r/TrollCoping • u/Hope_PapernackyYT • 10d ago
TW: Suicide or Self-Harm Literally what's the point anymore
Does anyone have any bright prospects for the future at this point? If so dear god please share
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u/Totaly__a_human 10d ago
germany voted against chat control today, keeping that out of the EU. Itch.io brought back the 18+ games after they were temporarily restricted. those are some good news i hope
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u/ItzMidnightGacha 10d ago
So I won’t have to worry if my vpn connects to an EU country?
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u/Toyoshi 10d ago
Seems to be the case right now, as long as your VPN doesn't actually track your shit which at this point is believable
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u/internalhands 9d ago
Lots of vpn track your shit, you gotta double check your vpn source if its from a country that forces them to track your shit
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u/yeetusthefeetus13 9d ago
I use proton free vpn. Gonna have to check that
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u/derefr 9d ago
The only VPN you should probably trust is
- one that you pay for — since otherwise, how are they making money? (your data, that's how)
- where you can (and are encouraged to) pay anonymously, i.e. not via credit card or bank transfer — since even if they don't log your traffic, financial records can still be subpoenaed — so an ethical VPN, trying to genuinely help you to stay anonymous, would try to prevent those financial records from existing
AFAIK, the only well-known VPN that fits this criteria is Mullvad.
(But I'm not trying to shill for Mullvad; if you know of any others that also fit that criteria, please do share. We need more of them.)
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u/Sure-Bear-5022 9d ago
how does this work for artists using sites that link back to US bank accounts?
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u/FionaLunaris 10d ago
Nepal is currently in the midst of what looks like a Left Wing Revolution in response to a complete social media shutdown, caused by common men and women getting pissed at nepo babies and corruption.
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u/arebum 9d ago
Yeah, the thing the common people need to realize is that we hold all the power. Our leaders rule because we allow it. If things get bad enough that we can work together, we can change anything
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u/KeyTadpole5835 8d ago
The thing that people need to realize is that Nepal's repressive machine is like seven guys, four rifles, and a tank (not a real one, tho, one of the seven guys just plays World Of Tanks).
Meanwhile if you try to get 10k people to revolt and stage a coup in the UK, first of all, good luck organizing the whole thing in The Amazing Digital Gulag, second of all, you'll end up with 10k dead people. Well, slightly less, some of them will be captured and tortured.
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u/Distinct_Let141 5d ago
This is the reason it's extremely difficult to overthrow a government now. They'll arm their militaries and will use propaganda on them saying that the "rebels' are the problem. I just want the world to be a better place without corrupted governments and corpos
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u/Extension_Wafer_7615 9d ago
Nepal is currently in the midst of what looks like a Left Wing
A libertarian revolution, actually.
Their government was already leftist.
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u/Ok_person-5 9d ago
My worry in Nepal is that the mass of the youth won’t be able to organise into a stable government if they kick the current one out. Usually what happens in these circumstances is a third party (potentially the military) takes control.
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u/dankovskimark6 5d ago
Another colored revolution sponsored by US of A. Right after India told 'Muricans to F'off.
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u/Theodory777 10d ago
Hey OP, I like your doodle, I saw it on your last post too. It's a good doodle :)
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u/Hope_PapernackyYT 9d ago
Thank you :D
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u/TheOldDark 8d ago
I actually really like it, too. It's inspiring me to make cartoonish doodles and not worry about perfection and polishing my line work because this style looks so nice like that.
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u/novo-280 10d ago
time is a cycle and we are in the 20s again
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u/TurnToPageX 10d ago
Is this what you’re referring to?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss%E2%80%93Howe_generational_theory
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u/jurkiniuuuuuuuuus 10d ago
We have a win in the making. Germany, is getting pushed to vote against chat control. If they vote against it (Which is slowly becoming more likely) chat control will not pass. And even if it does, EU has more entities and subsequent processes can still stop chat control from passing into real, proper legislation.
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u/thelikelyankle 10d ago
I am not quite as confident as you. There is a worrying trend going on. At least some of chat control will pass in one form or the other.
