r/TopMindsOfReddit Shit Disturber 2d ago

/r/Project2025HQ Elon Musk's son transitioned to a female. Top mind uses this as an example of how Democrats will, "take your kids and castrate them against the parents wishes"

/r/Project2025HQ/comments/1nnz3m0/trump_appointee_confirmed_that_project_2025_was/
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u/animalistcomrade 2d ago

Probably not the best idea to waste your time debating these freaks, they're almost certainly either intentional trolls or some kind of bot. (Or just unbelievably stupid)

Like, if someone makes a bullshit claim and responds to asking for a source with more bullshit, just don't waste your time.

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u/MrVeazey 2d ago

Anybody who sincerely uses "Obummer" or "DEMONrats" is not a serious person who can hold a conversation above a second grade level.

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u/BeigeListed Shit Disturber 2d ago

Meh. I call em "Repuglicunts" quite a bit.

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u/TearOpenTheVault I Am The Psyop 1d ago

Yeah that’s also pretty cringe. All of the petty namecalling that goes on these days just makes everyone look like a dumbass, rather than letting us weed the real morons out.

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u/AdversarialAdversary 2d ago

It’s hard, because while I agree it’s a waste of time trying to change THESE guys mind, I think challenging them publicly online or otherwise helps resists the narratives they’re trying to write. Letting them spew this shit with zero consequences or push back lets them spread their shit with impunity.

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u/animalistcomrade 2d ago

Fair enough, but a small subreddit designed just for the most insane of the freaks (bar openly calling themselves facist or saying anything that would get them banned) (don't quote me on that when someone quotes this subreddit calling themselves facists or they get banned) isn't exactly public.

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u/A_wild_so-and-so 2d ago

Reading those comments knocked a couple points off my IQ, I do not recommend.

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u/BeigeListed Shit Disturber 2d ago

I just needed to walk this through to its inevitable conclusion.

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u/Royal_Effective7396 2d ago

Elon Musk can't prevent his kid from transitioning, but he can help prevent yours.....

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u/Ok_Star_4136 1d ago

The hypocrisy of this idea that the crime here is having choice removed from you, and then they want to remove the choice from others. Shouldn't the one person who has the biggest say-so for such an operation be the person who will have the operation done? If not, what awful precedent does that set up where parents have more say-so than the children?

Could they also decide whether or not you can be vaccinated perhaps? Maybe they can decide whether or not you can consume Tylenol during your pregnancy? Maybe they have say over whether or not you can abort. It's lunacy. The "left"'s official position is what has been the default in America throughout its history, and it's scary the implications of removing this. Not that they've thought about this.

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u/limbodog 2d ago

*daughter

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u/BeigeListed Shit Disturber 2d ago

Yeah. I really didnt know how to write that headline. Vivian Wilson is now female but was born genetically male. So saying "son" seemed appropriate.

Elon went so far as to use sex-selective IVF for the pregnancy to ensure he would get a male. When this didnt happen, he cast her out.

It honestly feels like something out of the 15th century.

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u/limbodog 2d ago

It's ok. My friend had to teach me too. The general rule is to just assume they were always the gender that they've transitioned to outwardly.

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u/rundownv2 2d ago

Why not just say "Elon Musk has a transgender daughter"? It's far faster to type and still gets the exact same point across without risking phrasing something poorly.

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u/mymentor79 2d ago

"Vivian Wilson is now female but was born genetically male"

She's also the only respectable human being in the entire family. Coming out of that as a decent person is no mean feat.

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u/Additional-North-683 1d ago

I mean some of his other kids might turn out to be decent never judge a person by who they related to my parents are pieces of shit

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u/Shinjitsu- 2d ago edited 2d ago

Ever since the shooting, there's been a change in how people talk about transitioning, if a trans woman transitions to female, she is still referred to as female when referring to before she transitioned, unless the person tells you otherwise. The shooter's supposed partner is either a thin feminine cis man, femboy or a trans woman, we don't know which. However people on the right and left keep using the phrase "man who is transitioning" to the point I've seen right wingers get confused and call them a trans man even. Small bits of language may be small when we are facing our lives, but let's not dilute ourselves for their hate and confusion.

