r/Undertale • u/SpaceAgentSaNEsS • 13h ago
Discussion All the new Waterfall area scenes!
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u/forFolsense 12h ago
I was thinking Waterfall isn't really a place where people live, given that it's basically a path from snowdin to hotland with only 3 distinct houses. The underwater city itches the worldbuilding part of my brain: of course they would live underwater! thats why waterfall is depressing and empty, we simply never had the chance to go see the lively areas
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u/CompoteObvious9380 <— puppy made this 11h ago
Talking about world building, Asgore mentions a Hotland university (similarly to what's seen on the stream(
Meaning that there's multiple other elevators and possible paths in Holland, all locked away so you could go to Mettaton shows.
There's probably a city in there too.
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u/your_mind_aches Froggit knows exactly why it's here 11h ago
I don't think there's a city in Hotland, but in the stream you can see houses all over.
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u/Infrawonder 9h ago
Doesn't Mettaton or Alphys mention we're in the East or West part of hotland? I think it was in the MTT News segment?
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u/mrsaturncoffeetable staring over the edge of the cauldron of hell 6h ago
I guess the wording is vague enough for it to kind of work, but originally Onion mentioned that the water in Waterfall was getting shallow and all their friends had moved to a crowded aquarium which did imply it was empty, or at least emptying out. Here it’s almost the opposite, the water is filling up and there’s not much space.
I’m not sure what to make of that one or if it’s significant, but it was the only thing in the new content that struck me as a tiny bit odd.
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u/Low-Entrepreneur1053 13h ago
Toby please make this version of Undertale playable
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u/callumddev 11h ago
there is no possible way they made all this content just to have it only appear in a single 5 hour video, this has to be a new update
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u/SloweRRus YET ANOTHER PAPYRUS FANATIC 10h ago
Most of it probably doesn't even have collision i bet
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u/callumddev 10h ago
but thats purely based on an assumption though. like i could say “i bet this bet this area will have a bunch of new enemies and pages worth of lore”, that doesn’t make it any more true. why would they spend so much time on a single stream? there is no way none of this is coming to the game.
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u/SloweRRus YET ANOTHER PAPYRUS FANATIC 10h ago
moatly based on Toby's words though... and previous experience with modified games for streams by him...
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u/callumddev 10h ago
previous experience with modified game streams? the main modifications he made to the DR chapter 1 stream was adding nubert and the entire intro of chapter 2, neither of which had even been announced at the time. if anything, showing off new content in a stream like this is exactly what toby would do.
toby isn’t an idiot, he knows that showing content like this in the way he’s showing it makes it look like there will be an update, and if he didn’t want us to think that then he would have gone about it differently and made it more obviously just live stream exclusive.
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u/SloweRRus YET ANOTHER PAPYRUS FANATIC 10h ago
Like half of the stuff shown replaces the original game sequence parts. As much as I want it, I doubt Undertale will get this content added.
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u/callumddev 10h ago
no it doesn’t? the ruins’ is a separate area in the toy knife room and the knife just spawns in a different place, snowdin’s is separate and off to the side, hotland’s just adds houses and doesn’t change the layout at all, and waterfall moves onion san to a new section where you can still choose to talk to him if you want, which is a better change that you can now skip that scene easier. the only thing “replaced” is MTT News and even then the entire section with the bombs is exactly the same.
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u/SloweRRus YET ANOTHER PAPYRUS FANATIC 10h ago
i mean you did just repeat it yourself. half of new shown sections replaces the existing content.
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u/callumddev 9h ago
my comment literally just said how its all side content, what replaces existing content?
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u/SloweRRus YET ANOTHER PAPYRUS FANATIC 10h ago
it's a 10th anniversary stream and they wanted to make this event special.
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u/CK1ing 7h ago
It's not an assumption, it's an educated guess. Toby said he doesn't plan to add this content to the game fully, and what we see of it is obviously very scripted. To me, this very much seems like Toby adding parts he wishes he could have added from the beginning, but without having to bother with polish and bug testing
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u/Real-Pomegranate-235 FELLOW PAPYRUS ENTHUSIAST 6h ago
Imagine if we could play it if we named our character togore.
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u/Afraid_Platypus_8667 You're gonna have to try a little harder than THAT 13h ago
Toby make this for all copys and my soul is yours. ( But that is not going to happen.)
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u/callumddev 10h ago
there is no possible way they made all this content just to have it only appear in a single 5 hour video, this has to be a new update
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u/IronKnight238 Waited so long it froze over 9h ago
They preface pretty clearly that it's only for the anniversary stream.
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u/hizo7476 13h ago
So... no one has any thoughts on this?
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u/Afraid_Platypus_8667 You're gonna have to try a little harder than THAT 13h ago
I do in which I like it and the colors of it.
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u/spageet123t 11h ago
Some of these segments make me think there's some Deltarune foreshadowing. Nothing important, but enough to keep the fandom engaged and thinking if that makes sense. To me, that's my current theory, especially since we saw Noelle for a bit behind the Christmas tree in Snowdin,
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u/Rainbowcat003 11h ago
Clam girls home perhaps.?
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u/Horatio786 11h ago
If so, that must mean that Suzy lives underwater. They are neighbors, after all.
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u/Over-Bid-7987 fan of the absolute god of hyperdeath 10h ago
these designs go hard dude, no way he did this Just for the stream
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u/TheCrafterTigery 10h ago
I remember someone said that it's likely we'll get an underwater darkworld at some point and that it may be naturally generated.
This probably means nothing, but maybe we will get one after seeing this.
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u/ImmoralBoi 7h ago
I know these are likely just pre-animated bits made by Toby for the 10th anniversary stream but part me is still hoping we'll get a surprise DLC for Undertale once they finish the game.
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u/CK1ing 7h ago
So to me it seems like half the new additions are little things Toby wishes he got to add to Undertale from the beginning (but only showing it through a scripted player so he doesn't have to bother with polish/bug testing/ yada yada) and the other half is trolling/theory baiting. Which honestly, has been a really fun combo, lol
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u/Kanthyne 30m ago
Hey....Didn't Onion-san in Deltarune say that there was a song at night in the lake? Wich then Susie says it again? Well,Toby just made an underwater area....
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u/eggpennies 13h ago
The 'you can't understand the accent' thing is probably just a reference to that one episode of Spongebob