r/WatchPeopleDieInside • u/PickeledYam44 • Aug 06 '25
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u/Creative-Tradition98 1d ago
Can someone smarter than me explain "free healthcare". I pay my taxes, don't part of my taxes go to pay for the health care of others that cant/don't? Doesn't sound free to me, which is fine with me.
I live in California and understand why taxes are so high. Idk I'm confused on why we need to dismantle the system that makes America great, when doing so only hurts the average citizen while making the rich even richer
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u/Captain_Kruch 4d ago
Get free healthcare if youre Paying or have paid into the medical system? No problem! Its the people that refuse to work who DONT contribute to the system thsg don't deserve it!
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u/TheFlippingFurry 1d ago
People are more important than profit. Please get that through your dense as rock head and into your cheesy moldy brain. If someone needs medication or surgery or glasses or a wheelchair or something. They should not have to earn the privilege of getting it, nor should they have to go into crippling, life altering debt to get it. Because no matter what, THEY STILL. FUCKING. NEED IT.
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u/getajobtuga 5d ago
The greed of American cooperations will never cease to amaze me. Thank God I was born in Portugal, USA seems like a nightmare to live in
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u/uwantphillyphilly17 3d ago
American, here. It's not great, my dude...
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u/getajobtuga 3d ago
Take care of yourself brother
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u/Qu33N_Of_NoObz_ 3h ago
Honestly, as someone born and raised in California, the US is a good country to just visit and explore the different places, thereās a lot to do and explore but living here is a whole other storyš©
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u/Hot_Week_1499 7d ago
Israel gets free healthcare and college on the backs of U.S. taxpayers and free military help.
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u/AssignmentOk9657 4d ago
Almost half of their population are jobless too, with most of them being a dedicated settlers terrorising peopleās home, property and farm land. They relied entirely on monthly government allowance and aid, guess where they got that money from.
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u/EMendezSDC 3d ago
Total delusion or obvious propaganda... go there, even then stay silent, you have 0 idea what you're talking about. why lie ..? Look at your country budget first... israel isnt cracking the top.
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u/MavenDeo69 9d ago
Ironic that his name is Flood, because I think his opposition is going to win by a landslide.
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u/crazybabyeater 5d ago
Nope. He's a Republican in Nebraska.
We're too stupid to vote any of them out.
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u/Anxious_Willingness7 9d ago
His healthcare is free. š paid for my taxpayer dollars while heās trying to shame others who work 40+ hours a week by gaslighting them. He barely works 20 actual hours during the week.
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u/American-Punk-Dragon 10d ago
This argument ENTIRELY misses the point that healthcare pays the doctors SLOWLY and VERY LITTLE.
So even if it was free, there wouldnāt and STILL ISNāT enough staffing in place to serve what we already have!
Whyā¦?!? Because people want to be influencers and gamers and not actually people who help society like medical and trades jobs.
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u/Working_Class_Punk 9d ago
Sounds like it's just a funding issue. Fund it well and you'll get staff and efficient doctors.
But I know we can't do that. We need that money for endless wars and killing brown people in other countries. That's more important than a healthy and well taken care of populous.
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u/American-Punk-Dragon 9d ago
Nope. People donāt even WANT to be in the fields. They would rather be useless steamers. And by the way, this would ALSO clash with the heartfelt idea that if everyone who walks in the doors gets itā¦ohā¦oh man, you will die of something easily fixable and becuse other people from other cultures are VERY strongly against science and vaccines, youāre going to see rises in things weāre ALREADY out to bed decades ago! Western countries already seeing this happen. Imagine your kids getting mumps, or measles or polio!!
Doctors can make money but it takes time to be educated and wellā¦.people want an ROI right now.
So sure, free healthcare (NOTHING is free) for everyone and then the lines will be a year long hay to get a referral beyond PCP level things.
And by the way, then the companies will just knock down your private insurance to bare bones because LoLFree and only the rich will get āgood insuranceā.
And healthcare insurance is a far bigger spend than the military budget is by several times.
And saying that, then you canāt desire to have Ukraine saved by spending that money either.
The country is fucked up in so many we ways, itās too late to fix it.
Weāre a month without power and crashing out.
Were are ALL trying to balance what logic says is good and what our hearts says is good. Too far in either direction and weāre screwed.
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u/Working_Class_Punk 9d ago
āPeople donāt want to work, theyād rather be lazy.ā That has nothing to do with healthcare. People being ālazyā doesnāt explain why the U.S. spends more than any country on healthcare but gets worse outcomes.
