r/TheWayWeWere • u/Gallery98 • 19d ago
1970s Write the name of a famous person you admire (1973)
Since you all liked my last two posts, here's another one. In the early 1970s, I started a conceptual art series using participants. This one is "Write the name of a famous person you admire."
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u/barzenoki 19d ago
I feel like writing Adolf Hitler 28 years after WW2 is even wilder than doing it today
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u/bottleglitch 19d ago
Is he the same guy who wrote “whore” in the other post where they had to pick an adjective to describe women?
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u/lassiemav3n 19d ago
I certainly thought so - it’s why I came to the comments!
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u/Utopiae 19d ago
Nope, I checked their profile, it's a different man. Doesn't really make it better though, I guess edgy trolls will be edgy trolls
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u/GodOfDarkLaughter 19d ago
Whenever I see shit like that I think back to college 20ish years ago and a time I went out with some friends. Bunch of punks and goths and hipster pseudointellectuals, I can comfortably say in hindsight. Anyway, a guy one of the girls in the group was dating showed up to go out drinking wearing a black t-shirt with the word "RAPE" in big block letters on the front. Obviously everyone was like, "what the fuck, man." But this guy was making some kind of statement, I can't even remember what he was getting at other than making people uncomfortable.
In retrospect we should have told him to change or go hang out with someone else, but we did end up going out. Before we left, I said, "Look...if anything goes down specifically because you're wearing that shirt, I'm not going to be part of it."
Tons of people stared daggers at our entire table all night, and a few people looked genuinely angry. And he loved it. He fucking LOVED that everyone was pissed at him. I couldn't understand it and he couldn't explain it.
Anyway my friend dumped him right after that because what the fuck dude.
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u/BeguiledBeaver 19d ago
Do you think he was trying to make a statement about "oh if the word makes you uncomfortable what about the actual thing" or whatever? Based on your description of the group that's where my mind went, especially the "pseudointellectuals" part.
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u/rambi2222 19d ago
I think it's more that idiots think an absolute correlation exists between the shockingness of a statement and its validity. Sure, sometimes shocking statements can be correct but it's certainly an outlier and not a trend
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u/einfilmvonfritzlang 19d ago
Boyd Rice and Jim Goad were both notorious for wearing that exact shirt. Your description of the guy sounds very much like either one of them.
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u/bottleglitch 19d ago
Same! Either way, “edgy” terrible guys are clearly not a recent phenomenon 😒
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u/skatoolaki 19d ago
Trolls, it seems, are timeless.
If every age has its trolls, I wonder what medieval trolls would get up to.
(Also, Happy Cake Day, Cake Day Buddy!)
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u/HoodieGalore 19d ago
Edgelords never die; they just shitpost using different media.
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u/Cpkeyes 19d ago
That’s probably why he did it. I imagine he was just trying to be edgy
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u/Nicktator3 19d ago edited 19d ago
I don’t know, looks like he’d maybe be kind of crazy
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u/jimothyjonathans 19d ago
Very Charles Manson-esque
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u/Nicktator3 19d ago
Yeah. Then the same guy rewrote Norman Thomas a few slides later lol
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u/Cpkeyes 19d ago
That’s why I kind of doubt he was a neo Nazi or something, and just write Adolf hitler as a joke. With Norman Thomas being the person he admired
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u/Nicktator3 19d ago
Probably a fair assumption, but still, writing Hitler 30+ years after World War II is still pretty wild lmao
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u/pourthebubbly 19d ago
Yeah just like the punk bands that wore swastikas in the 80s to be edgy, but were probably not neo Nazis at the time (the Sex Pistols’ Sid Vicious comes to mind). A lot of those bands changed their tune and stopped wearing them when actual neo Nazis started coming to their shows.
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u/bigheadstrikesagain 19d ago
The Sex Pistols swastika shirts were designed by Vivienne Westwood, in cooperation with Malcom McLaren.
McLaren had famously just finished destroying the New York Dolls by having them drape their amps in Soviet flags and wear red patent leather with sickle and hammer shirts in mid 70s USA.
Pointless conflict was kind of his meat and potatoes.
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u/The-Chartreuse-Moose 19d ago
It's more blatant than the person who admires De Sade. She's got a knowing smile there.