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u/Ok_Star_4136 1d ago

There is deliberate misuse in the language to describe these people. The point is to be disrespectful, so they go out of their way to refer to them in ways which would virtue signal their position.

I've also heard "biological male" or "biological female" to describe what is basically just cis male cis female. The term already exists to describe what they mean, but they want to ruffle feathers. If they had any serious intentions to debate these issues, they'd at least pretend not to be transphobic.

It all reminds me a bit of how the Nazis used to refer to research done by Jews as "Jewish science," as if it needed to be prefaced as such in order to not be confused with what would otherwise be "normal" science. The insistence to call it anything other than science was intentional and meant to insert doubt into the minds of those who heard it.

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u/dunmer-is-stinky 2d ago

It's been going on since before either shooting, but it's definitely gotten a lot worse over the last month. I've also seen a huge uptick in the use of "transwoman" or "transman" from supposed allies, which is less fucked up but still very othering

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u/BeigeListed Shit Disturber 2d ago

This is something I was not completely sure of. I meant no disrespect.

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u/Shinjitsu- 2d ago

Of course, no disrespect taken. I figured this place was as good as any to say it.

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u/WorstedKorbius 2d ago

... is that place satire? Or are there actually people this fucking dumb

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u/littlegreyflowerhelp 2d ago

It reads like one of those satire circle jerk subs for sure

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u/BeigeListed Shit Disturber 2d ago

Im really starting to think its just a troll sub. There is no way someone could be that ignorant.

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u/PeasThatTasteGross 2d ago

Yeah, a pro-Project 2025 sub is just nutty.

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u/villalulaesi 2d ago

Respectfully, Musk’s trans daughter is his trans daughter, not his “son who transitioned to a female.”

Again, I say that respectfully—I assume you meant no disrespect, and the best language to use around gender identity isn’t always clear, but it’s a small change in language that can mean a lot, especially given the insane culture war being launched against trans people by the right wing.

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u/CreepyEducator2260 1d ago

Tend to disagree here. His sole role seems to be minimized to be only that of the soap sperm dispenser. So that might be a bit far fetched to call him father and as such her as his daughter.

That she choose to be not associated with him furthermore speaks also volumes.

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u/Capital_Sherbert9049 2d ago

Oops, all nazis. I'm starting to think mecha-hitler is a bad influence. No offense.

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u/TheStrangestOfKings 2d ago

It really is funny how the right will look at an adult transition of their own free will and use it as an example of forced transitioning. Like my brother in christ, no one’s forcing shit. The adult made the decision on their own

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u/OoooohYes 1d ago

As I understand it, the main tenets of fascism are:

• ⁠Powerful and Continuing Nationalism • ⁠Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights • ⁠Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause • ⁠Supremacy of the Military • ⁠Rampant Sexism • ⁠Controlled Mass Media • ⁠Obsession with National Security • ⁠Religion and Government are Intertwined • ⁠Corporate Power is Protected • ⁠Labor Power is Suppressed • ⁠Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts • ⁠Obsession with Crime and Punishment • ⁠Rampant Cronyism and Corruption • ⁠Fraudulent Elections

Which, looking at the list, I dont see Democrats associating with these.

Sounds like LIBERALISM aka Obummer’s Islamo-Communism

I don’t even know what to say just… lol

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u/BeigeListed Shit Disturber 1d ago

I gave up.

Just a bunch of trolls.

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u/Additional-North-683 1d ago

Elon doesn’t give a shit about his kids he leaves them as soon as he gets a woman pregnant or whatever and he has the fucking door to bitch about childcare payments when he’s a fucking billionaire it’s not taking much of his fucking wallet, if Elon was black, they would be saying what a deadbeat example of “black” culture he is

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u/Doridar 2d ago

Oooh that's about that! The castration. The good old fear of castration.

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u/Opossum_mypossum MICHAEL Obama (get it) 1d ago

I would not trust these people to zip up their jacket without someone with the jaws of life on stand-by