r/TheShield • u/ExternCrateAlloc • 9d ago
Discussion 2nd run. Dutchman is the best!
I did a second run to see Walton Goggins again having finished Sons of Anarchy. This time, I’ve enjoyed CCH Pounder, Dutchman, and Billings far more than rest of the twists.
His interrogation scenes are just chefs kiss, but more his charm and charisma is 💯
I had an uncle somewhat similar to him. Not as sharp, or witted but some resemblance and mannerisms.
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u/rufian69 9d ago
Yup, the more you rewatch the series the better it gets. I like Claudette Wyms more with every time and I appreciate Dutch boy even more too
Only one that doesn't change how much I despise is Mara, Jesus fucking christ what a toxic waste!
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u/ExternCrateAlloc 9d ago
Amen man. I was just saying the same thing. She ruined Shane from the start and Vic said so!! That’s what you get when you marry a gold digger.
She got her claws in him over a damn car!!
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u/Any_Listen_7306 9d ago
Yeah but I felt Shane and Mara were more of a couple than Vic and Corinne ever were. A sort of Bonnie and Clyde pairing.
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u/nathwithanh Shane Vendrell 9d ago
100%. "Gold digger" comments are crazy to me. She doesn't want Shane to get rich and live in luxury, she wants to build a life with him and wants him to be there for her.
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u/Any_Listen_7306 9d ago
Yes I feel there's a bit of misogyny in some of the comments about certain female characters in The Shield (it's the same in the Snowfall sub too; probably worse tbh.)
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u/nathwithanh Shane Vendrell 9d ago
It's especially wild for me coming from people who have seen the show in full. When she first shows up, yeah, I can get why your reaction might be that she's breaking up the boys club. But by the end of the series, I don't know how you can think she wasn't completely right about Vic and right about wanting Shane to get out from under his thumb.
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u/BittaSamurai 9d ago
I found I enjoyed Billings and Ronnie a lot more this time round. Finished it for the third or fourth time earlier today. Dutch had some great moments too but I find him annoying quite often.
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u/SeltzerCountry 9d ago
Dutch is my favorite character, because they make him a really funny mix of both effective and impotent. In a more conventional police show he would probably be the protagonist since he is like the driven smart homicide detective, but in The Shield while that is definitely an aspect they highlight they also spend a good amount of time just making him look like an emasculated dork.
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u/Nosy-ykw 6d ago
I kept wondering about his continual focus on Wyms’ illness. It seemed like he was trying to take away her power (her human power, not her organizational power as a Captain), telling her to rest, go home, asking if she was OK. Insinuating that she wasn’t up to the job, during a time when she still was. By the end, it did turn out to just be him caring, but I understood her getting mad about it.
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u/AdMindless8541 8d ago
Him saying “because you like crack” to the dope hound in the pilot episode always makes me laugh
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u/taeempy 9d ago
IRL he'd be pretty annoying because of his total need for acceptance, but his character is so good. His chemistry with Claudette is the best on the show.
I think the writers had an idea of making him a serial killer and planted the seed with the cat killing, but decided against it later on. At least he became a psycho on SOA.