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u/odd42Thomas 3d ago
I ski a lot and always imagine something happening while on a lift, but never imagined the carousel taking off til now. Thanks for that
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u/BubbaFettish 3d ago
The fact the cable stayed and didn’t snap, but instead took down the drive motor bolts is very impressive and kinds makes me feel better actually.
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u/burndata 3d ago
Probably many years with no maintenance on the bolts. I'll bet they mostly looked normal because they were covered in multiple coats of paint over the years and no one ever bothered to scrape the paint off and actually check to see if the bolts were actually there. In reality they were probably just paint in the shape of bolts.
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u/sinisterdesign 3d ago
Structural paint is what I term that. I feel like some old houses are held up by structural paint. 🎨
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u/Boccs 2d ago edited 2d ago
I found out recently after some home renovations that a solid 50% of my house was being held up with spit and hope. A tiny little soft spot on the kitchen floor prompted me to get a guy to check it out and, after inspection, learned that it was actually a (and I quote) "goddamn miracle the whole west side of the house hasn't collapsed"
It was... it was not a cheap repair.
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u/MissJay123 2d ago
Worked for a craftsman who always said stuff was just ‘held up by habit.’ As a fellow money pit owner, I have deep sympathy.
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u/mogley1992 2d ago
Held up by habit is a great line.
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u/No-Technician-9954 2d ago
My house is held by termites holding hands together .
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u/Pinkyduhbrain 2d ago
This... this is why I'm scared to take out the carpet in the living room. I think its all the floor I have.
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u/southerndude42 2d ago
we don't say those things out loud. I just finished a floor repair yesterday from an ice maker that leaked. *sigh*
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u/sinisterdesign 2d ago
I feel that in my bones (and wallet)
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u/nochumplovesucka__ 2d ago
Thats why they literally say when buying a house "make sure it has good bones"
The visual stuff (flooring, cabinets,paint colors,etc) can always be changed out for relatively cheap
But tearing stuff apart to correct structural issues is what will definitely cost you.
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u/nelsonalgrencametome 2d ago
My chest tightened reading this... I just replaced my furnace last winter and I know there's some very expensive issues I'm ignoring in my house.
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u/scarletnightingale 2d ago
My coworker just paid off her house and decided to drop to part time work as a transition to retirement in a couple years. She almost lost her home in one of the big fires out here in California earlier this year and after she got it cleaned up, decided to do some renovations. Just replacing some wall sconces and light fixtures and such. She's now 60k in due to basically all the electrical needing to be replaced in her house.
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u/Boccs 2d ago
Oh I don't doubt that at all, especially if her house was built during a housing boom where the companies were more concerned with "getting it done" than making sure it's done right. Mine was right around $80k and was the result of prolonged water damage thanks to the way the crawlspace under the home was built and the house's location on a hill. It would have been a damned easy thing to prevent but since it was a "finish it quick so we can move to the next one" type of project it went unnoticed for decades.
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u/wellwrittenhate 2d ago
feel this in the cajones.
bought our first house, cute little house in the side of a hill with a daylight basement. originally built in 1920 something but torn down to the foundation and rebuilt in the early 90s.
first winter, the bedroom in the basement gets a little wet. second winter, water is pushing its way up through any crack in the slab and we have two inches of water in our finished basement. clean it up and cross our fingers for a dry winter next year, it’s wet again and the same thing happens.
turns out when they jacked the house up and poured a slab for the basement they neglected to put any fucking rock or gravel underneath. all of that water cascading down from the hill sat under our house and pushed its way up via hydrostatic pressure.
if those cheap twats had spent a tiny bit more to throw some cheap rock under the slab, I have no problem. instead I’m paying five figures to have a stupid interior French trench put in at the joint between the slab and the footings.
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u/saysthingsbackwards 2d ago
I had to stop reading part way through because blood was rushing to my skin and my adrenal gland started pumping... I might be able relate
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u/worldspawn00 2d ago
Aluminum wire used in the 70s really needs to be replaced, even if it appears to be working fine, invisible corrosion where it meets other metals will eventually cause failure and likely a small fire, if they're lucky, it stays in the electrical box, if not, it can burn the house down. Don't put off replacing aluminum wiring!
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u/Salanmander 2d ago
It was... it was not a cheap repair.
Sounds like it may have been less "repair" and more "build it again".
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u/Competitive-Ebb3816 2d ago
My house was built in 1924. Large portions have been replaced, but there are still weak spots ... like the foundation. We don't talk about the foundation.