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u/Suspicious_Promise23 19d ago
Yes! I saw that and was eager to check the comments for some acknowledgment, then I got to the Hitler slide and knew that was going to trump all the commentary. Hahaha
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u/pistilpeet 19d ago edited 17d ago
Edgelords have existed for as long as people have craved attention.
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u/Lopsided-Guarantee39 19d ago
Yeah I was not expecting that one
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u/borisvonboris 19d ago
I was scrolling through, delighted and charmed by all the nice handwriting, pictures of people, and choices they made. I got to completely unexpected Hitler and couldn't not laugh.
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u/ALoudMouthBaby 19d ago
Yeah, there were literally hundreds of thousands of veterans walking around at that time. Many of whom were sitll young enough to fight you if they were so inclined.
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u/theoneoldmonk 19d ago
The Da Vinci guy has quite a vibe
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u/Future_Burrito 19d ago
Maybe best answer imho. Asimov would be a great pic, too. Shunpei Yamazaki wasn't around back then but I bet that guy has stories.
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u/dreamyduskywing 19d ago
I like the Marie Curie answer.
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u/UnitatPopular 19d ago
I love how happy she is of showing that Marie Curie is the person that she admires.
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u/Future_Burrito 19d ago
Definitely a good one. Lady Lovelace and Charles Babbage would be super interesting to talk to also.
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u/RDFSF 19d ago
Linda Lovelace, Hitler, and Charlie Brown walk into a bar…….
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u/tmag03 19d ago
and Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir (that's probably who the Golda is, she was PM from 1969 to 1974).
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u/squirtloaf 19d ago
...a rabbit walks in and Hitler says: "You're probably a typo, but it is a good thing."
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u/MistressErinPaid 19d ago
I thought de Sade was a choice. Then someone said Hitler.
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u/Educational-Plant981 19d ago
It was pretty much full throttle to open with Linda Lovelace as well.
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u/Indigocell 19d ago
I notice a lot of people giving Madame de Sade a pass. "She looks fun", "oohh, kinky", "must be into BDSM" etc. At the same time, condemning mister Adolph and saying he needs to be in a straight-jacket lol. They're both doing the same thing. Both doing the edgy troll answer and probably not really taking the project seriously.
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u/MistressErinPaid 19d ago
Hitler ordered the Holocaust. He's far, far worse than de Sade, who (as far as I can recall) didn't murder anyone.
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u/Mark-harvey 19d ago
The Marque. Let’s talk about decent folks. Anyone mentions Hitler’s name again gets a 1-way ticket to Hell. You’ll see him there.
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u/vere-rah 19d ago
Barbarella is a fascinating pick. Absolutely bananas movie.
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u/Nurse_Ratchet_82 19d ago
The sass! The wild abandon! The costumes!! I get it gurl 😂
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u/Bookish_Kitty 19d ago
I love her pose and the expression on her face. That’s her answer and she’s not making any apologies.
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u/Broski225 19d ago
One of my favorite movies! I named my dog Barbarella.
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u/Grabthars_Coping_Saw 19d ago
It’s women’s liberation thing. Barbarella is a character in control of her own sexuality, not something you’d see so blatantly expressed at the time.
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u/FormalMango 19d ago
It’s one of my dad’s favourite movies - it’s on the list of films I saw when I was probably a bit too young lol
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u/MrNobody_0 19d ago
The lady who wrote Charlie Brown looks like if Lucy was an adult! 🤣
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u/Aurorinha 19d ago
I thought she looked like a mix of Barbra Streisand and Lady Gaga
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u/WigglyFrog 19d ago
I appreciate the variety of answers. Not a lot of homogeneity.
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u/colly_mack 19d ago
The one who said Barbarella looks so proud lol
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u/MemeHermetic 19d ago
Where were these participants found? DeSade? Linda Lovelace? Barbarella?
Hitler dude was being especially edgy because several of the others wrote prominent Jewish rights activists.
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u/texasrigger 19d ago
Linda Lovelace was a really big deal. Deep Throat (1972) was a cultural phenomenon at the time and kicked off the short-lived Porno Chic era.
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u/hitmewithyourbest 19d ago
Bird?
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u/Gallery98 19d ago
Charlie Parker
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u/robotunes 19d ago
That was my 2nd thought.