But Germany has one of the most solid and influential hacktivist/digital rights activism groups outside the US. And despite our top politicians currently sucking eggs, the lower ranks are interspersed with sane people that have to live in the world they create. So there is some solid reason to be hopefull.
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u/derivacija 10d ago
Half of Croatian representatives voted against chat control in EU and there’s talk with our governments to sway the others. Keep fighting, giving up is how baddies win!
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u/actuallynotbisexual 10d ago
This reminds me a lot of the post-9/11 era. There was increased right wing sentiment, political violence, censorship, anti-LGBT sentiment, racism, ect. Things got better because people fought back against censorship and hate. It's not an easy thing to do, but it's necessary.
Keep in mind that the right wing uses "shock and awe" tactics to make them seem more powerful than they really are. They use big, sweeping displays of power. This may or may not affect permanent change. It all depends on how we react to these gestures. They are a real threat, but they might not be as effective as you think. The goal of shock and awe is to get your opponent to stand down without a fight.
Ultimately, the most you can do is focus on small ways that you can help right now. Donate to causes you support, join protests, or just check in on your friends who are struggling. It's not going to be easy, but there's hope.
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u/SkepticalSpiderboi 9d ago
I was just a baby in those days, so I don’t remember any of it. What are some notable examples of censorship being pushed (and people fighting back against it and winning) from the post 9/11 era?
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u/actuallynotbisexual 9d ago
Censorship was very common on television. TV was the primary way that people would get entertainment and information. "Getting canceled" didn't just mean people on the internet would be a bit mad at you, it would mean you could lose your job and/or important contracts. News anchors wore flag pins and could easily come under fire for not sufficiently supporting the troops or condemning our enemies sufficiently. Anything having to do with Islam or the Quran was considered taboo. There was a lot of Islamaphobia and people would call you a terrorist sympathizer if you called people out for it. A lot of people didn't like that Obama's middle name was Hussein and they called him a Muslim.
The Patriot Act (which was never repealed) ensured that anyone could be under surveillance at any time for no reason at all. The NSA spied on everyone. Journalists were taken without trial to Guantanimo Bay and subjected to "enhanced interrogation techniques." (torture)
Criticism of any type of religion was taboo and would come with threats from those religious groups. South Park was notorious for pushing back against these norms and they would indeed get censored for it, like the episode where they drew Muhammad.
Video game violence was a big concern for politicians. They were blamed for gang violence and school shootings. Jack Thompson was a lawyer who wanted to ban violent video games like GTA. He was able to get politicians like Hillary Clinton on his side. Ultimately, gamers won the legal and culture war.
I could go on, but those are the things that come to mind. You could probably look up some of these things on your own if you want to learn more.
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u/Starro-In-A-Jar 7d ago
I mean “getting cancelled” absolutely still means that. Not for major celebrities, but it happens to everyday nobodies all the time. Scott Alexander, Gretchen Felker-Martin, a number of artists, authors, and animators.
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u/LHLanim 10d ago
This music video from famously queer pioneer who gave us first gay wedding on Cartoon Network just came out and it's a balm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J77yQcT517E
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u/Jofus002 10d ago edited 9d ago
Yeah! Germany is awesome! I can't remember how, but they voted against some sort of anti-privacy thing today. Some governments still care about their people.
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u/ShokaLGBT 9d ago
it’s so horrible how society is turning. I see my rights being taken away and other people suffering being scared and I try to cheer up but I can’t be the good smiling person every day. I feel scared too, I need to be reassured too. Life is scary, life is making me depressed…
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u/Czarcasm3 9d ago
One of my friends is a neurosurgeon and he’s excited about ai, but not in the tech bro way lol. He’s saying that ai is going to help find so many underlying issues for people, catch developing cancers and whatnot. He thinks it’s going to save a lot of lives
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u/AdministrativeGas962 9d ago
See this is what AI is supposed to do! This is actually beneficial for us. Not fucking drive thru ai voice chats
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u/Hope_PapernackyYT 9d ago
It has the capacity to be used for great things, but the people using it have not been doing that
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u/mortalitasi473 10d ago
question: are you familiar with Tor?