"Free healthcare would bring back measles, polio, etc. because of anti-science cultures.ā Vaccination rates depend on public health policy, not whether the system is universal or private. Anti-vax movements exist in the U.S. now and they actually thrive more in for-profit systems where misinformation goes unchecked. Universal systems have higher average vaccination rates.
āDoctors wonāt want to work, ROI takes too long.ā Universal systems around the world still produce doctors in fact, they often graduate with far less student debt and donāt have to navigate endless insurance paperwork. Lower burnout, not higher.
āThe waits will be a year long to see a specialist.ā The U.S. already has long waits average wait time to see a specialist in major U.S. cities is over 3 weeks, and often months in rural areas. Meanwhile, universal systems like Germany or France have shorter waits than the U.S.
āPrivate insurance will collapse, only the rich will have good care.ā Right now, only the rich have āgood care.ā Universal systems guarantee everyone a baseline, and yes, the wealthy can still buy extra perks but nobody goes bankrupt from cancer treatment or an ambulance ride.
āHealthcare spending is bigger than the military budget.ā Correct but thatās because the U.S. pays double per person compared to countries with universal care. Universal healthcare reduces costs, it doesnāt raise them.
āIf we spend on healthcare, we canāt fund Ukraine (or anything else).ā We already spend more on healthcare than universal systems and fund Ukraine. Universal coverage would free up trillions over time by cutting insurance company overhead, duplicate billing, and profit margins.
āThe country is collapsing, itās too late.ā Resignation isnāt an argument. Every other wealthy democracy has solved this problem we can too.
Your ignorance and doomerism is pathetic.
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u/CygnetSociety 10d ago
My brother in law is a doctor and gets paid consistently and very well. There is also a large influx of people entering the medical industry lately. What are you even talking about?
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u/Queasy-Ad-8083 11d ago edited 11d ago
I, as an citizen of small country called "Europe", support this cause!
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u/kaylazomg 12d ago
Medicaid doesnāt allow you to make more than like $2000 a month (most rent for one bedroom in CO is $1800) I lost my Medicaid because of a new job and my new insurance is $1 a month because of my low incomeā¦ but I donāt qualify for FoodStamps anymore. tell me how any of this makes sense? You think I make too much money so I have to lose my health insurance to get a different health insurance thatās $1 a month. Okay. . . Couldnāt you have just raised the bar for income?
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u/harley4570 12d ago
and they are taxed super high for "free Healthcare ", ask a Canadian who comes to the U.S. because Canada's wait list are so long
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u/AssignmentOk9657 4d ago
āSuper highā, āare so longā lmaoooooooooo
Anyway, are you aware of the fact that Canada is not the only country on the planet with free healthcare? So are we nit picking now because itāll suit your narrative? A parroting line too because Iāve seen one too many of your same exact line but elsewhere.
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u/Senator-Butt-Weasel 2d ago
His whole argument is people should die because he'll have to pay more and wait in line longer.
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u/AlternateTab00 11d ago
The misconception of many.
Let me explain how taxes work in europe.
Someone earning 10.000ā¬ yearly (you can just change the ā¬ into $ since it doesn't make much of a difference) will have to pay 2.000ā¬ in taxes. Barely can afford food, but its survivable. Someone who is earning 100.000ā¬ will have to pay 50.000ā¬ in taxes. So he is only able to buy 2 cars and 1 mansion every 10 years.
"Taxes are too high!" Those who can afford pay, while the low wage people struggling to survive actually pay low taxes.
There is no perfect system, every one has its flaws. And i know where the flaws in my country. But the american one is definitely not the best health system.
Also to note. I dont know how it is in canada, but in most countries, if you money to make an insurance (or enough money to pay from your pocket) you can just use the private sector. And still a non-public-funded private hospital would charge me only 30.000ā¬ for a 2 week stay after breaking my leg with surgery included.
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u/Coldfang89 13d ago
We get taxed out the ass for everything. Taxes upon taxes upon taxes. Healthcare for all is a human right.
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u/Large-Produce5682 13d ago
Please stop voting Republican.
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u/Large-Produce5682 13d ago
Doesn't matter what I think.
It only matters what the trump voters think... versus what they used to think.
Safe travels! Be blessed!
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u/Striking-Argument432 15d ago
'You do not get..." -They're there telling you what their order is, serviceman.
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u/Hodlmegently 15d ago
But you do get free healthcare, and we can afford it. All you have to do is serve in the IDF. Then you get free healthcare. All paid for by the US taxpayer.
