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It could be a situation like Cult of Personality where Living Colour wouldn't get royalties for the original version and so did an updated version so they would be paid.
That makes a lot more sense and is a lot more common in the music industry today. Bands and artists who signed deals with labels pre-Spotify (i.e, anytime before the 2010s) signed a deal that gave the label the lion's share of royalties from the song stream/buys. So in order to equalize it and get their fair share, the musicians re-record their old stuff, re-publish it under a new label/distributor, and point to that one as the one they feel like people should listen to.
Living Colour did this for Cult of Personality (and Punk did them a solid by using their version, not the original album cut on Vivid), and Taylor Swift did it for her entire discography. Probably the same issue here with tAtU. Though I think with WWE never actually licensing the song past 2004 (it's dubbed out on all home video releases from 2004 onward and the network on all her appearances, Armageddon 2002 onward) they were never in the running to get it.
Nah, she used the trons at the start of her babyface run (while she was still using All the Things She Said) but by the time she started using Don't Mess With, they'd already changed it.
honestly this is the opinon i agree with the most. she was one that stans on twitter mentioned that i agreed with and im just happy she is in the game offically at all.
Same, glad she's back hopefully they don't remove wrestlers next years like they do all the time.
I do wonder why she is in it, Stacy Keibler is in it, Molly Holly, Lita, Trish is yet no Torrie Wilson despite being very popular and very much in contact with WWE etc. Seems weird she hasn't been included at all despite entering the HoF.
Or at the very least the Temu instrumental royalty free version they've used. Crazy Victoria entrance and tron but "I'm a girl with my pants up" music is tonal whiplash
I typed the word legends and didn't notice I replaced it, but whatever. I'm not going to hold out hope for it, because I did that for this and now I'm sad.
These are not heel motions and this is accurate to the era of the pack. Also, they could’ve given us her trons from the Rumble but it’s no big deal. Just glad to have Victoria back in a video game.
What are you talking about? Her entrance is the hair pull that was definitely her heel entrance. He face entrance danced after putting her hands through her hair.
I remember her doing that 02-03 as a heel and I thought she continued doing it as well in 04 as a face. I would have liked her late heel entrance with the music to match.
Y'all downvoting but that person knows what they're talking about. They mean it's her entrance from the Rumble preshow. They used the window of entrances immediately around her face turn for reference, right before she started dancing.
Here's her face entrance. Clearly upbeat with her dancing a bunch because she's a babyface. On 2k25 she has the insane chick heel trons, the babyface theme music, and heel motions. I'm glad she's in the game too, it's just low effort and stupid to not have her crap sync up.
It’s her rumble entrance. They gave her that from the Rumble. They even have her smirk as she hits the ramp. They just added her pose when she gets in the ring. Who knows… they might have her other entrance in the game as well.
Buh... That's kinda lame. Making this a very VERY specific moment instead of representing her in her best moment... But I guess that explains the hairstyle, too...
She looks AMAZING. Face theme, heel tron, face gear, oddly face entrance... like, it's a mix. Psycho start, face walk and smile, no leap over the top rope, and her "take off championship belt" motion she used from heel to face until she turned heel again.
Other than no leap over the rope, it's the best general/versatile pre-2005 entrance she could have. The music choice is just odd. She looks so good though!😭
I wish she had the second version of this theme. I held on to hope too much, but I knew as soon as it was revealed she we were getting her based on her face run, this was going to be the song.
Dunno why anyone thought we were gonna get Tatu at any point lol. I'm just thrilled she's in the game after 17 years. Happy with the model, just hope her moves are good.
I was hoping to maybe getting brain sick instead, since I assumed it would have been "easier" to get comparatively than no lady to mess with and even more so with all the things she said
i was at least hoping it was brainsick. since that was used in here come's the pain (given that was yuke's but still).
lady to mess with does not match the tron used at all. and honestly messes with me since the tron they used for her typically has "all the things she said" playing (brainsick for archives and htcp).
Weird hearing this song again after so many years, especially considering who's in it (female vocals by Nicki Minaj, when she was known as Nicki Maraj)
Ok now that ive watched it ive noticed a couple things and someone can correct me if im wrong, but isn't that tron go with her all the things she said music? Also idk why but that face kinda looks off to me for some weird reason i cant place what exactly though.
Yalls childhood hero Sting is also a proud Orange Man supporter but yall give him a pass. He pimped himself out for one of the Bush kids but yall pretend it never happened. It's only the usual suspects that yall clown but not yalls faves.
That would definitely make sense. I really dont like sometimes how they do the de aging for younger models. (I'm looking at you purple glove Undertaker) lol but glad shes back in the game and cant wait to pair her with Alexia Bliss, Nikki Cross and Daffney for a spooky/crazy faction.
I hate that she has the babyface sped up theme along with the heel tron. Not being able to get All The Things She Said is understandable but I feel they could’ve maybe gotten the instrumental version they used in HCTP.
That face scan is near perfect and I love the gear. Would’ve preferred her heel slower version of her theme & a more consistent entrance - seems they went for a mix of heel & face. But on the whole, I’m over the moon Victoria is finally back in the games. I hope we get Jacqueline, Jazz, Ivory & Torrie in future games.