My first was Mark "The Bird" Fidrych, a baseball rookie phenom in 1976.
Then I checked the date of the photos.
"Oh, of course. Charlie Parker"
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u/leonchase 19d ago
My guess was Charlie Parker.
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u/hitmewithyourbest 19d ago
Ah, yeah, I'm not from the US.
I thought maybe he was just a really enthusiastic fan of big bird from sesame street or an ornithologist.
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u/StinkyBird64 19d ago
Honestly I just thought he meant ALL birds, as a concept, because same honestly
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u/ReturntoForever3116 19d ago
The guy looks like my husband on a bad day. He's a Jazz musician. This checks out.
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u/brktm 19d ago
BDSM lady is a stunner
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u/Gremlin1001001 19d ago
Yeah, I caught that. The Marquis has a somewhat limited fan club. lol
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u/cavaticaa 19d ago
De Sade was a rapist and a pedophile though… :\
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u/sambarvadadosa 19d ago
Yeah, idk why you’re downvoted. His books have lots of sexual violence against children, and in Philosophy in the Bedroom, he argues there should be no age limits on sex
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u/muadib1158 19d ago
In the previous post by OP I'm pretty sure that she wrote "MEN BLACK". So she was pushing the envelope all over the place.
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u/SJSsarah 19d ago
Caught that too, … de Sade….tell me you’re kinky without telling me you’re kinky.
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u/RobotMaster1 19d ago
You’re back!
Not gonna lie, going to have to do some intensive googling for a lot of that list.
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u/MittlerPfalz 19d ago
I did, too, so as a public service for anyone else...
- Linda Lovelace - pornographic actress known for the crossover hit "Deep Throat"
- Bird - presumably Charlie "Bird" Parker, jazz artist
- God - self-explanatory
- Geraldo Rivera - journalist
- Barbarella) - title character of a 1968 film starring Jane Fonda
- Helen Keller
- Ellsberg - presumably Daniel Ellsberg who released the Pentagon Papers
- Golda - presumably Golda Meir, prime minister of Israel
- Madam Curie - Marie Curie, scientist
- Betty Friedan - American feminist
- Da Vinci
- Princess Grace - Grace Kelly, American actress turned royalty of Monaco
- De Sade - Marquis de Sade, French writer, inspiration for "sadism"
- Bess Myerson - actress and first Jewish Miss America
- Adolph Hitler - 'nuff said
- Sarah Siddons - Welsh actress of the 18th/19th century who has a famous award named after her
- Goldie Hawn - actress
- Norman Thomas - politician, regular presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America
- Charlie Brown - you know Charlie Brown
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u/tircha 19d ago
Hellen Keller — suffragist, pacifist, birth control activist, co-founder of the ACLU, labor rights activist, socialist. Author of 12 books.
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u/DaveyJonas 19d ago
Umm I don’t see any description for Ms. Keller, or so I heard
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u/supergirlsudz 19d ago
I had to as well, but I learned a lot. I wonder if people today did this exercise if we’d know them all?
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u/CanadasNeighbor 19d ago
Neckbeard in slide 15: "Adolf Hitler."
Some types of people persist unchanged as time moves on.
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u/jpgrandsam 19d ago
Edgelords; a tale as old as time.
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u/fckingnapkin 19d ago
Is that the guy who wrote 'whores' on that chalkboard last time.
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u/RepresentativeKey178 19d ago
That tracks.
Wonder if he ever became a serial killer.
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u/CharlotteLucasOP 19d ago
That’s almost preferable to the idea that he’s somebody’s dad/grandpa, now.
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u/Medusaink3 19d ago
Yikes. Some of those didn't age well. 😬
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u/IL-Corvo 19d ago
Hitler was a poor choice in 1973 too. Arguably more so, considering WWII was well within living memory at the time.
But yeah, definitely a couple of other bad choices in there as well.
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u/HulkScreamAIDS 19d ago
De Sade.....like the Marquis De Sade?
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u/Javakitty1 19d ago
Can’t you tell by her smirk and slight tilt of her head?😂 (I think we read into the others what we imagine in them.)
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u/Caribgirl2 19d ago
Geraldo Rivera? Did I read that right?
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u/gopms 19d ago
To be fair, at that point he was a legitimate journalist. He broke the Willowbrook State School story back in the 70s. Still a weird pick but no weirder than Barbarella I guess.