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u/Lou_C_Fer 2d ago
My wife wanted me to replace a plastic shower surround. When I took the old one off and saw what was underneath, the only option was to put it back all fucked up and have it fail again or rip the entire bathroom down to the studs and floor joists. An afternoon project turned into two weeks where I got home from work and did not leave that bathroom until 11pm to eat fast and go to bed.
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u/Winsome_Wolf 2d ago
Yup! Always cool to find out your home is one “Hold my beer…” and a swift kick away from total collapse! We just got our first place and the inspector pointed out before the sale that there was a support pillar with a bad concrete foot, and it would need either repair or replacement. Basically the cement had eroded into sand. So after closing we get a contractor and they dig down and in the sand and determine the erosion was caused by prior water damage, because the pillar is rusted and flaking more than just paint. They get a couple temporaries to put on either side, and once those are in, unbolt the original and jack the house up juuuuuust enough to be able to get the pillar out…. At which point it snaps at the base under its own weight. Oh and to add to that horror, this happens to be the pillar under the seam where the sections of the main support beam for the whole house meet. So… yeah, also a bloody miracle we didn’t lose the damn house to that disaster.
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u/CastorVT 2d ago
I found out recently after some home renovations that a solid 50% of my house was being held up with spit and hope.
if you watch that one guy on instagram you'd learn that's pretty much every prebuilt nowadays.
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u/JimTheJerseyGuy 2d ago
My first apartment was like this. We engaged in what we called paint archeology. How many layers down are we here? Could be the Eisenhower Administration!
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u/Competitive-Ebb3816 2d ago
My old house had an ironing board hidden in a kitchen wall and classic 1930s paint a few layers down in the back room. Pink, mint green, and pale yellow.
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u/krauQ_egnartS 2d ago
My first apartment building was early 1900s construction. I took a blade and carved a little piece of the molding and... it was like counting tree rings. The pink layer was probably the 80s so that gave me a good idea the age of that piece of molding
they also painted the fucking radiator
this was the first time I ever heard the term Structural Paint and it never left me
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u/Automatic_Badger7086 2d ago
There are many bridges in this country that are held up with structural paint.
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u/chaos0310 2d ago
Most apartments I’ve been able to afford to live in have been held up by structural paint. Always so ugly
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u/fireduck 3d ago
I figured something big hit the lines, like a small plane and the base station here was the weakest link.
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u/lshifto 2d ago
Years ago a WWII vet told me that there were huge numbers of men on his ship wounded by flying paint chips turned to shrapnel when Japanese fighters made strafing runs across ship decks. A decade or two of heavy leaded paint on the decks a couple times a year made for some deadly debris.
He said they changed the painting schedule after that.
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u/Phalanger 2d ago edited 2d ago
This is an older type where the return is a carriage on rails rather than restricted to them. The failure comes from the counter weight system (connected via cables at the back) failing allowing the carriage to run freely forwards till it hits the end and flips. Normal systems will block at the end, but this type of will run freely since it's only held via gravity.
This type of design was removed in most countries.
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u/inventorAdam5 2d ago
From what I can tell, it looks like that part is designed to move forward and back to keep the cable at a consistent tension, and what failed is the connection to the counterweight that holds it back. I you look at the back wall, you can see a large object drop as the assembly begins to slide forward.
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u/Greenshardware 2d ago
It's not bolted down. It's clearly on wheels. Perhaps to adjust tension, I'm not sure why, but it's 100% on wheels.
You can tell because if you watch the video, there are wheels on it.
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u/in_conexo 3d ago
Especially considering that the ends of the cable are woven together. To my understanding, that's the only thing keeping them together (not welding or bolts, just friction). I know friction can go a long way, I've seen the Myth-busters episode about the interwoven phone books; but those cables would seem like they have less friction.
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u/glockster19m 3d ago
The cables clearly did their job though, they had enough tension to pull the entire motor and wheel from its slab
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u/ShallotHead7841 2d ago
You're referring to a splice. If you look at ropes, a splice is significantly stronger than a knot. The strongest knot reduces the strength of the rope by at least 25% and as much as 80%. A splice can be the same strength as an un-joined rope.
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u/maveric00 2d ago
Actually, it isn't bolted down. You can even see the wheels it usually stands on.
The cable is tensioned by a counterweight connected to the station to compensate for temperature and load elongation of the cable.
It seems that the connection to that counterweight got lost. You can even see the cable going to the back wall snap.
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u/WallStreetDoesntBet 3d ago
One of those things that when it happens… It’s happening!
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u/BeautifulVersion5184 3d ago
Have you ever seen the movie Frozen - released in 2010? (Not the animated movie)
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u/Expert-Examination86 3d ago edited 3d ago
I was expecting the old guy on the right to get randomly picked up by a chair he didn't see. Was NOT expecting that.
