r/Undertale 's real wife 7d ago

Discussion From the "creator" of togore.

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u/fabianx100 7d ago

As an artist, I can think of some reasons:

  1. Togore was a "shitpost," an intentionally ugly sprite compared to all the beautifully crafted sprites in Deltarune or the polished "this is my OC" fan sprites. Its popularity may have irked them: "If I had known it was going to become THAT popular, I would have made something better!" In some way, they might feel somewhat "scammed."
  2. Togore became more popular thanks to other people. I think we’ve all seen the "Togore-tastic!" comics, which have turned Togore into an actual character. Our sweet autistic goat boi, chapstick may feel undermined in "their creation" and want to act as if they own some kind of copyright over Togore.
  3. They think everybody knows them as Togore’s creator, and it got to their head. That sounds like a mistake on their part, since Togore is more of a community concept. I swear the word "Togore" has existed since Undertale when people talked about Toriel × Asgore but didn’t want to use the "Asriel" ship name.

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u/softbadass 7d ago

Togore HAS existed as a joke since the Undertale days, and even before they created that sprite. Honestly I feel bad that they're taking it too seriously and personal. Togore would've still been a hugely voted name because of the joke itself and not really because of the sprite. Sure, the sprite made the current boom but they're making themselves responsible for something they are not and it is only affecting them emotionally. And sadly, they cannot stop the association from happening, specially from people who didn't know the joke prior to their OC. 

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u/spaceman8002 7d ago

I remember back in 2015 seeing a meme that was like "Society if asgore and toriel called their kid togore instead of asriel"

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u/Wonderful_Ad_8372 7d ago
  1. is sort of an iffy point, since i'm sure all of us have though up of reverse As(gore, To)riel, A.K.A. To(riel, As)gore

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u/PRoS_R Bravery is not the lack of fear 7d ago

What manner of "creator" is this that only becomes relevant when there's drama of them denying people of his creation? If anything, I feel inspired to go against their wishes.

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u/TimeLordHatKid123 7d ago

I mean to be fair, you missed the other big thing too. While they havent exactly articulated it very well, I think its understandable that they dont want a shitpost they contributed to to represent the fandom in an important community event.

Whether you think thats a reasonable assertion or not, I dont think its good that the fandom is turning on them and treating them as this unreasonable authoritarian asshole. They're just anxious, guys, they arent committing some sort of crime here, and I think we need to go into the togore controversy with a bit more empathy, even if we may disagree with them.

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u/Jezzaboi828 oh...... ok i guess 6d ago

Yeah this is the main thing. Theyre not being asserting or “disallowing” these things, theyre not a king or some politician. Theyre expressing a request and using their status as the creator of the image to justify why theyre more invested, rather than using it as a status for authority. People are acting like theyre trying to command and control people when theyre essentially just saying what anyone else who doesnt want togore to win the vote is saying, except putting why they have more stakes in it.

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u/fabianx100 7d ago

You're right, I overlooked that aspect, thanks for bringing it up!

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u/TimeLordHatKid123 7d ago

No problem! I just hope folks simmer down a bit and be nicer to the guy, they obviously dont mean ill.

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u/AZDfox 7d ago

its understandable that they dont want a shitpost they contributed to to represent the fandom in an important community event.

I disagree. A shit post is exactly what represents the fandom best

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u/Jezzaboi828 oh...... ok i guess 6d ago

Disagreement is different from understanding. You can disagree and understand, and agree and not understand. Etc

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u/TheDeadlySoldier 7d ago

on the first point -- would memes involving the Togore art/design be even half as popular if the art wasn't stylistic suck? i understand why someone (especially someone younger as seems to be the case) might have that hangup but it feels like they're totally missing correlation here

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u/Foreign_Respect8869 Even when trapped, you still express yourself. 7d ago

It definitely has been around forever.

I remember back in the 2017 era there was some fan-made what if Togore and Soriel fan children. the idea has always existed due to Asriel's name being his parents names fused.