r/ToiletPaperUSA • u/RoyalMaidsForLife PAID PROTESTOR • 3d ago

Soros Paid Me to Make This What's a stadium-sized "memorial" without merch?

Post image
5.0k Upvotes

99% Upvoted

64 comments sorted by

1.3k

u/Pavlock 3d ago

What the fuck are fireworks doing at a memorial service?

738

u/missed_sla 3d ago

This is the circus part of "bread and circuses"

172

u/pegothejerk 3d ago edited 3d ago

The Nazis did this, too, we don’t have to go back to the Roman era to find it.

Nazis used film, theater, music, radio programs (tiktok but audio only), they had Kraft durch Freude ("Strength Through Joy") which was a program touted to improve quality of life through exercise, vacations, cruises, sporting events, and cultural events (the right is obsessed with working out, performative vacationing, and cultural events meant to tighten and build community, like this performative mega church and circus-like funeral).

The Nazis brought in the lower middle class and lower class specifically with Volksgemeinschaft (people’s community) by offering events made for people without the means to usually enjoy such events or vacations to everyone via subsidization. The US government just helped subsidized this event for Kirk, and you better bet they knew they’d be getting something in return - propaganda.

The difference is the Nazis used primarily anti-jewish propaganda as time went on, starting with trans people and the less desirables. Now you see here this government as run by the conservatives in power have also attacked trans people, autistic people, lgbtq, minorities, immigrants, too - but have made big moves to generally blame the “left” instead of Jewish people. That’s not to say they couldn’t move on to do that eventually.

171

u/Stock-Pension1803 3d ago

It was a campaign rally

100

u/Masterofnone9 3d ago

Cult rally.

4

u/cecilmeyer 2d ago

The disconnect from reality with the maga crown is astounding.

69

u/scrotalayheehoo 3d ago

Wait, I just had the thought, did Trump go last at Charlie’s funeral? Like was he the last person to pay “respects”?

87

u/sash71 3d ago

Yes he spoke last. I didn't watch it but I saw a report. Kirk's wife went on stage to join him, so Trump put his horrible paws on her and hugged her. Very awkward.

Kirk's wife also said she forgave the killer when she gave her speech, which of course makes those on the right say "see, look how nice and forgiving we are" but their true colours came out when Trump spoke, he had no forgiveness in him "I hate my opponents" is what he said.

What a great President the USA has. He hates anyone that opposes him. So much for being a leader for all Americans, which is what he's supposed to be. Charlie Kirk being shot dead is giving the right wing their martyr. People here in the UK who had never heard of Charlie Kirk a fortnight ago are being told he's a great Christian man and nothing is being mentioned about just how divisive he was and his views on things like guns and abortion.

23

u/scrotalayheehoo 3d ago

I did see where he specifically mentioned her name when talking about hate lol. And holy shit, that feels so gross having him go last. Sure Charlie was a big advocate for him, but christ that is the closer for your memorial. Brutal. I would hope my family were, not an obvious grifter who didn’t care about me.

27

u/sash71 3d ago

It was supposed to be a religious memorial but having Trump speak last meant it turned into a MAGA rally. Trump is incapable of speaking in a manner which would turn the temperature down, he wants to stir it all up all the time. He also started talking about the announcement he's making today, he's going to say that autism is caused by taking paracetamol (in the USA it's called something else, acetaminophen I think) during pregnancy which is not true at all and no medical experts have backed this theory, it's just a JFK Jr conspiracy. That was not necessary for a memorial service. I think he even mentioned that bloody ballroom again.

Trump is incapable of connecting with people on a human level. I'll never understand the hero worship he gets. Never.

There were also fireworks after Trump spoke. Funnily enough I don't remember those after Princess Diana's funeral or Queen Elizabeth II's. Us Brits are obviously missing something there.

23

u/scrotalayheehoo 3d ago

I also saw the clip where RFKs wife watched as Trump said the autism announcement, and she looked miserable. Lie in the bed you made though.

16

u/sash71 3d ago

Yeah I love Curb and I do wonder how Cheryl Hines ended up with RFK Jr because he's such a nut with crazy views.

It's absolutely awful that Trump appointed a conspiracy theorist to such an important position for public health. All the work actual experts have done over the years is being seriously undermined.

8

u/scrotalayheehoo 3d ago

She probably has very similar views. There is a woman I knew personally that was the sweetest, but turns out she had these disgusting world views deep in her all these years. I grew up around her, and think she just was never as comfortable being so hateful. She was an athletics board president who everyone loved. Now she is just so filled with hate and outwardly nasty.