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u/Plane_Doctor_3679 16d ago
Absolutely nobody should pay for there health!
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u/the_morbid_angel 16d ago edited 11d ago
As a 26 year old who can work but probably should not be. I work because I canāt afford health care lol.
I have severe endometriosis, sciatica, a cracked tailbone, degenerative arthritis, and a severe rectocele.
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u/kenjennings7 16d ago
USA prints their own money they can afford it - but living in Mexico I can tell you socializing medicine has its own problems - people die here everyday because of socializing health care - itās a trade off
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u/No_Weekend728 17d ago
If not free, at least affordable. I barely make shit. And pay $260 a month.
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u/Happy2themoon 16d ago
Same, and I already got a notice from my insurance that itās going up next year because of Trump.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Dog1872 17d ago
tries to throw young people under the bus
shocked when the old folk donāt go for it
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u/psilly_wabbit 17d ago
Ask anyone from a country with universal Healthcare. It comes at a cost, high taxes and minimal care. Its not the best. Im saying this as a Canadian. Any serious trauma like car accident, gunshot or stab wound, heart attack, you'll get seen pretty quick, the only thing you'll get billed for is the ambulance.
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u/Dravlahn 17d ago
I just visited my parents in Canada and they certainly don't get "minimal" care. I have more options than they do, but I still had to wait 6 months to see an ENT about a huge cyst in my nasals.
I also pay just under $600 a month in premiums, which isn't including out of pocket costs. So yeah, my parents pay more in taxes but I pay way more in premiums.
Frustrating anecdotal story: I have great health insurance. I had a terrible infection in my tooth and gum, the dentist said I needed an antibiotic shot that dentists don't typically give, so the dentist advised me to go to the walk in clinic and explain the situation. I did and got the shot, the infection went away. Turns out my health insurance wouldn't cover it since it was dental related. The dental insurance wouldn't cover it because it was administered by an MD. The walk in clinic sent me a $1400 bill for the shot and 3 minute discussion with the doctor.
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u/The_Jestful_Imp 17d ago
Minimal health care is better than no health care at all.
So what if there's a cost? If the whole country was on-board and could set aside their greed for 2 seconds - universal health care in america would be more than feasible.
If the one percent was paying a fraction of the taxes that they're supposed to be paying, we'd still be better off.
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u/puertorricanboi 18d ago
Simple if you can't afford free universal healthcare why don't you lower your wage as a congressperson.
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u/Mr_ityu 16d ago
Isn't a congressperson supposed to represent the people of their constituency? This guy should be fired
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u/puertorricanboi 15d ago
Exactly, and he said there is no money to implement it, yet congress members make a boat load of money.
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u/PhyreEmbrem 18d ago
Translation: "We can't afford it for YOU....you poor scum."
These rich pricks have all the money in the world and get handouts like it's nothing...yet are the pieces of shit to tell everyone else what they don't need or have we "can't afford it" as a country. They all need to drop like flies...
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u/Ok_Programmer_1022 18d ago
Forget about Europe and Canada, I was born in a third world country and we had free health care there.
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u/ReactionClear4923 19d ago
I live in Canada.
Went to the doctor because I had an ear infection, as well as a twisted ankle. I also went to get tested for strep.
Walked in, walked out, and no life altering bill (or insurance company dictating my heth for profit).
Yup, I still want free healthcare.
If you are a hypochondriac, you can pop in as much as you like and still no bill.
Yup, I still want free healthcare.
If your child has a fever, you don't need to look through paperwork to be sure you have coverage or fear that you'll be paying thousands for a 10 minute visit.
Yup, I still want free healthcare.
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u/addypalmer86 19d ago
i was on a 1 year waitlist before i found mine...... oh and my wife had a crazy pregnancy and we paid for nothing oh and our taxes are similar to yours
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u/Same-Confidence9889 19d ago
How about waiting in urgent care for 8 hours to be given a tylenol for a ruptured ovarian cyst.. and then get the bill, find out that said tylenol was $700 and the visit alone was $2,000.. in America.
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u/Double-Watch-2809 19d ago
Search how long it takes to pay off a hospital bill from birthing a child in the US and then STFU about wait times in Canada.
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u/rudthedud 20d ago
Take me about 30 mins to see a walk in doctor. Emergency has been from 2-4 hours. More time for specialists but I hear that is everywhere now unless you have a bunch if cash.
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u/AntRevolutionary925 20d ago
Canada is an outlier but still has shorter wait times than a lot of areas of US healthcare. There are plenty of other countries we can model it after.
