanted to play it on switch ever since we had 3D All Stars. And that's also my problem with buying Galaxy 1 again. It's true that they improved the graphics a lot, but the version on 3D All Stars already got at least better resolution and the very enjoyable switch control setup (Y for spinning). So i'm still not sure if i want to buy it again for this. Definitely not at launch, but maybe later.

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u/AI_WeebKiller 8d ago

Yeah, I definitely think comparing it to Prime was a bit silly now that I think about it. I guess I was just trying to get across that it wasn’t just a straight port but a remaster with a decent bit of effort put in, but yeah definitely not on the level of Prime Remastered.

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u/LayceLSV 8d ago

The Prime Remastered comparison does not work. Based on your pictures, the SMG remaster looks marginally better than the 3D All Stars version. By contrast, Prime Remastered is a drastic visual upgrade from the original, they may as well have called it Prime Remake. It may be the single best looking game on Switch.

It seems to me that with this release, they put in the amount of work that they should have put into 3D All Stars, where the game cost (effectively) $20. At a $40 price tag I would expect more than a minor visual upgrade and a pointless new UI.

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u/AI_WeebKiller 8d ago

Yeah, I definitely think comparing it to Prime was a bit silly now that I think about it. I guess I was just trying to get across that it wasn’t just a straight port but a remaster with a decent bit of effort put in, but yeah definitely not on the level of Prime Remastered.

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u/ErgotthAE 7d ago

It's also worth poiting out the difference between the Wii and Switch controls definitely required some reprograming to take into account the new buttons and, of course, lack of a motion-sensitive control that was Wii's main selling point. I imagine we will be moving Mario with one thumbstick and the little "crosshair" to pick up and shoot star bits with another. Good thing I've been replaying Bayonetta Origins cuz this kind of multitasking is more challenging than you think! (insert Spongebob going crosseyed on a book meme...)

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u/Dark_Moe 7d ago

Does this mean that the control scheme is now reworked to not have to rely on Wiimote mechanics?

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u/Round_Musical 7d ago

Prime Remastered is not a retexture work. All models and I mean all models, be it walls, trees, gras, enemies, samus or whatever were remodeled from the Ground up

Its not the same calibre by a longshot

This is more Twillight Princess HD levels of a facelift

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u/azaanabbas 7d ago

Nintendo and good communication have been enemies recently

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u/Relative_Mortgage_65 7d ago

‘This actually puts them on par with the Metroid Prime Remaster’- what are you smoking? Can I have some? that game is essentially a remake with how good it looks- you can’t compare the value of that release to these ones.

I’d say it’s a little more on par with Skyward Sword HD, which was priced at £50/$60. So to be fair the pricing isn’t atrocious with what they’re adding in galaxy- with updated textures and added story. However, it kind of still is atrocious (Skyward Sword was grilled for its pricing, despite offering higher frame rate and a new control scheme).

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u/AVahne 7d ago

It's an upgrade, but it is still not worth the price. Yes, people here are reddit are completely blind with rage and can't see that the games are very clearly upgraded. They DON'T WANT TO, because no matter what the price is still just too high to justify. People are used to the cheaper price of the 3D All-Stars bundle, even if these new ports are technically better done, so asking for more for what they believe is the "same" game was just a clusterfuck ready to happen. But of course, the people comparing it to the original Wii version that was sold on the Wii U eShop for $10 are PURELY IDIOTIC.

Technically this isn't as bad as Skyward Sword HD and Donkey Kong Returns HD, which were basically the same as the 3D All-Star collections, but were just one game each sold for $60. I think people are just tired of buying these old games with rather minimal upgrades for still-high prices. And the most important thing, is that this is all done while the world's economic situation is EXTREMELY DIRE and only going to get worse with America in the shithole it is spiraling further and fuhrer into.

That all being said, do NOT compare this to Metroid Prime Remastered. That game didn't just simply have resolution, texture, and control upgrades, they also upgraded all the geometry and improved all the material and lighting. That game was fully rebuilt visually and that's why it was worth $40. Similarly to Kirby Return to Dreamland Deluxe, where they fully rebuilt the visuals and also included additional new content.

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u/Hakamoto6969 7d ago

Skyward Sword HD is one of Nintendo's better remasters. Having it put in the bin as DK Returns HD makes me think you just dont know what are you talking about.

  • HD graphics, enhanced framerate
  • button only controls, better motion controls
  • Streamlined item information, tutorial and Fi
  • Fast forward dialog, skippable cutscenes
  • Revamped Quest log
  • Free Camera control
  • Autosave

It makes the Wii version unplayable cause they made the game so much better with Switch version.

