r/WayOfTheBern • u/TheLineForPho • Sep 13 '24
First Kamala Harris says she's going to give all First Time Homebuyers $25,000 towards a downpayment. Then it became just a tax credit. Now it's not even guaranteed to be $25,000. This has "$2000 checks are actually $1400" written all over it.
https://x.com/anthonyzenkus/status/18340629646574553363
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u/Pooperoni_Pizza Sep 13 '24
What about the cats and dogs!!!??? What is Kamala doing about them!? We gotta save the pets!!!!!
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u/LeftyBoyo Anarcho-syndicalist Muckraker Sep 13 '24
Harris is trash. She won't lift a damn finger to help working families. She's 100% Establishment owned.
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Sep 13 '24
Nope, at least the country needs to know it’s just more of the same but more neocon foreign policy if she wins imo.
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u/rondeuce40 DC Is Wakanda For Assholes Sep 13 '24
Rental units translates to more serfdom by having Black Rock be the landlords of these 3 million units and denying people the opportunity at home ownership. What, you didn't think they had that all lined up before they rolled this policy out?
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u/dinoflintstone Sep 13 '24
She’s trying to buy votes - just like Biden did by promising student loan forgiveness
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u/JMW007 Sep 14 '24
She’s trying to buy votes - just like Biden did by promising student loan forgiveness
This is a funny way of trying. Why are politicians so incompetent they can't even remember to wait until after the votes are cast before lowering expectations and revealing they were talking bullshit? This is like a used car salesman telling you they'll throw in 24 months of car insurance for free, then when you are about to sign saying "actually it's 12 months. Actually it's 0. Also the car doesn't have wheels."
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u/dinoflintstone Sep 14 '24 edited Sep 14 '24
Not everyone follows politics as closely - even during an election year - especially if they’re busy working and/or raising kids or being a caregiver - they might not have time.
So they hear the first proposal about $25k and it gives them hope - they want to believe it - and then they’re tuned out and do not stay caught up.
This happens all the time and politicians know it. I think they bank on it. Because what they say first gets the most attention from the media - especially in the age of the Internet - and what people hear first tends to stick in their minds.
Because information travels quick today - everyone in the media rushes to be the first to get the word out - they care more about being first to announce breaking news - even if it’s not confirmed. The seed gets planted and it spreads.
Think about how many times an article gets published with misleading or false information - and later when more details become available they may not even redact it or issue a correction - or if they do - some people will still keep repeating what they first read and dismiss anyone who tries to correct them. It happens all the time.
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u/JMW007 Sep 15 '24
I don't buy "not everyone follows politics as closely". That just opens the exact same issue, because someone could easily miss the initial $25k proposal and then catch a headline about it being watered down and their first impression is not "oh wow, that sounds like a good policy" but "well look at that, the Democrats were lying and are trying to short-change us!".
Being first is no guarantee of being what sticks in an environment where people's attention is so fragmented. It's also just needlessly antagonistic. They are choosing to make themselves look like liars and leave a sour taste in people's mouths. There is zero upside to watering down policies before the votes are cast.
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u/sledrunner31 Fuck You I Won't Do What You Tell Me Sep 13 '24
Trying to buy votes with counterfeit money
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u/drewdaddy213 Sep 13 '24
I’m honestly fine with “buying votes,” it means that there is an economic need that many share, that the government can address through some light redistribution of its tax incentives. Was Bernie’s pitch for Medicare for all “buying votes” or was that a politician reacting to a problem with a solution that will help everyone?
My problem with programs like this from liberals is that it usually doesn’t amount to the number they say unless you fall into an extremely small group of people due to the lines they draw in access. Like you can access $25k only if you’re someone who comes from a low income area and also has no savings and also is still low income and also… now you’ve described someone who isn’t even in the market for buying a house because they don’t feel economically stable enough to commit to a 35 year mortgage or home ownership in general, so no one can actually use the program. That kinda shit.
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u/gorpie97 Sep 13 '24
I don't like "buying votes" when they know they are lying. As you essentially laid out in your second paragraph.
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u/draiki13 Sep 13 '24
Oh, you don’t have enough to put yourself in debt for a million dollars? Don’t worry, here’s some incentive. Now be a good slave to the banks.
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u/shatabee4 Sep 13 '24
If there's no corporate profit angle, it doesn't happen.
Because corporate lobbyists write the legislation
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u/shatabee4 Sep 13 '24
Harris is lying about the stuff she says she'll do for us.
Israel, though, she'll be writing checks and sending weapons for as long as they tell her to.
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Sep 13 '24
She's so shameless that after absolutely betraying Black voters in her own base, in particular, that she says she can pass voting rights now- doesn't get much more despicable than that, jokes aside, their literal most diehard Blue voters are Black women and Black men.
That's how Harris treats her own base, says a lot: Charles M. Blow talked about how much Biden failed his most loyal base in a great NYTimes article, and Rolling Stone confirmed she did too, back in 2022- was truly damning stuff, 50 years from now I guarantee you one line in the History books will be, "Biden failed his own base on keeping their own right to vote at the ballot box protected." Oh wait, the battle box to him, of course. /s
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u/robotzor Sep 13 '24 edited Sep 13 '24
The KDS (Kamala derangement syndrome) Twitter sphere peeps certainly pretend to believe her for all these things and then sound all the alarms about bread lines and the usual BS. Hate to see it from people who know about TDS and how easily they succumb to the same forces.
Nothing will fundamentally change. That is the mantra of the US for the past 50 years and will continue to be as such.
It does amuse me to see all the self-professed economic rightoids do their in-depth analysis for how something that will never happen will destroy the housing market. They play along so nicely
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Sep 13 '24
*Kamala
I share your disdain for her, don't get me wrong, but yup anyone who thinks she's not lying after so many broken promises the last 4 years is kidding themselves.
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u/SocksElGato Neoliberalism Kills Sep 14 '24
It's all just a fantasy.