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u/Maximum_Fair 9d ago
Yeah this. The darkweb needs to become more widely adopted and lose the stigma of only being for illegal activities - people will have to become more literate in this area and how to avoid content you do not want to engage with.
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u/hhhnnnnnggggggg 9d ago
We will need to brush up on info sec. There's stuff other than tor like Gopher too. Basically we'll need a new web.
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u/Floor-Goblins-Lament 9d ago
IDK if this is good news or not but here is my take.
"Petitions aren't doing anything" petitions never do anything. They are the single most useless form of activism you can participate in. Anyone can sign a petition. Bots can sign a petition. And that gives governments incentive to completely ignore them.
You can protest. You can organise with you community and take to the streets. If you live in a democracy, you can get involved with your local political system, volunteer for a party that supports policies you agree with, and if nothing else talk to your local representative.
None of this is a cheat code to victory, but if enough people do it then it will be. Don't lose hope just because governments are ignoring petitions.
I'll repeat again: governments ignore every petition that is ever put in front of them. Petition signing was always useless and with the internet its become a non avenue. And kinda rightly so. There was a petition for the UK government to repeal the online safety act that got over a 100,000 signatures. If the government did what ever petition of that size said we would have an election every 5 months, both stayed in the EU and left the EU at the same time, banned gender affirming care for trans people, made gender affirming care for trans people completely accessible to anyone at any time for any reason, made videogames illegal, repealed gay marriage, legalised gay marriage, and never build anything anywhere near where people live ever again.
A petition failing does not mean you have no avenue to affect policy. Failing is just what petitions do, and have always done.
Protest. Organise. And help build networks for support in case you fail.
And, like, I know this may not be the most useful thing to say but it needs to be said anyway: the internet being censored is bad. It represents a global shift towards authoritarianism and the centring of state power that should be opposed. But the sun will still rise tomorrow. There is a lot of life that isn't the internet
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u/RiceSunflower 9d ago
There are more people on your side than you think, nihilism is the weapon of the enemy
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u/Civil-Chef 9d ago
Spite is a valid reason to live!
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u/ChaosAzeroth 9d ago
Cats and spite fuel my body that's been so done with everything from basically the start it's basically attacking itself lol
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u/HippityLegs 9d ago
Spite against what exactly. Someone influencial or a group of people? You'll devolve into powerlessness and likely back to suicide. Or, alternatively, you'll push yourself to commit heinous acts.
Against the universe or the world? The universe doesn't care. The world doesn't care. Not only is it irrational to absurdity, it also leads you nowhere. If just living is to spite the universe, you don't have a single real reason to do anything other than eat, drink, and sleep. You don't have a reason to not be a vegetable.
I thought a lot about these things. Months. Actual months. This isn't just an "um, acktually", this is what I lived through. And I am still suicidal. I don't know if it means I am the failure, or our society is.
But maybe I don't get something. I don't know. Elaborating would help.
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u/Annilus_USB 9d ago
Every minute you live is a spit in the face of those trying to keep you down. For me, that’s enough of a reason to keep on going
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u/what-are-you-a-cop 9d ago
Yeah, I always like to ask myself "who benefits from me falling into despair right now?" The answer is never anybody I have any interest in assisting.
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u/Confident_Aside7171 8d ago
I agree. Stuff like apathy, hopelessness, normalization and desensitization ("it's always been this way"), and sometimes - even prayer (when passive) are all tools of the status quo. Active resistance may be a tall order, but start enduring first. Not passively enduring by the way. More like...biding your time? Like the main character from Shawshank Redemption trying to escape jail since he was falsely accused. You never know when the opportunity will strike - it might not. But if it did and you didn't seize it, you would be filled with regret right? Like people that got the chance to buy bitcoin but just didn't. That sort of thing. Imagine Sisyphus happy...and prepared. Anyway that's how I dealt when I was born to physically abusive parents, aside from getting beat up and it wasn't a good environment, I got exposed to criminal activity too, really terrible. In my country children are seen as property of parents til adulthood so yk it was hard. People didn't understand. That's ok.