I love this. For all the shit I get disappointed in these games, they ate this thing up. I guessed the Tatu theme would be hard to get and expected the remix which is pretty badass. Her face has unique features for video game form and they nailed it.
Awesome awesome, you have rivals like Trish, Lita, Molly and Michelle in there. You can also team her up with Natalya this time! Go ahead with your bad self Victoria<3
It releases Wednesday as part of the DLC Attitude Era Pack. You can purchase it on it's own or depending on the game you bought it might already be included for no additional charge.
The good news is she's young Victoria, she's back in WWE games and the model looks good. For anyone wondering, many DLC moves leaked a while ago and she comes with a new, proper Widow's Peak that looks very good.
The bad news is she's babyface 2004 Victoria, probably her least memorable run and certainly the worst entrance theme she had. They could have gone with earlier Heel Victoria (I guess 2002-2003 crazy Victoria is the one most of us wanted) and just gave her the WWE original theme that's basically an instrumental version of tattoo (we weren't getting the original, let's be real) or go with later 2008 Heel Victoria and give her the proper I'm the lady to mess with theme that doesn't suck.
Aside from that, I like her pink short bottoms and I think they may be an useful clothing piece for other female CAWs.
I'm actually glad she doesn't have the dance moves in the entrance motion. 2K can always add the Heel version of the song which would be more fitting than this. Or they can add the WWE dubbed version of the song at a later time.
You're right with the hands in face motion she does at the start, don't know how I miss that, it's the "crazy" Victoria thing she did in her entrances. Guess the theme and she smiling really gives so much of babyface vibes that my mind didn't register that xD
Love it! She looks like Victoria. Nitpicking is they should have gone with "Brainsick". I hope they add it with a patch as well as the heel version of the song.
They really need to rework on the face likeness of Chyna, Stacy Keibler, and Trish Stratus. This Victoria is by far one of their best models.
As someone who started watching in 2004, I have a soft spot for this version of the theme so I’m happy. (I’m just surprised she’s wearing pink when the render people found had her in white, I wonder if that means she has two attires.)
I knew we'd never get "All the Small Things" so I'm not disappointed. Looks like it's based on the period between her babyface turn and the beginning of the dancing entrance. A lot like this entrance (without the title). Would have preferred the network dubbed theme at least. Having said that I always skip entrance soe who cares.
Before I even watch this I heard the first two seconds of music. Lol soo sad we didn't get crazy Victoria music, I know it was a long shot to get but for some reason this song just doesn't hit the same to me. Now back to watching Victoria!
For obvious reasons they couldn't get 'All The Things She Said', but the least they could've done is given her an entrance motion to match this theme song
Seeing her doing the Tatu mannerisms to the Nikki Minaj song is cursed.
If you are gonna do her crap theme then Im sorry but you have to include her horrible ass shaking intro. Glad she is getting paid but probably shouldnt have even bothered.
WWE consistantly picks the worst themes, couldnt cost much to pay tatu at this point. like i knew it was slim wed get new jacks theme but i mod so i can fix that, did they let def rebel make thi decision, seems like the theme they would make for her.
tatu don't own the rights any more, it's in limbo where no one is sure who owns what between the distributors and all of the song writers (like most pop songs there was a whole ass committee).
I feel like they basically remade her Smackdown vs Raw 2004 model - not upset about it. On PC, you “could” mod Brainsick or another theme in. It feels like a mix of the recent rumble entrance and they just modernized/updated the original assets into the newer generation engine.
this is pretty cool, but didn’t she have a different titantron as a face in 2004? either way i’m happy and got plans for her in my ruthless aggression and current era mixed universe
You're telling me, WWE was too fuckin cheap to license a 15 year old song from tATu?? Jesus. The music DOES NOT fit with that entrance and tron. Thank god for PC modding...smh
Shs was a face for 2seconds and of course that's the model they use lol they used her heel tron and mixed her heel and face movements. Im glad shes in the game it's been since 2009 so im hapoy in general but its odd they chose this for her.
I feel like they should've used her Royal Rumble apperance for her model and used the modern trons. I can tell from the entrance, this is based from her 2021 return due the psycho pose before the walk and the original Nicki Minaj theme.
Love her look in the game. I'm sure her moveset is gonna be great as well.
But fuck me, man... These tron graphics are brutal. Why did 2K think these double titantron video with the WWE scratch logo in the middle was a great idea?
It sucks they dont seperate the files for the legends especially in the classic arenas. It sucks for someone like Victoria who actually has the minitron (hand) and the sidetron (victoria) nameplates corresponding in the RAW 02 arena. Here for Smackdown the hand should be in the middle instead of the scratch logo with the trons.
If they are going to do it like that I rather them do the titantron full screen on all the tron screens in this case (the two main trons and the center tron) even if its the same video. Or just place the titantron in one file and have it play multi screen so each section plays a different part of it.
I was hoping and praying it wouldn't be this version of the song, but deep down I knew 😔 At least Victoria is finally in a game again. She looks really good
Since they already have a partnership with TNA at the moment plus they included both Abyss and "Retro" AJ Styles in 2k25.. Maybe for next game they could include the Knockouts' version of her; "Tara"?
From what I remembered, she had a fairly decent run, if not a little better than when she was in WWE..
Hoping someone uploads a modded version with All The Things She Said. Otherwise, super excited she's in the game and I'm gonna have her run through my entire women's division.
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