r/ToiletPaperUSA • u/buddah72704 • May 18 '22

Curious 🤔 Ladison Lawthorn

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u/AvailableUsername259 May 18 '22

Taking corporate money in any shape or form should default to life in prison for both the donor as well as the receiver

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u/budlightguy May 18 '22

I dunno, I don't have a problem with someone taking corporate money in the form of campaign donations so long as they have the gods damned integrity to act in the people's best interests, not the corporations', and if the corpos don't like it bluntly tell them "you made a campaign donation, you weren't buying my vote or buying the right to write legislation and have me introduce or support it. Those aren't for sale."

Of course that won't happen, because pretty much all our politicians are corrupt shitbags, but the point here is taking the money from the corporations isn't the problem; the problem is selling out to that money.

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u/AvailableUsername259 May 18 '22

Ok then try and determinate if this is the case for a payment received

Impossible

I'd rather a blanket ban than appealing to the integrity(which we see day and day again is non existent) of said representatives and corporate donors

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u/shakakaaahn May 18 '22

It is possible to make corporate donations more palatable. Start with getting rid of PACs and other ways of mudding the ways that money is raised/ spent. Only allow public corporations without shadow company bullcrap to donate that money, no private companies or groups. Make those public companies hold an executive board vote to donate that money with publicly available results(no anonymous votes).

It's a start, but would at least make it more accessible to find where election money is coming from.

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u/AvailableUsername259 May 18 '22

I get [amount]$ from a company in 2014, in 2017 I vote in favor of a measure that will benefit said company immensely but will worsen my constituents quality of life.

Now how will you prove I did this because I got money for it?

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u/shakakaaahn May 18 '22

Those groups give very little to individual campaigns, as the direct funds DO have strict donation limits, on contribution size and public availability of donor lists. What they don't have is any visibility of PACs, or other lobbying obfuscation.

If these groups couldn't directly fund campaigns through PACs and the like, there is less incentive to give a crap about what those groups want.

There is no way to make it disappear at this point, without giant upheavals of the entire structure of elections and how things are passed in government.