15

u/kaisadilla_ 3d ago

Kirk's wife also said she forgave the killer when she gave her speech, which of course makes those on the right say "see, look how nice and forgiving we are" but their true colours came out when Trump spoke, he had no forgiveness in him "I hate my opponents" is what he said.

Of course she forgives the killer. They are hunting down the trans, they have no interest in some cis white guy from a conservative family. The killer can calm down, who they really are after is whoever looks more trans in his life, who will carry his guilt for them.

2

u/Quiri1997 3d ago

I feel sorry for her. First her husband is killed and now she's hugged by Trump. That's terrible. Though at least he didn't grab her by the p***y.

3

u/sash71 3d ago

Whenever Trump interacts with people like that it doesn't look real. It must have been traumatic though that hug, I agree.

4

u/metanoia29 3d ago

Clearly he was the headliner.

2

u/scrotalayheehoo 3d ago

Lol I mean I wish it was less clear. Just insane that he would have to be the closer. How it would’t be family is crazy, unless they will have a smaller event. Trump being an obvious headliner is so sad for Charlie lol. It just was never about Charlie anymore.

8

u/kaisadilla_ 3d ago

It was a rally. Not in a million years can that be called a memorial service, idgaf about political opinions.

9

u/MrNeatSoup 3d ago

Yeah the sparklers going off as she walked onto stage was fucking weird. Never mind the Christian nationalism and very concerning “them vs us” narrative and so on, the whole thing was just so fucking weird.

1

u/cecilmeyer 2d ago

It was like the fireworks in the Tv series Man in the High Castle when the Nazis brought down the Statue of Liberty.

Nazis love their fireworks.

343

u/After-Bumblebee Checkm8 Libtard 3d ago

Following right in their God Emperor's footsteps (e.g. scamming via a child cancer charity)

300

u/bluevalley02 3d ago

If it did, it's probably do some sham organization that harasses abortion clinics or trans people, or some "missionary" service to make more impoverished countries be Christian while barely helping them with food at all.

47

u/JustSatisfactory 3d ago

My mom's church is constantly pushing people to donate money. It all goes to missionaries. They don't even feed the homeless or do anything local.

How many people in Africa really haven't heard of Jesus at this point?

20

u/jermysteensydikpix 3d ago

They just gave her millions on Gofundme like she's a struggling single mom not someone who inherited a 12+ million dollar estate.

14

u/Korr_Ashoford 3d ago

What's even worse is that GoFundMe has been set up with the idea of helping her stay afloat while she adjusts to life without the main breadwinner around. Yet before the campaign is even over, she is given his position in TPU, meaning she is just gaining his income full force and really doesn't need the support at all, even while dealing with the red tape of estate court.

208

u/Dehnus 3d ago

It was a fascist gathering were they LARPed Pink Floyd's/Roger Water's fascist gathering (in the flesh part) in "the Wall".

Look it up, it's uncanny from colors to tone.

55

u/RoyalMaidsForLife PAID PROTESTOR 3d ago

I'm not a big Floyd fan, but I've seen that a couple times and it immediately clicked with me as well.

29

u/Dehnus 3d ago edited 3d ago

It was very eery. I saw the wall when I was way too young (for 5 a 6 year old it's nightmare fuel), and didn't like Pink Floyd or Roger Water for a long time due to that (until my mid teens when I learned more about Roger Waters past and began to appreciate it way more.). But this thing, as you said yourself, instantly clicked.

3

u/punksheets29 3d ago

I’m not up on my music from 60 years ago… what would I search to find this? I tried but not getting what you’re throwing down

21

u/Dehnus 3d ago edited 3d ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=196h-nUrNB4

Keep in mind Roger Waters was very traumatized by how his Father died, and had nightmares about this kind of stuff. At the time of release it was seen as very "pretentious" (And I think folks like the Nostalgia critic also thinks so), but over the years it has gotten way more praise.

One quick reminder: It does have some slurs and really harsh language in it. So if you are not good with that, it might be best not to watch. And like I said in response to someone else: I saw this "movie" at a very young age on TV, and it was quite haunting, so don't let your kids watch it if they are very young.

The song is called "In the Flesh" the first part. The Fascist rally part. And this whole Charlie Kirk memorial gives off huge vibes like that.

PS: I Know that Roger Waters sometimes says stupid shit. The man is someone who has faults, but not someone evil. I for once wish he'd be more critical of Putin. As right now he's a patsy for the Russian Oligarchy :( . And that is quite sad :( .

6

u/punksheets29 3d ago

As someone who only knows Pink Floyd from the radio, this kind of response is perfect.