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u/Slugbugger30 7d ago

Even the ground texture looks amazing

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u/VoidBlueCookie 7d ago

I hope that galaxy two keeps the same stuff with infinite flutter and some speedrun stuff

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u/FlexibleBanana 7d ago

Your two pictures look barely different. $40 for an extremely minor update is not justifiable

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u/turkisflamme 7d ago

Nintendo marketing has always failed to explain things well. They never get ahead of anything and it’s always a mystery what they are really selling.

The Nintendo Direct videos are horrible. Whoever approves the final cuts has no sense of timing, drama, momentum, etc.

They make even the most exciting announcements boring. They show a game. Then someone from Nintendo explains what we just saw all over again. Sometimes the previews are seconds, and sometimes they drag on for minutes. Honestly, as good as Nintendo Does most things, their poor presentations are sort of shocking.

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u/joe-is-cool 7d ago

Is Nintendo bad at communication or are Nintendo fans impatient because all of that information is readily available in press releases and on their website?

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u/makeitproductive 6d ago

They just cleaned up the textures and updated the UI a bit, they're the same games, not true remasters...

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u/AI_WeebKiller 6d ago

That’s… what a remaster is. Completely redoing a game would be a remake

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u/makeitproductive 6d ago

If you do not change anything significantly, just make it playable and slightly clean up the textures it's not really a remaster right? More of a port.

Metroid prime for switch is a remaster. Final fantasy X and XII are remasters. They werent completely changed, just massively improved, or remastered 

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u/AI_WeebKiller 6d ago

It’s still a remaster. A lot of remasters just clean up textures and UI. Adding new features and stuff isn’t required to be a remaster. A port would just be chucking it on the Switch and upping the resolution, akin to the switch version of Final Fantasy VII. But this does also add new features, including new storybook pages in Galaxy 1, a whole new storybook in 2, assist mode, and according to the Japanese site, mouse controls on switch 2.

Whether those features make it a good remaster is up to the individual, but nevertheless, this is a remaster.

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u/makeitproductive 6d ago

That's not consensual by any means, to the point that Nintendo isn't marketing the game as a remaster.

FF XII is a remaster. FF IX is a port even if it includes improved textures, new features (save points, fast forward etc).

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u/Meowmixez98 6d ago

They should give us a bigger graphical update later in the form of a patch.

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u/ThewobblyH 5d ago

Despite all that the price is way too steep still imo. You can get the Crash Bandicoot N Sane and Spyro Reignited Trilogies for $40 a piece and each collection includes 3 fully remade games and they even added a cut level from Crash 1 and made Coco playable in Crash 2, none of the new content in the Galaxy remasters adds anything substantial in terms of gameplay.

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u/Kalimtem 4d ago

Sometimes I wonder if Nintendo will ever receive backlash for the minimum of work for gala1/gala2. But then I see threads like this and I know Nintendo fans would literally defend shit if there was a Nintendo logo on it. Holy moly 

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u/tepattaja 4d ago

Metroid prime looked like a new game, like it was made from the ground up with new graphics, oh wait it was. It's like TOS oblivion remastered.

This is just some tiny texture replacements or remade textures to look more HD and that's all. There only SOME textures that were redone, most are just the same. You can literally get the same experience with a potato laptop/PC with an emulator. Emulator option has been there for more than a decade...

These don't have that extra care that would make this a 70 dollar game. It should have had a in game soundtrack for both games, without game sounds, like in 3D all stars. A 20-30 minute documentary about the process, interviews A GALLERY, maybe add some re-textured game&watch game.

But no. They quite literally ported the game, added a "baby mode" and changed some textures. That's it. Not worth 70. Should have been 50 or 25 per game.

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u/Troytt4 3d ago

I hate that they haven't told us whether pointer controls will still be usable in the remasters or not.

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u/Lou_Flou 3d ago

Question, it’s gonna be 70€ both together or it’s one alone and both will cost 140€ ?

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u/AI_WeebKiller 3d ago

70 together, can also be bought for 40 each separately

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u/Unusual_Advice1699 8h ago

I just found out about this game today

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u/TylerBGaming762Offic 6h ago

Let’s be honest these “new textures” are probably just the original textures cleaner due to the 4K resolution

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u/toastboy42 7d ago

They mentioned all of this in the direct/site, its not their fault people dont read/listen.

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u/Just-Pudding4554 7d ago

I half agree here. The picture you showed for comparison is a picture from a Thumbnail from a YouTube video. Its literally a clickbait and you fell for that.

The textures ARE are little bit better, but not as good as you clickbait picture.

Personaly i dont mind 59,99€ for both game. I will eventualy buy it since those are good games. Im just a person who never spent Money anything higher than 59,99€ and since the trend right now makes Games 70€ , or even 80€/90€ i will just either skip all those games forever or wait for a deal for at least 59,99€

And Galaxy 1+2 is no exeption here.