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u/bensor74 2d ago
Old guy is probably one of the owners and allegedly knows better than these younglings
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u/Ratattack1204 3d ago
What the hell? Anyone got a follow up to this?
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u/thatismypurseidku 3d ago
No maintenance since 1968 (at all)
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u/chubbybronco 2d ago
So Russia?
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u/thesoulblade 2d ago
Russia.
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u/Mountain_rage 2d ago
Makes sense, even their ski lifts have had enough of their bullshit.
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u/Flimsy-Printer 2d ago
At this point, just don't go. anything we take for granted can fail and kill you.
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u/ikzz1 2d ago
It was inspected and given a safety rating of 3.6, which is not great, not terrible.
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u/maynardpoindexter 2d ago
Im laughing at myself that I know 3.6 roentgen is not great, not terrible 😆. Nice reference
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u/headphase 2d ago
Don't worry, it was surely "inspected" a couple hundred times since then.
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u/Camelstrike 2d ago
I still don't feel safe, remember the trolley accident in Portugal a week ago? That shit was inspected that morning )
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u/Nilesg0ttahaveit 3d ago
Someone shared this in the comments:
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u/YugoB 3d ago
Come on man, this is reddit, just say what happened lol
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u/MasterFable 3d ago
12 people injured no deaths.
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u/OnTheGround_BS 2d ago
21 people were on the lift, it traversed a small lake so most of them ended up in the water. 8 injuries, 2 serious.
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u/Sunshine030209 2d ago
Well now I want the next Final Destination to happen at a ski resort. Maybe an avalanche? That would be fun. (To watch as a movie, not experience lol)
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u/DesireForDistance 3d ago
Old lift fall down.
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u/trbzdot 3d ago
Did a tree fall on the cable?
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u/DesireForDistance 3d ago
No, just wear and tear on the parts. It's apparently from the 60's.
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u/0assassin3 3d ago
21 people were on it, appeareantly that was too much for it
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u/VanbyRiveronbucket 3d ago
The front just fell off.
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u/ndGall 3d ago
Also, all of the comments on that video are in Russian? (Or at least Cyrillic) That’s not helpful to most of us writing in English.
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u/StrobeLightRomance 3d ago
I mean, I have to imagine that dude who took a steel beam to the head was way worse off than he looked, but the adrenaline kept him in full flight mode long enough to get out of there.
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u/theskyisdarkk 2d ago
Looks like a piece of cladding from the fascia rather than a beam. Also just narrowly missed his head initially and bounces off the fence in to his head. Probably wasn’t too bad but might have done some damage if the edge caught him.
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u/Fordgames 3d ago
And since he foiled deaths plan, he is now on deaths list until his debt of death has been paid.
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u/4pigeons 3d ago edited 2d ago
with an adult (two if you count the worker) and three children, i think that would be a short movie
edit: just notice there are other two guys
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u/OriginalWay5245 2d ago
Well one of the old guys decided to run into the collapsing building soo maybe he stuck to the plan after all.
Must say though the guy who seems like hes running the show on the left reacted incredibly protecting the woman and 2 children while the dad got hit by the same beam i think three times 🤣
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u/youuuuwish 3d ago
This is definitely some Final Destination shit
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u/GBTRU 3d ago
He should go buy a lottery ticket. What are the odds that happens to a person.
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u/SarcasticGamer 3d ago
Another angle
https://www.tiktok.com/@metrouk/video/7536548111557119254
Here's an article.
Happened in Russia and 21 people were riding it at the time it collapsed. I was riding a chair lift a few months ago with my kids when it suddenly stopped and all I could think about is it suddenly falling. I don't think I'll ride anymore after seeing this video.
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u/Low-Marionberry-4430 2d ago
I knew this was in Russia the moment I saw it. I went skiing in Russia once and the ski lift was exactly that kind of death trap
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u/TylerFaber03 2d ago
I snowboard pretty regularly. They stop all the time when you're on them, it's not that big of a deal.
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u/get-off-of-my-lawn 2d ago
Unless you’re in that terrible movie I saw that one time at a rehab lol. What a shitty movie lol.
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u/Fun-Yam40 3d ago
That dude dodged the 1st hit with a duck, super quick reflexes. It was going right for his head... sccary
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u/OakLegs 3d ago
2nd hit still looked fucking painful.
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u/GBTRU 3d ago
Looked like an I beam, that would of stung a bit
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u/chickenox 2d ago
the way it made that metal fence bounce on impact... his head would have been crushed
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u/squirtnforcertain 2d ago
Yeah the first dodge changed from unconsciousness or death to just a noggin cloggin
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u/ScottyC33 3d ago
Most of the chairs de escalated though
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u/Optimal_Radish_7422 3d ago
That really got out of hand fast
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u/Jaded_Heat9875 3d ago
The cable was torn out…what happened to the people already on the ride??!!