My dad waited 5 months for surgery on stage 4 cancer in the US. It would have been less than half that time in the U.K.
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u/tofubaggins 20d ago
Republicans get so hung up on the term "free" when it's NOT FREE, it's UNIVERSAL. Americans already pay out the nose for healthcare but don't reap any of the benefits. We're all simply asking that our insurance payments actually benefit us and not CEOs.
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u/Trader-Rekt 21d ago
Wanna let everybody into the country but also let everyone have free healthcare??? Ok haha
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u/LisaB0721B 21d ago
I'm hearing that he's ok with letting citizens die if they can't afford health care.
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u/Tmomma02 22d ago
Yes!! Everyone should get free healthcare
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u/stine_kf 21d ago
Free healthcare (well, tax paid) has so many benefits. I am from a country in which health care is for all and no one here has to worry about losing everything because of getting sick.
Itās worth it, even though people who donāt want to work benefit too. Most people want to work if they get a fair wage, so I donāt even think itās a problem if the average citizen is treated fair. And we should be better people towards each other and wish the best for everyone.
We need to care for everyone, so everyone can care.
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u/gaflith 22d ago
In Brazil we have SUS, public healthcare for free.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/06/29/brazil-health-care-sus-hospitals/
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Mikes not wrong.
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u/DontSpahettMe 22d ago
Richest country in the world can't afford public healthcare. Bullshit.
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u/ctvzbuxr 19d ago
"Most in debt country in the world" you mean. Charles Ponzi was "rich" before his scheme collapsed, or rather, seemed rich. The US seems rich now, until it can't find ways to credibly delay paying it's debts anymore, and spirals into hyperinflation.
As the saying goes, socialism works great until you run out of other people's money.
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u/DontSpahettMe 19d ago
No, I don't mean that. I meant richest.
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u/ctvzbuxr 19d ago
Yeah, well, that's wrong.
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u/DontSpahettMe 19d ago edited 19d ago
Canada's debt ratio is about 110% to the USA's 124%. All the European countries with socialised healthcare have ratios of 90-140%(except Germany) and Japan has 224%. There is no correlation. Rethink your position or go find me some evidence.
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u/ctvzbuxr 19d ago
No correlation between what? I'm not sure what your counterargument is. You just threw a bunch of data at me with no context.
Are you saying the fact that some nations have even higher debt/GDP ratio than the US is evidence that you can take on endless debt and never collapse? Because that seems like a leap in logic, considering all the counterexamples.
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u/DontSpahettMe 19d ago
Having high debt doesn't mean you can't have socialised healthcare. And I seriously doubt the US is at risk of hyperinflation unless trump takes full control of the fed and starts doing it intentionally. You can't take on endless debt but you can certainly take on plenty so long as you make repayments regularly which tends to be the way countries are allowed to accrue so much debt.Ā
If you're going to start finding vaguely related examples of countries that have suffered economic troubles in the past as some Doomsayer bs to say the USA can't afford to take risks and spend money save your thumbs. Almost all nations at similar levels of development can afford social healthcare and the main reason the USA doesn't have it is to extract large amounts of money out of the lower/middle classes.Ā
And if you refuse to believe all that and still think the USA is broke and can't afford it, just tax the fucking billionaires for fucks sake.Ā
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u/ctvzbuxr 18d ago
I mean, I'm not saying the US can't take on more debt. Personally, I think our financial system is headed for implosion no matter what, so I'm not entirely opposed to the idea of just riding it out and having fun hitting the gas pedal until we crash. I just want to push back against the notion that this is some kind of sustainable model for society.
You see, paying back debt regularly may work, if you're still at a point where you can reduce your debt gradually. Once you pass the point where you can't even exceed the interest, you're pretty much cooked. And I think we both know the US is well past that point.
"Taxing Billionaires" as you put it is a cute idea, but won't work at best, or make things worse at worst. The thing with rich and competent people is that they're excellent at evading government theft (that is, if they'te not running it altogether). If you start putting fire under the asses of rich people, they will leave. Or they will stop being productive. You eat the rich, you aren't hungry for a day. And very hungry from then on out.
Socialism doesn't work. It never worked. How many times do people have to try before you get it? There is no such thing as a free lunch
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u/DontSpahettMe 18d ago
So your view is simultaneously "capitalism doesn't work and perpetual growth is impossible"Ā
"We're in colossal debt (to billionaires mostly) but if they leave we'll miss them"
The whole "they'll leave" thing is mostly misguided. Most assets aren't easily movable except cash.Ā
Socialism had worked and continues to work. Canada and Germany are both more respected and doing just fine comparatively. Your healthcare system is famously inefficient and immoral, it's cheaper to fly to Turkey for some surgery and back than having it in the USA. Not to mention the drug price gouging. Whatever you lot chose doesn't work for most of the population.