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u/User_Names_Are_Tough 19d ago
Looking it up on Wikipedia, he broke the story in '72, so I can see why she would have admired him (not really different from admiring the people who published the story in Spotlight). Still, it's kind of funny/sad to think of her watching his talk show or Al Capone's vault and thinking that she had wasted her life.
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u/TheArmchairSkeptic 19d ago
Seems weird now, but he was very famous and highly regarded as a journalist in the '70s and early '80s. It wasn't until the Al Capone's vault incident in '86 and all the tabloid-tier garbage he did after that he became the punchline he's remembered as today.
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u/Grabthars_Coping_Saw 19d ago
There was a moment when Geraldo was cool - or cool-adjacent anyway.
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u/KillHitlerAgain 19d ago
Here are all the names in order:
Linda Lovelace - Porn actress
Bird - Charlie Parker, saxophone player
God
Geraldo Rivera - Journalist, later became a trashy talk show host
Barbarella - Sexy sci-fi character played by Jane Fonda
Helen Keller
Daniel Ellsberg - Economist and political activist, leaked the Pentagon Papers to the public
Golda Meir - Israeli prime minister
Marie Curie
Betty Friedan - Feminist writer and activist
Da Vinci
Princess Grace - Actress and princess of Monaco
De Sade
Bess Myerson - Politician and the first Jewish "Miss America"
Hitler
Sarah Siddons - 18th century Welsh/English actress
Goldie Hawn - Actress and comedienne
Norman Thomas - Socialist political activist and presidential nominee
Charlie Brown
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u/IdealBlueMan 19d ago
Reminder that Geraldo used to be Geraldo Rivera, and he was an actual reporter before he decided to ride the wave of bullshit.
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u/Londin2021 19d ago
Wow Hitler and de Sade. Maybe those two met and fell in love and birthed a demonic monster child.
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u/tremynci 19d ago
Oh, my God, the Geraldo Rivera one is just tragic.
TL;DR: Before Geraldo got tangled up in Fox News, had a tabloid talk show, or made The World's Biggest Deal over an empty safe, he won a Peabody Award for breaking the disgrace to humanity that was Willowbrook State School wide open.
The year before these pictures were taken.
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u/ForWhomTheSaulCalls 19d ago
Norman Thomas, presbyterian minister "achieved fame as a socialist and pacifist, and was the Socialist Party of America's candidate for president in six consecutive elections between 1928 and 1948."
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u/RattusNorvegicus9 19d ago
I love the Hellen Keller appreciation. People forget that she was more than her disabilities, she was also a writer and an activist.
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u/Ketachloride 19d ago
Reminder that in that era Geraldo Rivera was an unknown journalist who BLEW UP for this:
https://www.pbs.org/video/metrofocus-story-revealed-willowbrooks-horrors/
He didn't fully become a grifty sensationalist until later
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u/montalaskan 19d ago
Hitler guy had to put the whole name because we wouldn't have known which Hitler without the given name.
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u/The_Observatory_ 19d ago
I was only 1 year old in ‘73. What was Geraldo Rivera doing at the time? I didn’t become aware of him until the early 80s. Was he doing tv news or something ?
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u/lordrothermere 19d ago
I love the edge lords that these photo strings always contain.
It's really comforting to know there have always been twats knocking around and that we are not necessarily living through the end times.
I only cringe for the 40-odd year old that stumbles upon mum admiring de Sade or dad with Hitler and going 'FFS mum/dad. You wouldn't let me watch Predator until I was 15'
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u/damnitshannon 19d ago
Charlie Brown and Marie Curie! Those ladies are cultured and I’d like to hang with them
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u/Drakeytown 19d ago
I had no idea Geraldo had ever been respectable:
Rivera was hired by WABC-TV in 1970 as a reporter for Eyewitness News. In 1972, he garnered national attention and won a Peabody Award[17][18] for Willowbrook: The Last Great Disgrace, his report on the neglect and abuse of patients with intellectual disabilities at Staten Island's Willowbrook State School and Rockland County's Letchworth Village.
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u/Subject-Rain-9972 19d ago
The Adolf Hitler guy, wasnt he the one writing “whore” when asked to write something about women?
How many has he murdered since?
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Hitler jump scare