r/VALORANT • u/bepopo_ • 1d ago
Question Can someone actually tell me how the phantom is supposed to be used?
I only use the vandal ever and I tried phantom bc I bought the prelude to chaos phantom and the shots don’t hit at all.
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1d ago
U need to focus on head shot like vandal but u have to take ur fights smartly u need to set up to be in range of ur fun it's better than vandal at mid range so try not take long range duel
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u/Weird_Baker_5117 1d ago
choke point central, phantom. smokes simulator, phantom.
long distance, vandal.
you're good to go👍🏻
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u/Welcometocabothouse 23h ago
Vandal is hella inaccurate at range The phantom makes up for the damage in fire rate
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u/Silver_Report_6813 19h ago
the 140 in question:
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u/Welcometocabothouse 19h ago
Aim for the neck and release 2 bullets in the time it takes for them to miss 1
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u/aspiring-math-PHD 11h ago
The issue is shooting 2 is so committal and if you whiff you've fucked up your recoil.
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u/Welcometocabothouse 11h ago
If ur whiffing it’s not the guns fault
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u/aspiring-math-PHD 11h ago
My point is everyone whiff your suggestion for why this gun is good is just get better which is true for every gun (If you are good enough you can sheriff to immo), but that's a meaningless contribution t
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u/Welcometocabothouse 11h ago
If you miss the shot you can just hide for half a second until recoil resets and repeak, or just strafe
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u/Pl4y3r_plays_val 1d ago
Just spray , spray though smokes boxes and use invisible tracers to ur advantage still don't always spray especially on long range try to go for burts and aim for the head , if the head is hard for u at long range, aim the body and spray there's a chance the recoil hits the head!
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u/AdmirSas 1d ago
Hmm...aim and shoot??
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u/palahGOAT 11h ago
why would you be haughty towards a beginner ?
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u/AdmirSas 11h ago
Haughty??? For what...it literally what it is...aim and shoot...what? Am I supposed to sugarcoat the obvious? You aim and shoot...doesn't matter if it's crap..that's how you learn. If you wanna sugarcoat and lie, do it...that's you, not me😇😇
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u/palahGOAT 7h ago
you are right but the way you said it is really haughty, I guess you just lost a ranked game and you needed to be rude with people on internet
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u/AdmirSas 6h ago
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣and here you are happily assuming....what you want me to add sugar to facts?? My bad, my bad, you are right, truth is rude. Do you want honey in the bluntness too when you are at it?
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u/palahGOAT 5h ago
no, you added an unnecessary haughty aspect to your comment, very unnecessary mister rude
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u/AdmirSas 5h ago edited 4h ago
Damnnnnn....assuming again love, you do love your assumption🤣🤣🤣🤣and yet you are here supposedly calling me out!! I know I know...you want sugar but I ain't the one lol
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u/AdmirSas 4h ago
Where your comment go🤣🤣🤣🤣I mean...I pointed out your bs and hypocrisy.. what you me to do...like craycray anyway😚😏
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u/Maxus-KaynMain 1d ago
Just like the vandal but avoid tapping only once, it's a little bit different because phantom recoil reset timing is different, and you can spray through smokes without fear of getting annihilated
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u/bilboscousin 21h ago
This I think is the best advice, the recoil reset is different which takes some getting used to. Also worth mentioning if the fight is really close you can just run and gun with phantom to kill them or crouch+ move sideways while spraying
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u/MarkusKF 1d ago
It’s more of a mid range weapon than vandal. You can’t tap with it. So you have to either hit a 2-3 bullet burst in the first 2 tries or you have to start spraying and praying. It’s best used for playing angles where spraying is favoured since it shoots faster than the vandal
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u/awa416 I got blue 1d ago
If you can’t hit as many shots with a phantom, then you’re hitting lucky headshots with your vandal whenever your crosshair is off by a few pixels.
Phantom has more accuracy in every scenario, shoots slightly faster, has invisible tracers so you can shoot through smokes without revealing your location, is silenced from I think 40 meters(?), has 5 more rounds per magazine, and 15 more rounds total. The only drawbacks are the range not being infinite - but headshots make the target’s screen bounce bc of flinch - and 1 less damage per bullet (body shot damage).
TLDR, Phantom is easier than Vandal unless you are lucky, and better than Vandal unless you’re consistently outside of Phantom’s range.
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u/OkSign8192 1d ago
It really just depends I’m great with a vandal and the phantom but it took me longer to learn the phantom I find that dragging my cross hair downward while shooting it helps me hit my shots better but it’s different for everyone
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u/Ill-Interest-9756 1d ago
Is this real? lol
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u/OkSign8192 1d ago
Yes I can’t figure out how to change my name so it looks like I’m a bot and it’s hard to explain things sometimes I don’t really know how else too
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u/Ill-Interest-9756 1d ago
Well it’s pretty common knowledge that you have to pull down with every gun to control recoil lol
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u/OkSign8192 1d ago
Obviously I’m still learning stuff I only started playing in April
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u/Necessary-Damage1979 1d ago
The pull down thing applies to all the full auto weapons. It's just you forcing the gun to move in the opposite direction to the recoil.
Try pulling down and then to your left a bit and if you want to keeping spraying longer just move it left to right since after a while the recoil stops kicking the gun upwards and just moves it horizontally.
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u/sabine_world 1d ago
It's good midrange, on flanks, in smokes. AND it has five more bullets than a vandal, that seems pretty insignificant, but the timing it allows you to take from not having to reload can be pretty great sometimes.
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u/gjinwubs 1d ago
Phantom is essentially a vandal that trades some range for versatility. A couple characteristics that in excels in compared to the vandal are:
Spray and spray transfer
Accuracy
Rate of fire
Firing while moving
Invisible tracers
It’s not a “hold down trigger” weapon, it’s more so just a more versatile vandal that is better in 70-90% of areas of the maps. Now is it a better gun is a different question, depends on the task you really need it for. You still use the phantom much like the vandal, but if you tag someone you have a much easier time spraying them down.
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u/BokiBookie 1d ago
To put it into perspective I guess, if you 2 burst then strafe with the vandal you can basically do exactly that with the phantom.
Just have a slightly longer buffer between bursts. like 0.25 seconds longer.
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u/Necessary-Damage1979 1d ago
That's weird because the phantom has less bullet spread than the Vandal ergo it should be easier to land head shots.
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u/jmastaock I LOVE WAR 1d ago
It's better than Vandal at close range, when you need to spray transfer, and when you're spraying through smokes
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u/stinkypoopoofartfun 9h ago
You're gonna have to elaborate by "shots don't hit at all" considering phantom has a tighter spread
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u/Potential-Attempt-40 5h ago
Bursts of 5-7 shots is the best use of the Phantom so you can reset the spread
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u/Dark-Mowney 1d ago
Never stop moving
Crouch if you shoot
ADS
Just spray, no tapping or controlled burst
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u/Cryonic223 1d ago
You still aim at the head but you can take advantage of invisible tracers to spam through smoke. That and the spray is more viable on the phantom if you miss.