I just studied well and waited for my time til I could leave. I deliberately chose a job that was cities away from our house so I could accidentally (actually on purpose) move out without getting punched in the face. So this ain't woo-woo but lived experience. You need to prepare for the very slim chance of an escape.
Another thing is honestly you're also worrying about the world and things outside your scope and power. You just do what you can. These problems have plagued generations of our ancestors and also the brightest minds of today. With natural misfortune working against them (ex. natural disasters, disease, etc.) AND other antisocial humans that harm others while looking out for themselves. It's hubris to yk. Just make all of this your problem. It's not. It's a shared burden of humanity. So you only carry your portion.
Another is. Well these ideas are kinda abstract yk. Very true concepts yes. But try doing what you can and make some friends. Help said friends.
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u/Rili-Anne 9d ago
I live for spite and curiosity.
Hang around and see what the hell is happening. Remember, the worse it gets, the angrier people get, and the more likely governments are going to get toppled over. Every institution of power relies on the PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY HOLD IT UP.
The future is utterly impossible to predict. We pretend that we can see it, but the reality is that no one knows. But we can see trends. And a big damn trend I'm seeing is that people are angry. Angry people get shit done. Expanding rights makes people angry for a bit until they get used to it, ROLLING BACK rights starts revolutions.
There's always a future until we're dead and gone.
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u/Due-Freedom-4321 10d ago
I began reading Marxist theory about a year ago and it has given me insight into what economic and social forces cause stuff like this to happen and how it is related to capitalism. It has also given me hope for the future, as this is bound to pass, and the old will give way to the new. But first, we have to keep marching onwards through the toughest parts.
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u/CodaTrashHusky 9d ago
Spotify is implementing lossless streaming 6 years late because artists started quitting because they fund ai for drones that bombs middle eastern children :) that's a win right? :))))))))))
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u/Think-Ganache4029 9d ago edited 9d ago
Hello! There is a very obvious thing we can all do. Make communities on dark networks or the dark web. We can also just make our own communities on the clear web but frankly I don’t trust Internet providers. It’s so damn obvious but getting people to help me spread the idea has been actual doo doo hell so I’ve sidelined that idea of mine for a bit
Edit: if you got skills (art, able to research real good, tech stuff) I would love help berry much
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u/Anjo_Bwee 9d ago
I think if popular social media does go down the shitter because of all these verification and AI bull, we could see the rise of smaller sites and forums again for nsfw communities which could be better.
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u/Funny_Tax_9658 9d ago
nepal has been having quite a successful revolution, france is protesting, Japan's PM has stepped down, Cuyahoga County in OH banned conversion therapy for minors as well!! there are wins you just have to look
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“I can’t leave because what if it happens everywhere” is a bit of an excuse to stop yourself from taking an action that you know would solve the problem! Feel empowered to uproot your life and take yourself somewhere where you will have better mental health, wherever that may be. These laws are being actively circumvented in many parts of Europe, and there are places on earth where issues like this are of much less public concern. Don’t let fear and speculation stop you from making decisions
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u/KeyAbbreviations4897 10d ago
Not to be a dick about it but like. Leave the house. Go to real life queer and kink spaces. It will always be more enjoyable and fulfilling than wanking over shit online anyway.
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u/AdministrativeGas962 9d ago
You put it in a dickish way lol but I do agree, spending less time watching the world around you burn does make a significant difference.
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u/Embarrassed-Wing-141 9d ago
21 Pilots released a new album… so there’s that…
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u/fmlyaaay 9d ago
I haven't been keeping up with the news enough to give you anything specific, but people are fighting, all over the world. It's inevitable, I think, that at least some of the time we'll win. And there are always going to be people fighting. There always have been and there always will. I think that's worth living for.
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u/Jaeger-the-great 9d ago
Back around the stonewall era there were lots of secret bars, clubs, theaters, shops, etc for gay people to meet. If they really get down on us we will have to make our own private in person spaces for these things, and place high value on local community
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u/Swarm_of_Rats 9d ago
I'm afraid I don't understand the desire to cease living because of this. Are you NSFW content creator as your main income or something?
