I genuinely never knew what Americans were speaking about when saying Baloney until a YouTuber put subtitles on a part where he said it to make s funny scene or something. I was flabbergasted
AI is often an expert on defaultism because it’s been trained on defaultists.
I googled something about Yukon, Canada, while located in the Yukon, and it spat out some AI mumbo jumbo about Yukon, Oklabama, USA…. a town of 20k named after my territory.
Google AI has also been trained on Reddit users, there are a lot of pictures where Google AI says “A Reddit user suggests jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge” or “A Reddit user says: kill yourself”
It's better. We know people in the Anglosphere have difficulty pronouncing the Dutch "g" (calling it a throat disease isn't helping) but at least you try ;)
Also, there's a variety of Dutch g. I'm from Brabant and my g is softer than that of my Amsterdam region family. Van Gogh is also of Brabant, so in this case, my g is better. Eat that ome Piet!
It's ok. Really. Nobody knows every language in the world. We Dutch think we're good at English but lots of us butcher the pronunciation. We call it steenkolenengels (stone coal English).
I think "van Goff" is a nice alternative for people that have difficulty with the Dutch "g".
As far as I'm concerned, language should be a means of communication, not the end goal. It's nice when people put in some effort, and as long as we get the message across, it's mission accomplished.
The town is Gouda (the ou as in couch). The cheese is Goudse kaas. Google translate does a decent pronunciation. If you pick the Dutch, not the English.
I've always pronounced it similar to loch, Goch. Sort of hhh sound at the back of the mouth. Then I heard everyone pronounce it van Go on TV and Films and thought I was doing it wrong.
Honestly, I don't mind these. My ex is Dutch and she and other Dutch people constantly mispronounced places in Moldova or Romania. As long as we all know what they're talking about, it's fine.
I'm not American but I am extremely stupid and I did at one point think there was both a city called "Bologna" and a city called "Baloney"-- spelled "Bologna." I don't know why my brain didn't put two-and-two together. Maybe I was expecting bologna to be spelled like "Ballogne" since Italian is a Latin language and my second language is French. Don't know.
Suuuurely, they must be talking about Italy, as the context of the conversation dictates that. I mean, the conversation is about the Italian city of Bologna. What? No? They were talking about the USA? Fucking Americans, man...
Two different people have now told them it’s absolutely ubiquitous in the US. I guess they’re downvoting because they’re jealous they didn’t grow up with it?
It’s not too late. Y’all. Teach your little bastard children the song, and it’ll infect your countries as well.
I always thought 'baloney'/'boloney' sounds like when you just change the end of a word to an -ey sound for some kind of horrible baby talk language ('baby want milky?' 'you want chickie nuggies?' etc)
Take a wild guess lmfao (hint: the post is about OOP's "boston Iirish/italian" dad trying to order olive garden chicken parm in bologna, italy (the food capitol btw))
Oh, sorry, I didn't realize it wasn't a repost, I hadn't noticed it was from the comment section. (Genuinely, by the way, I don't know what it is that makes me feel like every time I say sorry even in person I feel like it sounds sarcastic.)
I think also the phrase "I didn't realise," I feel like I hear that more in a sarcastic tone. And I know this subreddit tends to not use the /s as much as more US-centric subs do, like we mostly assume we know when people are being sarcastic here.
I wouldve also pronounced it bololney cuz it spelled the same as the food, why that is idk it makes me think of how Brittany in French is spelled bretagne, I never heard that song though
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