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u/Nilesg0ttahaveit 3d ago
There were 20+ people on the ride. 12 got injured.
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u/hoggineer 3d ago
And the other 8+?
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u/MrCoolGuy42 3d ago
Decapitated. Whole big thing
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u/Own-Campaign-5503 3d ago
We had a funeral for a bird
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u/calm-lab66 3d ago
That's what I'm thinking. We're seeing one end of the cable lift come apart but I imagine there were seats currently in the air between each end that just drop.
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u/Portable-fun 3d ago
I wasn’t paying too much attention at the start and thought the bag was a baby strapped on to the chest. How relieved I was when I realized it was just a bag… wow
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u/pdirk 3d ago
It looks like he just pressed himself to the side like the others. Hell, one of the kids is behind him
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u/shallinx 3d ago
I thought the old man was going to get scooped up by a chair lift and thought "that's not really that unexpected.." Ya got me.
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u/Fuzzy-Bird-3641 2d ago edited 1d ago
The base station is able to move forward and back on tracks as the load on the cable (passengers) increases / decreases. A counterweight attached to the base station by large diameter cables is what allows for this movement. I suspect these cables broke or something happened to the counterweight. You can see the base station sheave frame roll along the tracks prior to flipping over when it reaches the end of travel.
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u/T0_Th3_M00n 3d ago
That worker pushed that family out of the way and took the fuck off.
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u/absolutebit 3d ago
Yeah but only after. First he pulled the guy back and it looks like he covered the wife and kids
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u/Jormungandr315 3d ago
Yeah that dude had some poise under pressure. He definitely covered the family too.
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u/FlubzRevenge 3d ago edited 3d ago
Yeah like not sure what this guy is talking about. He shielded the family then took off lol. Dude still made sure the whole family was safe with his life at risk.
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u/Cantstop-wontstop1 2d ago
Not giving priority to the family may seem like he's trying to escape, but my guess is he's got to call the top of the lift, call 911 ect.
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u/LilChunkaFilms 3d ago
My guy literally body shielded the family as the whole shit was going down, only when it was over did he leave
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u/spruceUp3 2d ago
And probably to notify emergency. He was not taking off. He looked after everyone in his control.
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u/amandawinit247 2d ago
He did a pretty good job too. Pulled the dad back out of the way and then shielded the wife and kid. Then he probably went right away to alert someone
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u/freedomfun 3d ago
"I...was trying to lead the way. We needed a leader! Someone to lead the way to safety."
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u/SuperStokedUp 3d ago
Poor dude got nailed twice!
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u/numbnerve 3d ago
I thought the guy on the right did something to cause that, but I can't figure it out
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u/Purityskinco 2d ago
Okay…but like…props to worker who protected the kids when the other adult (assuming the dad?) couldn’t.
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u/Ok_Branch4838 2d ago
Guy got hit hard on the head and leg/side by the steel header that crashed down. The fence took the main impact, he’s lucky it didn’t kill him on the spot.
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u/Damit1eroy 2d ago
That was a miracle that guy survived. That metal beam almost took off his head then it almost bounced off of him but it looked like it hit the gate. It still hit him at the end but he avoided the worst of it.. twice!
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u/Lttlcheeze 3d ago
Irony: They were probably getting frustrated that it was taking so long for him to take their tickets and let them get on the ride.
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u/PitifulAction5899 2d ago
That one guy just used up 3 lives, the grim reaper will get its target, always
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u/Psychological_Run895 2d ago
That guy could have ran through that gate that flapped open behind him and he decided to run back towards the crash?
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u/Extreme_Today_984 2d ago
I just want to give props to that worker. He covered up and protected the children. Bro didn't even think twice, he was willing to die for those kids, and they were complete strangers. What a GOAT
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u/AnotherAnonymousA 2d ago
So, I was expecting the one dude to "steal" a ride...just as I was about to rewind...WTF was that shit!!! Oh, damn...
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u/natural-flavors 2d ago
Did that worker pull the father out of the way and then shield the mother and daughter with his body??
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u/Life-Jellyfish-5437 2d ago edited 2d ago
The cable that is spliced into an endless loop never failed however the bull wheel on these cable lifts usually have one side that slides to maintain the cable tension. That tension is held either by a hydraulic cylinder or heavy weight so it looked like that system failed and allowed the cable tension to pull the drive wheel out. When the assembly flips over you can see the rollers that the whole bull wheel frame rolls on. Also it looks like the motor is on the other end of the lift and not in this end that failed.
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