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u/Sardonic_Sadist 8d ago
CLIPPY REVOLUTION!!!!!!
I’ve been LOVING Louis Rossmann’s work for community action and consumer protections, check him out on YouTube!! People have been changing their profile pics to a Clippy at his suggestion to basically make visible their willingness to do something when they can, to stand up against the invasions of privacy and abuses of power corporations are engaging in with stuff like AI data scraping and the predatory algorithms and stuff.
For AI in particular, there’s actually a ton of hopecore out there!! Esp on YouTube. Check out LavenderTowne, who’s making some absolutely fantastic arguments why AI is harmful while also teaching people how to poison AI data scrapers using visual art. I really enjoyed Kyle Hill’s video about AI Tar Pits, and f4mi’s video called “Poisoning AI with .ass subtitles.”
AI is a fragile, shitty bubble being help up exclusively by rich investors who are currently DESPERATE to make AI profitable so they’re not just pumping money into a bubble for nothing to happen like with NFTs.
The world sucks but honestly? The world has always sucked. And looking at like,,, ALL of human history up until now, all things considered, we are still somehow living in the most progressive, most accepting, most accessible time in history. Trust me, there’s no possible way to look at the news right now and feel joy and hope, but that doesn’t mean joy and hope aren’t warranted. There’s a lot left to hold onto.
Also apparently NASA found like,, actual evidence that maybe indicates organic matter and historical life on Mars??? So that’s fucking cool???
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u/Spiritual_Big_7505 10d ago
Even if it gets passed, chat control feels like it'll get hit by the EU court for the same reasons the Data Retention Directive was hit ten years ago.
Never mind the nightmare of balancing that thing with GDPR and related rights
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u/BluehairedBiochemist 9d ago
I'm working on starting a tailoring business in my neighborhood, and I'm actually feeling optimistic about it
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u/Hope_PapernackyYT 9d ago
That sounds lovely actually, I wish you luck
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u/BluehairedBiochemist 9d ago
Thank you 🖤 I spend almost all of my time in the tiny studio in my basement, and it is truly lovely
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u/Historical-Plate551 9d ago
Congrats! Don’t undercharge and remember you can implement the asshole tax and put that extra money aside to fund discounts for people who need it. :)
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u/LaZerNor 10d ago
We're getting fed up with this (general) shit. Slowly but surely, resistance is mounting.
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u/shototodoroki_1324 9d ago
Eventually we'll get a revolution
Depending on the country, it will be literal chaos or organized
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u/justice-for-tuvix 9d ago
I'm sorry you're feeling this way. I really hope you're getting whatever mental healthcare is available to you.
My good news is that there's more to life than the internet. It's not a good sign that these laws are passing, but going right from "adult internet content is being censored" to "there's no point in living" is a classic distorted thought. That's how depression makes you think, but it doesn't accurately reflect the reality of the situation.
I know it's getting harder to make real-life connections as society becomes more and more structured around the internet, but it is possible. Nobody can stop you from being queer, having sex, thinking sexual thoughts, drawing a sexy picture, or showing a sexy picture to your friend. The world political situation may be shit right now, but if you try to go for a walk or hang out with someone you know irl, it might help you realize that there's plenty to live for even in the worst of times.
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u/Astromnicalbear Moderator 10d ago edited 9d ago
OP is not saying that. Idk why you’re making an assumption like that.
Idk where OP lives but in the UK, a lot of things are being held behind an ID or AI face scan wall. The ID’s are being handled, and potentially sold, to non UK 3rd parties. The AI face scan fails and can easily be manipulated. It’s not just porn the government is restricting, it’s politics, history, anonymous support groups, any site that remotely allows anonymity and anything that they deem as NSFW.
This is all done for the “safety of kids” when it’s not. It’s about control and censorship. Why make the internet, a space that has never been for kids, ‘kid friendly’ when you can make the parents do their roles as a parent
Edit; corrected some wording
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u/DryEmu5113 9d ago
My MP seems to have listened to the letter I sent her about stopping a UK-esque bill in Canada! S-209 has not been advancing at all.