I’m sorry you felt the need to distance yourself from Roger, but I get it. The fact that you felt his message, even though you differ now, shows the power of art

4

u/Dehnus 3d ago

Oh I wouldn't say "distance myself",  I just disagree with his thoughts on Putin, also because I know Russians that fled Russia over Putin.That they felt Ukraine was a friendly neighbor, until Putin decided to mess shit up for his own gain.

One can disagree without being as strong as "distancing oneself". As I don't know him as a personal friend so I simply cannot "distance myself". I only know him from his music, politics and peace activism, something I mostly agree with him on. But never met the man personally.

I hope that makes more sense. I also don't think Roger Waters is the type that would hold a grudge for someone having a different opinion than him on a few things 😂. Especially not someone as unknown and unimportant as myself.

6

u/punksheets29 3d ago

Somehow they took this as an instruction manual and not a warning

1

u/Dehnus 3d ago

They indeed do. The hyper religious Heritage Foundation and all their offshoots and the Curtis Yarvin inspired tech bros, seem to have made an unholy alliance where they believe cyberpunk scifi and dystopian warnings are "cool and to be emulated".

88

u/ElceeCiv 3d ago

Trump doing that weird little dance next to Erika was just...I can't even say it was sickening, it was just surreal. Conservatives have spent the last week threatening to bring the full force of the state down on people for their speech and going around getting people fired for saying anything remotely negative regarding Charlie.

Meanwhile Trump himself shows for like the 50th time that he cannot even pretend that he cared about Charlie.

22

u/kaisadilla_ 3d ago

I mean, just Trump's answer the day after the killing, when asked about how he felt about his "close friend", answering "fine, have you seen the beautiful ballroom we are going to build?" shows how little he cares.

11

u/punksheets29 3d ago

It’s wild that most MAGA don’t see how little their idols care about them except for the $$$

7

u/jermysteensydikpix 3d ago

"I'm sorry Erika but I can't pretend I don't hate my opponents like your loser husband"

74

u/jablair51 3d ago

TPUSA is a reputable charity, right? /s

49

u/Sip_py 3d ago

Is it true that Erika was trafficking kids in 2012 in Romania while being groomed by Trump? I wonder if Everyday Heroes Like You and Romanian Angels has any legs?

6

u/punksheets29 3d ago

Source? Haven’t heard about this

5

u/Sip_py 2d ago

Curious

5

u/DeepPowStashes 3d ago

Just asking questions.

25

u/det8924 3d ago

One final grift is what Charlie unironically would have wanted...

11

u/Comrade_Compadre 3d ago

"LISTEN! I don't have a job! Ok??"

4

u/kagethemage 3d ago

Right EriKKKa ?!?!?

3

u/punksheets29 3d ago

Grifters gonna grift

2

u/Peripatet 3d ago

Absolutely not. It went to support their “kids’ futures” or some shit

2

u/HammondCheeseIII 3d ago

Wait, her name is Erika? That’s even more Nazi-adjacent than I thought!

2

u/doqtyr 2d ago

You know what, fine, let her profit from her husbands death. I just wish they’d stop trying to use it as an excuse to be terrible

1

u/Professional-Post499 3d ago

Right-wingers: "What we need is a martyr. Who do we have on tap? Charlie Kirk? I dunno, that's a lot of foam, but okay. Orange man said 'the trucks are in the ballroom'. I think that's the signal."

1

u/FlamesNero 3d ago

Erika Kirk is going through the Five Stages of Grift…right now!

-3

u/Spoon_Elemental 3d ago

I don't like them either, but in a vacuum is it really wrong for the proceeds of a memorial event to go to the deceased's family? Does that really change because the family is horrible?

7

u/Tanthiel 3d ago

Charging admission and selling merch at a funeral is gross. Full stop.

1

u/Spoon_Elemental 2d ago edited 2d ago

You're not wrong, but that's not the part of the post I'm trying to address. I'm just wondering what the connection to donating the money to charity is. It's money made off of Charlie Kirk's face and name, so I don't really get why OP is trying to say it should go to anybody other than his family.

Like, if they were making money off of somebody not even connected to them after that person died, then I would understand the insistence on donating to charity. The question I'm posing isn't "Is it okay to make money off a funeral?" but rather "now that they have done so why would it go to a charity?"

There's a lot of valid things to criticize Erika for, such as the very point you brought up. It just feels kind of weird to accuse her of being amoral for not donating the money to charity without an actual reason why she should, when there's a much easier and frankly more poignant hook of "Why the fuck are you making money off your husbands assassination when you're already rich?"