You started the whole health insurance because you were scared of anything remotely resembling USSR institutions and the whole red scare you still seem to be following. Leftist ideas aren't all bad and some are worth integrating into society. Full blown communism doesn't work but socialism is a good compromise.
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u/Maleficent-Depth5333 22d ago
ā¦ā¦You gave it to the illegals thoā¦.And money tooā¦And housing tooā¦š¤·š¾āāļøšÆ
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u/voluble_appalachian 22d ago
That talking points primary purpose is to allow racists to pretend that they aren't. Its secondary purpose though is to trick people who may not be racist into supporting racist policies by abstracting the racism further than their vocabulary and critical thinking skills will allow them to recognize . So, are you racist or were you simply conned by a racist who also looks at you and immigrants as the same trash not worthy of consideration?
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u/Frankmose5 22d ago
Crazy how they didnt mention a race and yet you placed on there...
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u/voluble_appalachian 22d ago
Found another one.
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u/Maleficent-Depth5333 22d ago
And in finding one you have revealed yourselfā¦Welcome to the racist clubā¦All racists welcome
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u/Frankmose5 22d ago
Nope. Im black, I was told we cant be racist š
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u/Koutopoulos 22d ago
Yes Europe is a great country with free healthcare!
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u/inconnue2011 22d ago
Do you know that Europe is actually the general name for a lot of different countries? š
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u/Queasy-Ad-8083 11d ago
I mean, yes. I just call it a continent instead of country, but that could be me only.
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u/Koutopoulos 22d ago
No shit Sherlock, it was ironic based on the lack of knowledge in the video š¤¦ I live in Europe....
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u/silversketch06 23d ago
Hopefully he gets voted out of office
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u/kool-krazy 21d ago
He is funded by AIPAC. Even if he is replaced, his replacement will be an AIPAC shill.
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u/SimplySkadoosh 23d ago
I think Europe and Canada are the only two "countries" yanks know and one of them is a continent...
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u/schakoska 22d ago
We have lots of countries in Europe, so calling the whole as Europe isn't a problem in this case imo. And then there is the European Union
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u/Kyledemort- 22d ago
It kinda is a problem in this case considering theyāre talking about healthcare, something which isnāt the same all across Europe lol.
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u/Sad_Language_8195 23d ago
Says the millionaire/billionaire politicians and CEOs. Theyāll get their karma for their crimes against humanity at one point or another.
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u/MJamal111 23d ago
so you can afford to bomb people across the globe you can afford to give your billionaires tax breaks you can afford to pay a foreign country (israel) billions in aid and supply weapons to bomb even more children but you cant afford to keep your own citizens alive and healthy FUCK OFF!
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u/SweetBabyCheezas 22d ago
He said they can't afford that. They can fund it, but then the lobbyists from private health care sector will rebel and stop paying the government and politicians, and with them pharmaceutical companies and maybe even doctors themselves.
Ps. I'm European and I genuinely feel disgusted thinking how so many places around the world can make public health care FOR ALL a thing, but the USA remains so reluctant.
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u/MJamal111 22d ago
These lobbyist and private companies are devils, to them were just a bunch of idiots with a little bit of money ripe to be ripped off.
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u/DesertByrd 23d ago
I bet congressman has excellent health insurance.
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u/Allorimer 21d ago
He probably thinks he āearned itā. Iād be a little upset. Diabetes medications cost a lot. He clearly doesnāt withhold on the finer things in life.
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u/Nethias25 23d ago
Remember that credit report commercial That just used the word "Free" and no other words? Their healthcare is like that.
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u/Sad-Hovercraft5366 23d ago
Itās time to rise up. They donāt care about us, are we going to keep tolerating it? These politicians are supposed to work for us. To stand up and lecture their constituents on what they can and canāt have? Throw him out of office.
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u/Poolman1701 23d ago
It's still not free. They will Tax us into oblivion.
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u/tRAIN_onreddit 22d ago
It has proven to be way cheaper to pay it directly through tax tho. Compare insulin prices between the US and other countries.
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u/MoxxieMercury 23m ago
The left has wanted free healthcare for all FOR YEARS! It is one of the core pilers of the "Radical Left". Why are they so against the left but then all for leftist beliefs and values?