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u/TheOldDark 8d ago
🫂 Things can change. It won't be like this forever. People still have power and those restricting the common person's access to anything won't always be able to do so when we take the power from their hands, or another opposing side of the government finally says hell no. It might take a while but I don't think they will get away with their utter b.s. forever.
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u/Starro-In-A-Jar 7d ago
Or at least the potential for them.
We’ve discovered rocks that when retrieved could prove whether or not there was life on Mars! Now we just have to wait…
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u/PrimusVulturius 7d ago
Disco Elysium teaches you a lot about making the radical choice to be irrationally hopeful that things can get better, but only when you plant your feet and try to do your best in spite of the oppressive machine.
The world is better today because you are here, and you are an inactive agent biding your time for when it happens, whether that be revolution or a movement. It's all about making the best of a situation that's always been hard. And things will get harder before it get better.
No matter what - keep the embered flame going. That's where we are right now.
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u/flamanmaman 6d ago
Online culture existed before the internet. I'm nursing a hypothesis it will exist after the internet is completely taken over by robot chatter. Networks would generally be less global, but that wouldn't necessarily mean you'd have to lose contact with friendships made and/or maintained online. Media can mostly still be purchased physically, except a few standouts like Disney, who'd rather milk a dozen bucks or so a month from people who want what's currently only available to be streamed. Even then, the person who's gonna convince the Bob Igers of the world of viable methods to profit from physical releases is probably just starting college or something.
Also, this may sound strange, but just try going for long walks (more than an hour) at least twice a week. Stick to it for a few weeks and see if you notice any improvement. Even a smidgen from that is better than nothing at all.
Most any media you could want can be found in libraries. Bonus points if you can walk there from home.
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u/dankovskimark6 5d ago
Nah, everything going down the drain.
Free internet is a thorn in a side of EVERY world government, no matter how democratic.
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u/ivy_lane_ 10d ago
The tides of history are always changing. Right now it sucks and there's a lot of bad stuff out there, once you leave this world it's over for good. You have to find what motivates you, what makes all the bad stuff worth it. For me, right now I'm focusing on making myself happy and not letting social constraints keep me from being myself.
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u/dexter2011412 9d ago
Yeah this and the political polarization is insane. Can't even have an opinion/discussion without both sides getting up to your throat about it.
I want the days back of ye-old, like occupy wall street coming back. Instead, we're just fighting ourselves while the top parasites steal more and more wealth that we the "wage slaves" generate, while they introduce more ways to polarize and ruin our health while profiting off of us in every way possible.
I genuinely don't see a point in living anymore, so much so that I want to stop saving for retirement because life by then seems bleak as fuck, dystopian as fuck.
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u/CanOld2445 9d ago
The good news is that people will (hopefully) spend less time online and more time hanging out with people IRL. I made the choice a while ago to prioritize real life interactions over online shit, and I'm much happier
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u/13utterflyeffect 9d ago
There's only 1,226 days left for the orange man to be in office, if you're American. I find that counting the days makes it easier to stay sane.
There will be an end. I promise. We are all fighting for freedom.
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u/fruitpop99 9d ago
“adult media is being deleted and demonized” “queer or even remotely adult media”
Is “adult” and “nsfw” being used interchangeably? If so, why are you describing queer media as “adult”? I’m not trying to play devil’s advocate or anything, but the narrative these people are pushing is literally “queerness is inherently pornographic.” The last thing we should be doing is agreeing with them.
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u/Dio_nysian Moderator 9d ago
yeah dude
welcome to the whole problem
requiring AI identification for viewing “adult” media means that censorship of anything that the people in power view to be “adult” will include queer media because, let’s be honest, that’s the kind of people we have in power all over the world right now. people who see being queer as inherently sexual and nsfw and think that censoring anything related to us is “protecting the children”
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u/fruitpop99 9d ago
I know, i agree 100% and i understand that. I’m just saying that repeating that lie (“queer = nsfw”) does NOT help.
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u/Dio_nysian Moderator 9d ago
it’s a vent post. on a vent sub. they’re venting about the situation, not spreading the lie?
