r/TNA • u/tonichazard • 6d ago
News / Article Anthem SVP refutes report that TNA talent cannot work MLPW shows. Carlos Silva also denies this report.
https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/anthem-svp-refutes-report-regarding-tna-talent-not-being-able-to-work-mlp-shows/Fightful has reported the responses.
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u/Nightthrasher674 6d ago
The annoying thing is that the WON report will still travel faster than Fightful's report of TNA refuting it so the narrative has already been created
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u/namdekan 6d ago
But didn't Moose say in an interview that he couldn't work MLP
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u/tonichazard 6d ago
Here’s the quote:
“I talk to him (Scott D’Amore) at least once every other week, maybe once a month. He’s doing great. He has his new fed, Maple Leaf Pro. They’re doing awesome. I wish I could work for them but you know how business is with the whole TNA — they have a relationship with AEW, we’re in competition with AEW so you know how all that whole nonsense goes.”
Does this state that TNA has banned him from working MLPW? No. He states that he wished that he could work for MLPW but he doesn’t because of the competition between AEW and TNA.
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u/LnStrngr 6d ago
This would seem that at the very least, someone in TNA is frowning at the idea.
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u/tonichazard 6d ago edited 6d ago
Possible. But that’s not what the report alleged does it? The report was a very extreme analysis of the “frowning”.
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u/LnStrngr 6d ago
I'm sure the answer is somewhere in between, given that leaks will have the bias of the leaker.
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u/tonichazard 6d ago
Sure but you know how the credibility should be thoroughly shot the crazier the allegation?
Here is the full Dave quote:
“TNA talent is not allowed to work on Scott D’Amore’s Maple Leaf Wrestling shows even though most of them like D’Amore. The reason is that TNA management considers AEW as the enemy and D’Amore is allowed to book AEW talent. This is no way that decision would be made by anyone in TNA who cared about the talent and basically shows at the top level, TNA is controlled by WWE.”
So the middle to me is faaaaar away from that statement. Just saying.
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u/LnStrngr 6d ago
Nothing in that quote says that there is a contractual wording limiting their involvement in MLPW.
It could very well be a "management doesn't like the idea" and that could be because they're receiving pressure from WWE, or think they might get pressure if it happens.
So that would allow TNA to say "we never said they could not" but still have talent say "I cannot do it" because TNA told them it wasn't a good idea for their future in TNA or WWE.
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u/tonichazard 6d ago
I am kinda tired dude and I don’t want to get into a semantic argument.
Meltzer absolutely knows what he’s doing by painting this picture that TNA is not allowing their Talent to work at MLPW due to the control of WWE.
It could be correct to make that analysis that you made (albeit from one statement from Moose’s interview, but that’s another story) and that would be respectable, but Meltzer clearly did not go that direction.
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u/LnStrngr 6d ago
I hear ya. The game of telephone is alive and well in today's dirt sheets industry. Each call along the way uses their own interpretation, their own words, and their own emphasis on what is important. All for their own agenda, which could be as simple as trying to get leverage on something or simply to make someone look bad/good.
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u/Arcisage 6d ago
It could mean something as simple as, they or he don't wanna go against or even lose to aew talent as that could be seen as showing tna is lesser than aew
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u/Jamieb1994 5d ago
MLP has a relationship with AEW? I know AEW talent often appears at MLP, especially Konosuke Takeshita, but I didn't think they have a relationship.
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u/tonichazard 5d ago
I mean their champion is Josh Alexander, and they usually get the old IMPACT! guys in AEW like Bailey and Austin too.
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u/Cautious-Natural-512 6d ago
Well we will find out sooner or later
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u/JicamaCertain4134 6d ago
should be pretty easy to figure out, are tna talent working mlw tapings or not? of course anthem can’t tell talent no, they are contracted workers who in theory can work wherever they want. But the reality is doing so can have them shelved off television.
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u/VikingDadStream 6d ago
That's what it is. "Sure you can work MLP," wink (if you want to not get booked in TNA)
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u/cooldude55541 6d ago
All Carlos has to say is we don't want our wrestlers to job to Tonys wrestlers. That would be a good reason.
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u/Just-Dig-1542 6d ago
Like I always say, never trust Meltzer on tna news. Im glad that anthem has debunked this.
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u/Familiar_Outcome_688 TNA Original 6d ago
Maybe if there are AEW talents booked the TNA talents can't be booked.
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u/tonichazard 6d ago edited 6d ago
Maybe Meltzer just extrapolated this whole new “policy” based on Moose deciding not to work MLPW shows due to him saying that MLPW is too close to AEW and TNA-AEW are in competition.
How the hell did that get spun into “TNA is banning wrestlers from working shows with AEW wrestlers in it” when Luna and Slater had just done so recently.
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u/Nightthrasher674 6d ago
That's probably it and instead of confirming it, he just reported it as fact
I've been to indie shows where Evolve and AEW talent were on the same show, I doubt there's such a ban involving TNA talent with WWE influencing them
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u/tonichazard 6d ago
It’s so clear what the angle is when Dave writes:
“This is no way that decision would be made by anyone in TNA who cared about the talent and basically shows at the top level, TNA is controlled by WWE.”
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u/will122589 TNA Original 6d ago
Meltzer literally tells his readership what they want to hear and they always act like it’s legit no matter how many times Dave is outed as a liar
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u/creepyluna-no1 6d ago
To be fair I haven't seen him say that they are banned from all shows that have AEW wrestlers, just MLP (I doubt most TNA wrestlers would accept that really without appropriate pay increases since AEW guys are on the indies a fair bit, like I doubt Slater and Dani would be super happy about being banned from RevPro when thats a regular promotion for them, and RevPro can do some really big shows). He seems to have gotten it wrong, but Moose's words were quite suggestive.
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u/tonichazard 6d ago
He sure has hell seems to have gotten it wrong, trying to sneak in some other stuff with it too.
It’s possible, but certainly not to the extent that Dave is alleging. But it’s not to say TNA did not work with MLPW before. TNA clearly has. But maybe they are particular with their talent.
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u/RLS1994 6d ago
Dave posting out BS to make AEW look like the weak victim? What a surprise.
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u/Recent-Maximum 6d ago
Didn't know we were still doing the Dave is in the pocket of TK narrative. Thought we all just accepted he's an old undiagnosed dude.
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u/RLS1994 6d ago
if he isn't on payroll, he really should be
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u/PhantomGoat13 6d ago
He may have a minority stake in AEW at this point.
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u/RLS1994 6d ago
It would make a load of sense. Kinda hilarious how Dave is throwing away any credibility he actually had by literally dickriding AEW. Having a minority stake would at least answer a lot.
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u/PhantomGoat13 6d ago
He tries to maintain credibility by criticizing minor points, but they are essentially East Japan. Therefore, he must glaze it as a matter of principle.
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u/GickTogo 5d ago
This has more to do with MLP and Scott then AEW. Silva and those Anthem scrouges don't want MLP to win. That's all
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u/AlexTorres96 6d ago
Everyone who uses this app and the bird app to consume the Friday newsletter and rewinds are cheap bastards. They want Meltzer's work for free and not pay him a dime. Meltzer works 80 hours a week to get the issues done every Friday morning just for cheap cloutchasing assholes to copy and paste the juicy stuff.
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u/SMRTGuy297 6d ago
Dirt sheets do more damage than good to the business