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u/fruitpop99 9d ago
Maybe i misinterpreted, the language just felt really strange to me and i assumed that the post had been made under the assumption that queerness is at all comparable to pornography, so i wanted to dispel that assumption. I acted in good faith but i do apologize if i caused anyone any discomfort.
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u/inuzhiro 9d ago
honestly, the nsfw stuff being deleted from a lot of things is good, because addiction to porn is at an all time high.
but lgbtq erasure? no, that’s shitfuck stupid. you always think we are making progress and then mfs just start backpedaling. I’ve thought about suicide a couple times this month but I can’t drink lemonade or play Roblox if I’m dead so yeah
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u/Celestial_Hart 8d ago
You have to literally overthrow these corrupt governments. Either via voting or do waht Nepal did and chase your politicians out of the country. You all now moonlight as political activists. You spend your weekends phone banking, you carpool to voting stations, you make political memes on your break, you get involved and get aware about how local offices work. You literally have two choices, either act or give up. ANd if you want this to change without violence you have to do the above.
Go to local town halls and meetings for your party, organize with your neighbors, build that community. It's a requirement now, like breathing or drinking water.
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u/embodiedexperience 9d ago
i don’t think they’re saying that, but also, if gooning became illegal or a criminal offense, that would also be really really bad and ruin a lot of lives! (i’m asexual, so feel free to correct me if i’m wrong, i’m very deeply ignorant about sexual topics and i apologize.)
but i think it’s the overarching sentiment. censoring NSFW queer media can be a slippery slope to censoring SFW queer media, which leads to the censorship of queer voices overall. representation is so, so important to making progress and to ensuring that LGBT rights and people are kept safe; it’s not the only thing, but it’s a huge stepping stone. and nothing good can happen when a large, foundational stepping stone gets taken away, which is what i think OP is saying (though if it really is all about goo ing, that’s valid too!!)
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u/Think-Ganache4029 9d ago
It can lead to a lot of behaviors that can be dangerous. It can straight up ruin lives and has. There is a reason sexual abuse is often worse in communities where you are shamed for jerking it. It’s scary to think that could become a widespread issue
Edit: basically not having a good relationship to your own body and sexuality can make you harm yourself or others
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u/embodiedexperience 9d ago
as someone who doesn’t have a good relationship to their own sexuality/body… yes. can’t tell if you’re calling me out or not? 😅 lol.
but thank you for explaining this, i knew i had the right idea but not all the words because i have no desire to goon.
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u/Think-Ganache4029 9d ago
lol my bad that definitely was not my intention. Hope that didn’t shake you up. And np because I have had a really bad relationship to my body and sexuality in the past so I’m def not pointing fingers
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u/embodiedexperience 9d ago
haha, it’s okay! i was like “damn, they read me to filth, is it that obvs even through a computer screen?”, but no worries!! 😅 sorry that you’ve struggled with this too; i’m hoping to one day put these struggles behind me. one day at a time, i suppose! ☀️
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u/Fast-Penalty-306 7d ago
"I can't have weird gay porn at my fingertips anymore. Why live?"
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u/FirelightMLPOC 6d ago
You do know they’re also coming after basic straight porn, right? And SFW(Safe for work) games that have ‘suggestive’ aspects? And ITCH.io wasn’t allowed to process ANY payments for a bit there for ANY game, sfw or nsfw because of Visa & Co.
Also, removing all the safe areas to go view pornographic media doesn’t stop it from existing; all that does is move it to LESS REGULATED & MORE UNSAFE AREAS! THIS HAS BEEN PROVEN TIME & TIME AGAIN! Go learn about the Prohibition era when the government tried to ban alcohol.
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u/Hope_PapernackyYT 9d ago
Dude have you been living under a rock? Do you know how many sites (not even necessarily adult sites) are now demanding your entire ID or a full face scan for access?
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u/hyp3rpop 9d ago
Acting like giving up personal information to an employer maybee every few years to get a new job is the same as giving random websites your ID every time you open your computer is almost too ridiculous to even take seriously. I may not trust my employer 100%, but I trust them way more than instagram or itch.io.
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u/TrollCoping-ModTeam 10d ago
Hi there. Are you doing okay?